Amarnath Yatra controversy

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People in Kashmir Valley are protesting against the handover of land to Amarnath Shrine board which board intends to use for buliding facilities for yatries, currently they have to live in would you believe tents. The Hurriyat leaders are fanning the flames and political parties are not helping the cause too. Many people have died in the showdown, tourists have hegun running away from valley, some Amarnath yatris were beaten up too.

First they ethnically cleansed Kashmiri Pandits and now this. And where is our lameduck Prime Minister, I swear I have never seen a more inept PM than him. Even Deve Gowda was better.

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NEW DELHI: The storm in the Kashmir Valley over allocation of 100 acres of land to the Amarnath Shrine Board seems to have seen PDP and hardline separatists coming together to paint a plan to build temporary pre-fabricated shelters for pilgrims as a devious plot to alter the state's "demographics". ( Watch)

Violent protests in the Valley have seen police opening fire on protesters demanding that the land allotted to the Board be withdrawn.

Apart from Hurriyat factions fuelling protests, what has added to tensions is the role of PDP, which despite being a partner in the government, has joined the stir.

Given the populist sentiments sweeping the Valley, almost all political outfits have had to echo the militant line that giving land to the Board would pave the way for "Israel-type settlements" aimed at diluting the Muslim majority character of the state. Former governor Lt-Gen (retd) S K Sinha has been attacked for having authored the plan during his recently-concluded tenure.

Sources close to the general point out that the proposal was neither recent nor unique. And that though Gen Sinha had energetically backed the move, the intent was to improve facilities for pilgrims who have had to make to do with primitive amenities like trench toilets separated by gunny bags. The area in question at Baltal was the last base camp, 14 km from the shrine.

While PDP leaders Mufti Mohammed Sayeed and his daughter Mehbooba were claiming that they had been in the dark, the Board's request was before the government for three years since 2005. The proposal was examined by the law department and an empowered committee of the Supreme Court. Not just that, the current forest minister and his predecessor were both from the PDP.

The state cabinet had considered the proposal and forest minister Qazi Afzal and deputy CM Muzzaffar Beig did not raise any objections. Yet now the Mufti and Mehbooba have sought to put chief minister Ghulam Nabi Azad in the dock. Just as the "ignorance" plea was an afterthought, environmental arguments also appear to be belated attempts to build a case against the land transfer.

It is pointed out while a threat to a nearby wildlife sanctuary had been quoted, no such concerns were aired with regard to the construction of the "Mughal road" expected to connect Poonch and Rajouri sections with the Valley. "There are something like 10,000 trees that will be felled. The plot at Baltal in comparison is bare, with no trees. The agenda of those opposing the Amarnath case is obvious," the sources said.

The theory that setting up facilities for pilgrims was actually a covert attempt to settle non-Muslims stretches credulity. The area is hardly hospitable and it would be hard to persuade any population, however deprived, to settle in the area. The Board wanted to construct bunds, besides the shelters, to keep snow slides from damaging equipment.

The pre-fabricated shelters are also not a new proposal. In fact, the base camp has been in regular use for several years. Pilgrims have been put up there before the arduous last leg of the journey to the Amarnath cave, which is open to pilgrims two months of the year.

The well springs of the current agitation seem to lie in PDP's poll calculus and a certain unease among separatists and their jihadi backers over the success of initiatives like the recently-opened centre for South Asian studies and the reception accorded to Pakistani band Junoon despite a boycott call. With elections round the corner, PDP is looking to strum up sentiments in the Valley while putting Congress in a fix as withdrawing the land order could result in a backlash in Jammu.

It is apparent that Azad, who unlike the Mufti did not object to the transfer of land to the Board, is in a bind. Congress relies on its presence in Jammu while the fight in the Valley is largely between PDP and National Conference.

The PDP leadership, which has chaffed at having to hand over power to Congress in mid-term, is finding it expedient to use the Amarnath controversy for its ends.

Communalising the issue suits separatists and Pakistani agencies as this leads to an upsurge of an "us versus them" sentiment. A lack of a clearer appreciation of facts has clouded the debate. Transfer of forest land is not rare. This has been done for private telecom operators and railways.[/quote]
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It is distressing and alarming that communal tension is rising over the decision of the Jammu and Kashmir [Images] state government to transfer a little less than 40 hectares of land to the Sri Amarnathji Shrine Board to enable the latter to provide accommodation facilities to the thousands of Hindu pilgrims who visit the Amarnath shrine every summer. One cannot expect separatist and militant outfits in Jammu and Kashmir to make a sober and mature appraisal of the larger issues at stake. It is the attitude of mainstream political parties that is most disappointing and worrying.

The specious grounds for the the Peoples Democratic Party's objections are that the implementation of the decision of the state government would change the "eco-cultural character" of the state. What is the nature of this eco-cultural character of Jammu and Kashmir that is so fragile that it cannot survive the transfer of a small tract of land? Does the Kashmir valley have only a "Muslim" character? What happened to the much-touted Kashmiriyat? Or is that a politically correct platitude that has become an inconvenience to be ignored now that most of the Kashmiri Pandits have been hounded out of their homes in the Valley to Jammu, Delhi and elsewhere in India? Kashmiri politicians owe it to the rest of India to clarify their position on this issue.

To my mind, whether or not the land in question should be transferred to the SASB is only a technical question, not the heart of the issue. The more important thing is whether the state government feels that it has an obligation to improve the facilities that would make the pilgrimage of thousands of Hindu devotees more secure and more comfortable. For centuries pilgrims have been making the arduous trip to Amarnath cave without the benefit of any facilitation by the state. They relied on the local people for food, accommodation and other facilities. They lived in tents. But a caring State in independent India can and should do more.

It would be instructive to see what the Government of India does for Haj pilgrims visiting Mecca and Medina. The government is, in the words of External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee, "committed to ensure that the best possible arrangements are put in place for the comfort and well-being of Indian pilgrims to facilitate their sacred pilgrimage." The "welfare and well-being of Haj pilgrims," he says, "is always a matter of utmost concern to the government."

In keeping with these public policy statements, the Government of India makes elaborate arrangements for the welfare of Haj pilgrims and strives to improve the facilities provided to them every year. That is how it should be. The Government of India, and the ministry of external affairs in particular, deserves credit for providing perhaps the best arrangements that any government makes for their Haj pilgrims.

And what exactly does the Government of India do? For starters, it provides an airfare subsidy to about 100,000 pilgrims selected by the Haj Committee of India who go for Haj annually. Pilgrims pay only Rs 12,000 for their air travel. This figure has remained unchanged for at least a decade or more.

According to official figures, this subsidy was Rs 280 crores in 2006, or about Rs 28,000 per pilgrim. Today, with rising fuel prices, this figure would have gone up to Rs 350-400 crores. Although there is a 2006 Allahabad high court judgment ruling against this subsidy, it continues to be given because the government got the Supreme Court to pass a stay order.

Add to this the losses suffered by Air India, and the inconvenience to passengers because its planes are diverted to carry Haj pilgrims. For the convenience of pilgrims, charter flights are operated directly from 16 airports in India to Saudi Arabia. Returning pilgrims can transport 10 litres of holy Zam Zam water with them free of cost. At Delhi airport there is a separate Haj terminal. To improve the comfort of pilgrims, Air India has been advised to use wide-body jets in future for their Haj flights.

Great attention and care to Haj matters is given at the highest levels of government. The United Progressive Alliance government has successfully lobbied with the Saudi government to increase the quota for pilgrims from India, as a result of which the annual quota has increased by 38,000 over the last four years. It will go up by a further 3,000 or so this year because of the exertions of External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee during his visit to Saudi Arabia in April this year.

There is a separate Haj cell in the ministry of external affairs. The Haj Committee of India has its own premises in Mumbai. Similarly the State Haj Committees have their own premises in various other Indian cities. These facilities have been built on land provided by the state governments.

Very high priority is given to Haj matters in the mandate given by the government to both the Indian ambassador in Riyadh and the Indian consul general in Jeddah. Every government in Delhi has ensured that only Muslims are appointed to these posts, a practical decision intended to facilitate their travel to Mecca and Medina, where non-Muslims are not allowed. There is also a separate consul for Haj matters in the Indian consulate general in Jeddah.

Accommodation in Mecca and Medina is decided keeping in mind the need to provide maximum convenience and comfort to the pilgrims. Typically, all accommodation has lifts, telephones, running water, electricity and telephone at the minimum. There is total computerisation of pilgrim location and movement. During Haj, a large contingent of seasonal local staff, supervisors, data entry operators, as well as drivers and messengers (whose job is to round up and bring home safely elderly pilgrims who may have got lost) is appointed by the consulate general of India, Jeddah, during the Haj period.

For Haj 2007, a contingent of 115 doctors (including 63 specialists with post-graduate degrees) and 141 nurses and other para-medical staff, 3 coordinators, 46 assistant Haj officers, 165 Haj assistants and 186 Khadimul Hujjaj were sent from India on short-term deputation to Saudi Arabia. Special attention is given to medical facilities for the pilgrims.

Some of the facilities provided by the government are: arrangements for polio, meningitis and influenza vaccinations for pilgrims before departure; a 75-bed hospital and 12 branch offices-cum-dispensaries in Mecca; a 15-bed hospital and 6 branch offices-cum-dispensaries in Medina; three medical teams at Jeddah airport to provide medical care round the clock to Haj pilgrims; 17 ambulances in Mecca and Medina; supply of medicines, medical supplies and critical medical equipment from India. All this adds up to the total money spent by the government to facilitate a hassle-free Haj pilgrimage each year for tens of thousands of Muslims from India.

Perhaps our self-righteous and petty Kashmiri politicians in India's only Muslim-majority state should reflect over these facts and tell us whether they think it is at least their moral if not political obligation to be more caring and sensitive to Hindu pilgrims visiting Amarnath. If we can do so much for Indians going on a pilgrimage abroad, should we not be able to do as much if not better for pilgrims at home?

For a start, should not the Jammu and Kashmir government at least try to match the facilities given to pilgrims to Vaishno Devi shrine, which is located in the same state? And is it too much to expect our politicians and other "secular" leaders to be a bit more courageous and vocal in trying to knock some sense into the heads of shortsighted and irresponsible Kashmiri politicians?

As those in power, both in Delhi and Srinagar [Images], ponder over this matter, the litmus test has to be whether the decision finally taken adds to the comfort and convenience of the pilgrims.

Indian citizens and taxpayers deserve honest answers to the questions posed above.[/quote]

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Posted: 17 years ago
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May God Bless the Gods and devotees of India 😆
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Thank god secularism prevailed and poor Kashmiris were able to save their state from ecological disaster. How dare these communal Hindus even think that they can get Kashmiri land..akhir itni mushkil se Pandits ko bhagaya yahaan se, and why can't these yatris live in tents...rain/snowfall hota hai to hone do, itna bhi sahan nahi kar sakte kya..picnic thodi hai yeh.

Jai to secularism ki

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Not that I support any communal cause, and agree that it is a completely bogus politically charged agenda to deny Amarnath yatris facilities.

Although I am pleased for the forest. Too many natural reserves have been wasted for centuries to make trails, camps etc for various reason.

However, the way this was done is pretty disappointing and sad to see in a so called modern secular nation.
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Yeah natural reserves, forests

[quote]http://www.thestatesman.net/page.news.php?clid=2&theme=& amp;usrsess=1&id=210771

What Mughal Road didn't that shrine land-transfer plans did

Kavita Suri

JAMMU, June 29: Three years ago, when the then chief minister of Jammu and Kashmir Mufti Mohammed Sayeed decided to revive the centuries-old Mughal Road in the region, no one in Kashmir even uttered a single word on the massive destruction of environment in Pir Panjal mountain ranges of the Himalayas.

The revival of the old Mughal Road which was once used by the great Mughals to travel to Kashmir from Lahore and its subsequent reconstruction ordered by Mufti Sayeed not only witnessed destruction of over 10,000 trees and 26 wild life sanctuaries but also fragmented the habitat of the highly-endangered wild Markhor goat. India is estimated to have a total population of only 300-200 of this species, which is found in southwest Kashmir's Hirpora, Lachipora and Limber wildlife sanctuaries falling on Mughal Road.
Surprisingly, all the political parties remained silent over the issue of degradation of environment and destruction of the wild life sanctuaries due to the work on the Mughal Road.

But when the Jammu and Kashmir government recently decided to transfer 40 hectares of forest land at Baltal and Domail for the proposed camping sites located on the right side of the Sindh River for the purpose of constructing temporary shelters for the Amarnath pilgrims, the political parties in Kashmir have opposed it tooth and nail on the pretext of environment degradation.

The issue had deeply polarised the entire state. Politicians and other organisations in Jammu see it as a deliberate move to suppress Hindu identity and communalisation in the region. "When 10,000 trees were cut and the habitat of the wild Markhor destroyed for the reconstruction of the Mughal Road, no one said anything but when SASB wanted to set up temporary shelters for two months only, there was an uproar," Dr Nirmal Singh, member, national executive & former state president of the BJP said.

The PDP, National Conference and other parties were playing with fire by communalising the whole issue of the Amarnath Yatra and opposing the decision to transfer 800 kanals of land to SASB for creating facilities for pilgrims, he added. To prevent environmental destruction due to the work on the Mughal Road, a Kashmir-based NGO, Bio-diversity Conservation Trust had gone to Supreme Court arguing that construction work would affect the region's biodiversity and the movement of wild animals, especially the Markhor goat.

The Wild Markhor is on IUCN's Red List of highly endangered wild animals and is also named in Schedule 1 of the Wildlife Protection Act, 1972, and the Jammu Kashmir Wildlife Protection Act, 1978 (amended in 2002).

But in the case of SASB, the transfer of 800 kanals (40 hectares) of forest land was no issue at all. The Shri Amarnathji Shrine Board had assured the government that it would take all possible environmental safeguards in consultation with the State Pollution Control Board to ensure that no damage is caused to the ecology of the area. "The SASB camping sites did not involve any area of Thajwas Wild Life Sanctuary, which is located on the left side of River Sindh. The Shrine Board had to use prefabricated structures for the camping purpose of the pilgrims and would not have gone for construction of permanent structures," the Jammu and Kashmir chief minister Mr. Ghulam Nabi Azad had pointed out.

Raising a few pertinent questions, Dr Singh asked as to why no hue and cry was raised when the Mufti government transferred over 5,000 kanals of forest land to Baba Ghulam Shah Badshah University at Rajouri which also affected the environment badly. No one uttered a single word then.

"Besides, Sharda Peeth university project was scuttled whereas government gave free land to Baba Ghulam Shah Badshah University project and also free land was transferred to Islamic University at Awantipora in South Kashmir," adds Dr Agnishekhar, president, Panun Kashmir. People in Jammu believe that all this points to the complete cleansing of the last vestiges of Hindu presence in the valley.

"The protagonists of this vicious tirade dub the holy Amarnath Yatra as a cultural invasion of Kashmir affecting its ecology, cultural identity and demography. Whatever ecological damage Kashmir has suffered is as a result of illegal felling of trees by land mafia in connivance with corrupt administration over the years," said Dr Agnishekher adding the systematic reclamation of water bodies and continuous flow of waste materials into lakes like the famous Dal lake and uncontrolled construction activity has resulted in much more ecological damage than the Amarnath pilgrimage.

"An environmental impact assessment report to the Jammu and Kashmir Pollution Control Board regarding the Mughal Road clearly said that it would cut through 67 hectares of the Hirpora sanctuary disturbing the habitat of the Markhor. The cutting of many trees would have a cascading effect on the associated biota. Besides, traffic on the road may cause death of many animals that utilise verge habitats or try to cross the road. The presence of motor vehicles may introduce the potential for contamination of soil, air and water adjacent to the road and in the case of surface water, well beyond the immediate surroundings. Chronic contamination may become a problem for animal species, especially those at the top of the food chain.why there was no public outcry then," asks Dr Agnishekher.[/quote]

The only reason it is being opposed is because its for Hindus. If it were for Muslims, there would have been no protests. Enviroment to sirf ek bahaana hai. Does anyone think Kashmiri Pandits can even think about going back to their homes in J&K. Likes of Hurriyat should be thanking their stars that they are in India, agar China, Pakistan ya Russia mein hote to aise saaf hote ki pata bhi nahi chalta.

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Originally posted by: return_to_hades

Not that I support any communal cause, and agree that it is a completely bogus politically charged agenda to deny Amarnath yatris facilities.

Although I am pleased for the forest. Too many natural reserves have been wasted for centuries to make trails, camps etc for various reason.

However, the way this was done is pretty disappointing and sad to see in a so called modern secular nation.

^👏

Its all very sensitive political game.....😳

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: SolidSnake

Thank god secularism prevailed and poor Kashmiris were able to save their state from ecological disaster. How dare these communal Hindus even think that they can get Kashmiri land..akhir itni mushkil se Pandits ko bhagaya yahaan se, and why can't these yatris live in tents...rain/snowfall hota hai to hone do, itna bhi sahan nahi kar sakte kya..picnic thodi hai yeh.

Jai to secularism ki

Since light travels faster than sound,
people appear bright until you hear them speak. 😆
that is the case of our leaders

Coming from J&K I have seen the plight of pandits.
It is a shame being a Hindu nation we always seem to be on mercy of others.

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[quote]http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/jul/03land.htm

PDP works hand in glove with terrorists: Ex-governor
July 03, 2008 16:54 IST

Lt Gen (retd) S K Sinha, till recently Governor of Jammu and Kashmir [Images], on Thursday launched a frontal attack on the state's main political parties, especially PDP and its patron Mufti Mohammed Sayeed, accusing him of being "hand in glove" with separatists and fundamentalists.

At the centre of controversyover the land for Amarnath yatra which paralysed the valley in recent days, Sinha denounced PDP as "anti-national".

Sinha, who laid down office eight days ago, minced no words in admitting that his relation with Sayeed, who was the state's Chief Minister between 2002 to 2005, had been "very bad from the very beginning".

Disclosing that he was writing a book throwing light on his eventful tenure, Sinha said that Sayeed played the "most sinister role in reviving communalism in the valley" using the ploy of transfer of 100 acres of land in the valley which was

to be used to provide facility for Amarnath pilgrims.

Two of the PDP ministers in the cabinet -- Qazi Afzal (forest) and Muzzafar Hussain Beigh (law) -- were involved in the decision to direct this forest land at Baltal but Sayeed had used the issue to "promote his agenda", he said.

"He (Sayeed) wanted to take electoral advantage of the developing situation but I think it has rebounded on him. The people have found out the duplicity of his party," he said.

82-year-old Sinha, who earlier had an equally controversial term as Governor in Assam before coming to Jammu and Kashmir, also did not spare the Centre and charged the Congress high command with undermining its own party Chief Minister Ghulam [Images] Nabi Azad.

"The PDP has performed a very anti-national role in Kashmir and the pity is that PDP, for all these years, has been enjoying patronage of Delhi to the extent that Congress High Command has even undermined the position of its own party's Chief Minister Ghulam Nabi Azad," the former Governor said.

Sinha said that he had been informing the Centre about the activities of Sayeed from time to time but the "Centre goes ahead by keeping it with the government for long."

He denied that he had put any pressure on the state government for the transfer of land and said that the proposal was lying with it for last three years.

This was a propoganda that had been circulated by the anti-national and secessionists and as well as PDP.

"On the one hand sanctioning the diversion of forest land at Baltal through its two minister" and on the other they flare up the communal tensions, he said.

"They (PDP) were trying to hunt with the hound and run with the hare. Their duplicity stands exposed and their effigies have been burnt in the streets of Srinagar [Images] by Kashmir mobs," he said.

Sinha regretted the revocation of the order and termed it a "policy of appeasement and total surrender" followed by the state government and done with "total lack of grace".

"What was worse, to appease the fundamentalists...they (state) have virtually wound up the Amarnath Shrine Board," he said, adding this move has had very serious reactions in Jammu and elsewhere in the country.[/quote]

Some people might not be knowing, Mufti Mohd Sayeed is the same gentleman (Home Minister in VP Singh govt at that time) whose daughter Rubaiya Sayeed was kidnapped by Yasin Malik and his accomplices in 1989, 3 hardcore terrorists were released by the then VP Singh govt for her release...that was "THE" beginging of terrorism in J&K in which thousands have died till now.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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ahh mannn You don't understand how angry I am...

and that is primarily because I'm going to India and with this whole Indian bandh and all...it's making me completely paranoid!

But anyways...getting to the issue...

I don't understand what's wrong with assigning land to the Hindus...I mean if the Muslims, Chritians want they can go to Amarnath and take use of the land...why not...i mean clearly Amarnath needs that land...why not just hand it over....

What's pissing me off even more is the fact that the political parties are spreading this to all over India...

I mean why do we have to become so violent about this whole scenario...in democracies citizens have the right to protests..as long as they don't infringe on the rights of others...and all these protests are doing is infringing on the rights of others...having shops closed, ppl killed...

I swear I don't understand why the prime minister isn't doing anything...he's soo unresponsive to everything...and I've heard that he has very good degrees and he made an amazing finance minister...so how come he's struggling with inflation and now this?

I've basically started to detest religious extremists even more...the BJP, and Shiv Sena (gahhhhh I hate those ppl)...I mean the protestors may be right...but their mode of action is horrendous, and despicable...

And if their protests ruin my trip to India, I will be one infuriated Canadian!
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