Non Cooperation Against Ranveer Singh By FWICE - Page 13

Originally posted by: zara321

Excel also havent paid their own workers for months, why hasn't fwice spoken about that? The truth is that excel is broke, they need money so are trying to get it from ranveer

And fwice is doing is illegal, they cannot ban ranveer like this, i hope ranveer drags them to court!

😂

See this is what I mean ….the refusal to accept this as a dispute in negotiations between two parties and the desperation to make Farhan and excel seem like villains 😂

Digging up 4 year old dirt on excel to make them seem shady …..while beloved boy had the summons from the high court of karnataka literally last year for behaving like an idiot in public during the kantara issue for which he had to issue a public apology and what not ….and subhash k jha saying thy “allegedly” didn’t pay is ur source? 😂

Fun fact: subhash k jha also wrote that ranveer’s colleagues from Rocky aur rani thought he had “attention seeking disorder” where he dosent respect people’s personal space and gets too friendly with them by plonking himself on their laps….😎

Anyway

Why was ranveer willing to work with a broke company then not 1 year ago? Why do they have actors from several industries still on their payroll for their ott shows like mirzapur, Dabba cartel, made in heaven ….arjun, pankaj tripathi, sobita, jyotika, nimisha, vijay varma, sonakshi … some of these belong to other industries and aren’t even bollywood ….none of them thought to sue their ass for not paying them since they were broke from 4 years ago as per ur logic?😂

U think farhan is some broke af chindi producer who can’t afford 45 crores? …..He’s not asking ranveer money coz he can’t pay…he’s asking coz he’s not gonna cover up for losses he’s seemingly not responsible for ….

bringing this up as some magical discovery to assert integrity is next level

Originally posted by: pathaka

😂

See this is what I mean ….the refusal to accept this as a dispute in negotiations between two parties and the desperation to make Farhan and excel seem like villains 😂

Digging up 4 year old dirt on excel to make them seem shady …..while beloved boy had the summons from the high court of karnataka literally last year for behaving like an idiot in public during the kantara issue for which he had to issue a public apology and what not ….

Why was ranveer willing to work with a broke company then not 1 year ago? Why do they have actors from several industries still on their payroll for their ott shows like mirzapur, Dabba cartel, made in heaven ….arjun, pankaj tripathi, sobita, jyotika, nimisha, vijay varma, sonakshi … some of these belong to other industries and aren’t even bollywood ….none of them thought to sue their ass for not paying them since they were broke from 4 years ago as per ur logic?😂

U think farhan is some broke af chindi producer who can’t afford 45 crores? He’s not asking ranveer money coz he can’t pay…he’s asking coz he’s not gonna cover up for losses he’s seemingly not responsible for ….

bringing this up as some magical discovery to assert integrity is next level

Uh I'm not trying to make farhan or excel look like a villain, I'm simply stating what excels workers have said, they did not get paid, why didnt fwice speak up for them? Why didn't fwice address the unpaid workers of excel?

With Ranveer, its about farhan wanting to get him to pay damages which he contractually does not have to pay, if its not in a contract then legally ranveer does not have to pay it. Ranveer has agreed to pay for some damages, even though he doesn't have to, but farhan wants him to pay the full 45 crores

And what has the kantara thing got to with this? you are the one bringing up something completely unrelated here

If it was in the contract, then i would agree that ranveer has to pay it, but if it isn't then legally ranveer does not have to pay farhan. Ranveer is even willing to settle this in court and come to a reasonable negotiation, its farhan who wants the full 45 crores. FWICE has no legal jurisdiction in this case, thats why ranveer is not answerable to them

Originally posted by: zara321

Uh I'm not trying to make farhan or excel look like a villain, I'm simply stating what excels workers have said, they did not get paid, why didnt fwice speak up for them? Why didn't fwice address the unpaid workers of excel?

With Ranveer, its about farhan wanting to get him to pay damages which he contractually does not have to pay, if its not in a contract then legally ranveer does not have to pay it. Ranveer has agreed to pay for some damages, even though he doesn't have to, but farhan wants him to pay the full 45 crores

And what has the kantara thing got to with this? you are the one bringing up something completely unrelated here

If it was in the contract, then i would agree that ranveer has to pay it, but if it isn't then legally ranveer does not have to pay farhan

Excel workers didn’t say excel was broke…u inferred that.

The article says allegedly not paid….it does not confirm. You inferred excel are broke from an alleged statement and confidently posed it as the truth.

There is also more to that news story: excel responded with a statement about concerns raised by the union , asserted their payment policies and this matter hasn’t been taken further since : https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/entertainment/moolah-matters-424819/amp

And I brought in the ranveer kantara issue to demonstrate how these alleged legal cases in the news are not something extraordinary for big actors or production houses ….they get slapped all the time with these and some of them are for extremely silly reasons that aren’t even valid or legitimately proved

So bringing in to support the argument that excel is broke seems like confirmation bias …especially when it’s 4 years old and been addressed…if uve made up ur mind to pick a side without knowing the full story or the verdict, then anything and everything the other side does , looks bad and information is cherry picked to support the inferred narrative.

There could be many reasons to not consider a legal approach yet …usually film unions try to resolve it internally as an out of court settlement to avoid damaging publicity to either parties and avoid going through the court case rigmarole which may take an indefinite time to resolve and can also be exhausting…even in the above case, workers didn’t sue, the union tried to remediate between workers and excel and excel responded professionally…

Originally posted by: pathaka

Excel workers didn’t say excel was broke…u inferred that.

The article says allegedly not paid….it does not confirm. You inferred excel are broke from an alleged statement and confidently posed it as the truth.

There is also more to that news story: excel responded with a statement about concerns raised by the union , asserted their payment policies and this matter hasn’t been taken further since : https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/entertainment/moolah-matters-424819/amp

And I brought in the ranveer kantara issue to demonstrate how these alleged legal cases in the news are not something extraordinary for big actors or production houses ….they get slapped all the time with these and some of them are for extremely silly reasons that aren’t even valid or legitimately proved

So bringing in to support the argument that excel is broke seems like confirmation bias …especially when it’s 4 years old and been addressed

Okay, so Excel isnt broke by your analysis

That is still besides the point of this whole case. FWICE legally cannot ban Ranveer, Ranveer can take them to court for this ban. If there is no payment of damages in the contract, then by law ranveer doesnt have to pay for any damages. But ranveer has agreed to pay for some damages, but farhab is not budging from the 45 crores. Ranveer has even agreed to settle this in court, so why doesnt farhan just let the court decide

Originally posted by: zara321

Okay, so Excel isnt broke by your analysis

That is still besides the point of this whole case. FWICE legally cannot ban Ranveer, Ranveer can take them to court for this ban. If there is no payment of damages in the contract, then by law ranveer doesnt have to pay for any damages. But ranveer has agreed to pay for some damages, but farhab is not budging from the 45 crores. Ranveer has even agreed to settle this in court, so why doesnt farhan just let the court decide

By all means he’s free to take them to court if it is indeed illegal and he’s not legally obligated in anyway to pay charges / didn’t operate in bad faith…no one’s stopping him

No one’s saying he can’t dispute this

I’m saying why are we assuming excel is wrong here? From where I stand, there is equal possibility that ranveer operated in bad faith too…court can decide like u said.

Out of court settlement for civil disputes is standard practice for a lot of film unions to avoid the complexities of the legal system that can have damaging reputational consequences and also be potentially exhaustive, time taking….

Silly

Excel isn't broke 🤣🤣🤣

They just started a big budget Sunny Deol actioner directed by Kill director Nikhil Bhat.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/antony-sunny-deol-kicks-off-a-r-murugadoss-action-thriller-with-vijay-varma-as-an-antagonist-reports/amp_articleshow/128969636.cms

This is called "Grasping at straws" to salvage a situation that is clear as day and night. I hope nobody here gets "Scammed" by a friend, goes after his OWN money and gets vilified for doing the obvious.

Ok wild thought

But what if all this is publicity and in the end ranveer will say smth like “don ko pakadna muskil hi nahin naamumkin hain” and they announce don 3 starting

That would be 😂

Originally posted by: pathaka

Ok wild thought

But what if all this is publicity and in the end ranveer will say smth like “don ko pakadna muskil hi nahin naamumkin hain” and they announce don 3 starting

That would be 😂

Originally posted by: pathaka

By all means he’s free to take them to court if it is indeed illegal and he’s not legally obligated in anyway to pay charges / didn’t operate in bad faith…no one’s stopping him

No one’s saying he can’t dispute this

I’m saying why are we assuming excel is wrong here? From where I stand, there is equal possibility that ranveer operated in bad faith too…court can decide like u said.

Out of court settlement for civil disputes is standard practice for a lot of film unions to avoid the complexities of the legal system that can have damaging reputational consequences and also be potentially exhaustive, time taking….

If ranveer is wrong legally, then the court can decide this and he will have to pay, I have never disputed that. I have always said that if farhan has legal evidence then he can take ranveer to court and get the money

Ranveer has made it clear that he is not answerable to fwice, legally fwice cannot ban him like this, lawyers have said this

Things can be settled outside of court and they have tried, ranveer has offered to pay for some damages, but farhan wants the full 45 crores, so now he has gone to fwice to ban ranveer

The kantara thing was settled quickly, the court said that there is no reason to arrest ranveer and they settled on ranveer visiting a temple. These stars have the money and power to settle things in court quickly, so if farhan had the legal evidence, then present it to court