Kangna's stance on victims of DV and dowry death - Page 2

Originally posted by: Dilsha

I think Twisha Sharma was financially independent women but even when she complained to her parents abt what was happening at her in laws house they asked to adjust. Isn’t that what should change once in laws realise no one is coming to question them they would get more confident to attack their daughter in law. I saw the fathers interview seems like he was ready to bent in front of her husband and in laws to save daughters marriage. Instead of that he should have held his head high and saved his daughter. No point talking abt this now. A life is lost and this has been happening for years. Women continue to suffer whether she’s educated or uneducated. Unless families understand their fake respect in front of society is more important than their daughter’s lives nothing will change.

exactly. educated, uneducated, employed, unemployed does not matter when it comes to DV and dowry death. its the abusive mentality and absence of strict laws for the criminals. as I said these cases are taken too lightly. maybe even their own parents don't care.

Can't believe people torture women over dowry even today in this 21st century. Its really sad and disheartening. I agree with Kangana here. An educated woman should get a job and earn money even after marriage, whether the job is big or small it doesn't matter but she should earn money.

I think equally parents are responsible for this

They say adjust now you are married do not come home

ome say think of your younger siblings how we shall marry them who will give hubby to younger sister or wife to son

Brothers do not want sister back as divorce because have to share parents property

Parents do not want back because so much dowry money waste on daughters wedding and what relatives society say if daughter back

If daughter already back parents and brothers force hit abuse saying go back hubby home

Even most educated women working in IT in big city parents will not allow divorce or to come back parents home i know many such women suffering struggling earning in lakhs every year

Best is woman buy home in your name shift there if in laws or parents brother harass after wedding

Parents and brothers are equally abusive to woman who leaves hubby house and comes back

So women have no where to go

Further whatever woman earns before marraige all parebts use of she has no money with her to rent or shift own place after wedding if hubby in laws trouble

Its two edged sword for women both as daughter and married woman

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/another-dowry-death-karnataka-woman-dies-by-suicide-over-harassment-torture-by-husband-and-in-laws/articleshow/131214052.cms

This woman was back in parents house but died mostly being forced to go back to hubby home by family

It's because of what you both wrote now that I wrote about Kangana's take not helping "in-the-matter-at-hand".

There obviously isn't a functioning 'safety-net' for all the women who suffer from what you wrote and s t i l l is a seemingly common parctice in this times.

Viswasruti had made a thread about this subject, too:

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/haven-for-her/5383013/violence-against-women-a-crisis-society-can-no-longer-ignore

But is it really a societal issue? Women are getting murdered at their homes even the employed and educated ones. It's no more just limited to societal factors. These people who kill women for dowry have criminal mindset. How are they different from serial killers who kill for fun? Who will punish them? Why is it so easy to kill their own daughter-in-law or wife and get away with it? How can they kill somebody whom they have a relation with? They are devoid of basic empathy and are similar to serial killers. The laws are weak and negligible. So they keep getting away with it. Criminals can not be taught by society to be good humans. They will never change.

In foreign countries there is no dowry, still DV happens and women get murdered. So it's not just because of dowry. It's a mindset. They want to abuse and kill women, dowry is just an excuse. Most of them don't have money issue, they are rich, well educated. So you can not even blame illiteracy here. Money is just an excuse. They are mentally sick.

Nobody has the solution to stop it yet. Laws are anyways are a joke. They barely get any punishment. The only solution is to get divorced when the initial signs of abuse start happening. Divorce is a stigma in Indian society. Many choose to suffer or die than getting divorced.

You just wrote the most important points: the mindset and the failing (legal) consequences.

So the questions are: how to change both... which one is easier (and faster) to install?

The latter (= consequences) is something Kangana could work for - at least in her constituency. The former only could be done as a very long-term project in a l l educational fields (I wrote about that in Viswasruti's thread)...

We Indians outrage more over statements by actors, cricketers, comedians than raising our voices for dv , rape victims.

Originally posted by: Clochette

You just wrote the most important points: the mindset and the failing (legal) consequences.

So the questions are: how to change both... which one is easier (and faster) to install?

The latter (= consequences) is something Kangana could work for - at least in her constituency. The former only could be done as a very long-term project in a l l educational fields (I wrote about that in Viswasruti's thread)...

men should be taught since childhood that women are not toys to be played with. they are humans and equally important.

FIR or court case should be registered at the initial abuse. best example is the thappad movie. Tapsee's character walked out for just one slap and never looked back. that was the most sensible approach. but its not easy for Indian women. even for employed women, divorce is a stigma. divorce should be normalized if someone is getting abused. the woman's close friends, parents and family should be supportive in this matter. so they get courage to get divorced. women should stop giving chances to their abusive husbands because criminals never change.

government can make small videos encouraging women to walk out of marriage when they get abused and they can spread awareness about basic human rights, divorce should be considered an option.

I have no hopes from Indian judiciary. they don't even care about rape cases. so excluded the legal aspect.