US & Israel vs Iran ongoing war discussion thread - Page 20

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Havent booked yet since 35 days hasnt passed since the last delivery

But I do see cylinder delivery in building and society

Is the situation going to worse in future if war continues?

Will there a time come.. when we need to opt for other means of cooking like induction or coal or wood?

Originally posted by: NathuPaapi

It's early morning in India right now and the first thing i read is your post.... And I'm moved to tears.

When will this world start looking at people for what they a r e instead of what religion they follow, for ex. person A may spit, urinate or j3rk in your food, person B might try to evetease adamtease or take advantage of you, person C may try to burn your house and loot your belongings, person D might try to kill you for not believing in his ideals.... Etc etc etc.... But, So what if they all (barring 1%) have one thing in common? We should not pay any attention to any pattern emerging from those incidents or from our own experiences. We should not waste our time & energy in useless concepts like 'practicality', 'safeguarding', or 'common sense' cause they may lead to phobia and hate.

Us humanitarian people should strive to s e e each person as a human being first, even with the possibility that an experience with a specific subset of humans might leave us incapable to s e e i n g anymore humans....

Practicality & Survival Instinct are anyways overrated concepts for humans. We should learn to see abstract and If we see something b a d especially from a similar subset of humans, we must close our eyes to any P a t t e r n emerging. We must keep our humanity first before anything, even survival.

I'm so looking forward to your trip to India... please do share your experiences

Thank you. I still get tears when I think of that.

This story of my trip to India is even more moving.

I visited Mumbai (and often do) because of work but really because of the Indians. This name was suggested by my Indian friends. Growing up in Europe (as a white person), I was surprised to the the vibrant peaceful living by Indians. The harmony is something we cannot miss. India is a Hindu majority country so all the credit to that community. We all know what happens when a certain community gets numbers. My colleagues and team booked cabs with Uber and very often there were Muslim drivers. Not only they never cancelled but always tipped. Hindu majority knows no limits to its benevolence towards them and all minorities. It is perhaps the only country in the world where the minority has grown in large numbers. Despite Indias neighbors where their own numbers have been killed.

On my last trip in saw news about how Muslims were defecating in food , temples, spitting and all sorts of bad behavior. There was outrage but no violence. In fact when you are in Mumbai, you see a lot of hawkers are Muslims. They are scratching their read, digging their noses and engaged in all sorts of behavior that puts one off. The Hindus just laughed it off. Then they told me, if you hear stories that some people make up, how do you think they are surviving and doing business if we discriminate. He explained this with such ease and logic

as I was thinking about what I shared with you before, I was at a pub and seeing that I was clearly European and white, a German lady approached me. She thought i would be safe to share her poison on and invited herself and sat down. After that she launched in German (most of us speak many languages there) and went on with her poison about Hindus and India. I could not bear it more than 5 minutes. I got up and said excuse me pretending to use the toilet and left the place. She was apparently on a visit to get a glimpse of some Muslim superstar that people bow down to due to his Dawood connections and they identify with their neighbors more than the prosperity and peace they have in India. I don’t know if that German got a glimpse of the movie star and I hope I never run into her again.

I shared this incident with my colleague. He did not have an ounce of irritation and anger. He said, dear colleague. It is our Hindutva that defines us not what some people with hate in their hearts speak about us. We have been subject to wars and terrorist attscks by our neighbors. We yet strive for peace but we were lucky that we got a new government a decade ago. That part I am familiar with as like us many businesses have appreciated India and its growth. I can tell you that when I used the metro in Mumbai, it was not only better but cheaper than anywhere else in the world.

If I could give awards, I would give it to Hindutva practising Indians. Their tolerance and peace is the example the world needs. I will not deny that terrorism needs a strong hand to be dealt with but Hindus never hesitate to hug you as a friend.

God has blessed you all.

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

If this continues that would be catastrophic

https://x.com/i/status/2036536815809618185

So far Natanz, Dimona and this have been hit.. Both Iran and Israel have said no leakages have happened.. Jhoot toh bol nai rahe honge waise.. ?? 🤔🤔

Reminder..there’s something new on twitter today. Congress’ blast from the past.

https://x.com/ShrivastavAni/status/2036720059348115912

https://x.com/i/status/2036690580273590557

https://x.com/i/status/2036662963332166076

https://x.com/i/status/2036717076602061098

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Originally posted by: Krinya

Any sane person can see powerful people try to divide & rule , but the fact is..theyre able to do it bec fault lines exist ..

If we keep blaming UK for india Pakistan Hindu Muslim.problem we are fooling ourselves ...radicalization due to religion IS the root cause of terrorism along with social , economic factors which are secondary ..Indian govt tried to give opportunities to kashmiri youth , lets see if they change their mindset ....kashmiri Muslims basically live off our taxes & spit poison against the ppl of india & our govt which is their govt too..

I dare the liberals to shame the Hindu religion on media , in social circles & ppl they interact with.. & repeat the same with islam , shame islam & get away without fatwa on their head...

Our scriptures teach us about karma , about uplifting human consciousness about being kind & helpful to all...their scriptures allows them to kill , rape , convert...we grow up with that mindset & they grow up with theirsm....when a child grows up with this kind of ideology that its ok to kill & be killed for religion ,the hatred keeps passing down to generations ..

We have forgotten our scriptures have also taught us to fight against evil ..that good always wins against evil....Passive approach towards aggressors in all these decades have bled us really bad ..this is the diff in israel & india ..and we need to learn the good things from them..

Muslim.majority has flourished in india look at the stats , what about minorities in Pakistan & Bangladesh? Why dont we talk abt Hindu massacre going on in Bangladesh? Are they sporadic incidents ? were they personal ? Anyone who tries to brush off kashmir & Bangladesh issue is far from reality ...

We didnt deal with them the Israeli way otherwise kashmir would be another Palestine..its for everyone to see.. First time in decades we have a sense of security in us after op sindoor ..and i hope this continues ..

Finally a collection of thoughts that doesn't focus on what the 'ennemy' does but goes more to the roots of what may have been a big factor in the divide between the followers of two opposite belief systems.

I may not agree that Israel should be taken as a 'good' example and I also doubt a bit the "sense of security", but all what I bolded is such a good base to start a more mature discussion than only point at one side.

I would like to add that in the name of secularism far too many crimes against humanity didn't get punished in a democratic way - without distinction of religion (hence my always stressing of the human being that does the deeds) and without corruption... and this may be still the case...

Also for mentioning the education... the values one passes to the next generation... should it be values that highlight the differences or should it be values more universal that overcome differences... should it be values that teach respect for human beings first and the own belief system in hindsight of supporting this aspect or should it be values of superiority, oppression and even permission for violence?

What about schools and Universities, how should they get organised to further a change into the direction of togetherness (irrespective the religion = part of the Indian constitution)? How use media/social media to further a feeling of togetherness in the diversity? Does India really n e e d s to use an enemy-image based on a religion. There had been (at least) two PMs who tried to overcome it, but the neighbour's regime was and still is such a weak one that they used every possibility to undermine brotherly connections...and why? (I think that Dhurandhar gave a sneak peek into this why.)

USA and ISRAEL just make clear how little they care for human beings themselves... as long as they could profit from Iran and the regime there, they did nothing in terms of human rights... now they ALLEGEDLY found this regime 'worthy' to get destroyed??? Maybe, bit by bit, the curtain gets opened until the r e a l motives are visible to everybody.

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https://x.com/dakuveerapan/status/2036364969634349212

Originally posted by: ModikaParivar

Thank you. I still get tears when I think of that.

This story of my trip to India is even more moving.

I visited Mumbai (and often do) because of work but really because of the Indians. This name was suggested by my Indian friends. Growing up in Europe (as a white person), I was surprised to the the vibrant peaceful living by Indians. The harmony is something we cannot miss. India is a Hindu majority country so all the credit to that community. We all know what happens when a certain community gets numbers. My colleagues and team booked cabs with Uber and very often there were Muslim drivers. Not only they never cancelled but always tipped. Hindu majority knows no limits to its benevolence towards them and all minorities. It is perhaps the only country in the world where the minority has grown in large numbers. Despite Indias neighbors where their own numbers have been killed.

On my last trip in saw news about how Muslims were defecating in food , temples, spitting and all sorts of bad behavior. There was outrage but no violence. In fact when you are in Mumbai, you see a lot of hawkers are Muslims. They are scratching their read, digging their noses and engaged in all sorts of behavior that puts one off. The Hindus just laughed it off. Then they told me, if you hear stories that some people make up, how do you think they are surviving and doing business if we discriminate. He explained this with such ease and logic

as I was thinking about what I shared with you before, I was at a pub and seeing that I was clearly European and white, a German lady approached me. She thought i would be safe to share her poison on and invited herself and sat down. After that she launched in German (most of us speak many languages there) and went on with her poison about Hindus and India. I could not bear it more than 5 minutes. I got up and said excuse me pretending to use the toilet and left the place. She was apparently on a visit to get a glimpse of some Muslim superstar that people bow down to due to his Dawood connections and they identify with their neighbors more than the prosperity and peace they have in India. I don’t know if that German got a glimpse of the movie star and I hope I never run into her again.

I shared this incident with my colleague. He did not have an ounce of irritation and anger. He said, dear colleague. It is our Hindutva that defines us not what some people with hate in their hearts speak about us. We have been subject to wars and terrorist attscks by our neighbors. We yet strive for peace but we were lucky that we got a new government a decade ago. That part I am familiar with as like us many businesses have appreciated India and its growth. I can tell you that when I used the metro in Mumbai, it was not only better but cheaper than anywhere else in the world.

If I could give awards, I would give it to Hindutva practising Indians. Their tolerance and peace is the example the world needs. I will not deny that terrorism needs a strong hand to be dealt with but Hindus never hesitate to hug you as a friend.

God has blessed you all.

Wow! Your post warmed the cockles of my heart. These days it's so rare to find anyone seeing humanity in Hindus, let alone by white Europeans... Cos all praise & sympathy goes to the ones who have copyright on the word 'peaceful' and who have been eternally oppressed wherever they are in minority .... (until they become the majority and conquer the place).

Keeping the spitting, sh!tting, p!ssing, desecrating, rioting, fighting, gr@ping, killing aside they have contributed immensely in preventing our population from decline and have contributed the most in the area of women safety and love marriages. Infact such is their contribution in finding love amongst outside communities that some jealous people have coined a special term for that. I can't write that word here because it hurts their feelings and can hurt my neck.

Finally I'd like to say that Your Humanity has indeed been an inspiration for us. I wish Trump, Netanyahu and whoever is in control of Iran listens to your experiences of humanity and learn to live in peace, if nothing else than for the sake of our petrol, gas and overall commodity prices ...

Please do share more of your memoirs

Originally posted by: IamRaj96

https://x.com/i/status/2036717076602061098

Wow... Pakistan is shining on the global diplomacy stage. As a white European my heart is going garden garden.

Oh wait I'm a brown Indian... Sorry 😮‍💨