US & Israel vs Iran ongoing war discussion thread - Page 14

Originally posted by: IamRaj96

Look, Clochette, i have no problem with you but i want to address this.

First of all, you are german and you are atheist or dont believe in religion, thats fine. Thats your perspective. I have no issue with it. You have your opinions and others have theirs. Secondly, this is india forums nd we dont have any problem with you or any other foreigners sharing their opinions here. Its a public forum, so no one has the right to tell you not to speak, you have that freedom.

Now, coming to the next point, according to you, you dont believe in religion and again thats completely fine. But here in India, many people’s daily lives are affected by terrorism linked to certain groups. You may not have faced it so you might not fully understand it but many people here have. Even those who havent directly experienced it are part of a country that has been dealing with terrorism for a long time. Naturally, they want to discuss it so why should that be a problem for you??

Secondly, if you say this war isnt about religion then i strongly disagree. For many people, it is connected to religion. Even if the USA isnt actually fighting against islamic terrorism (like they have their own interest like controlling oil reserves), israel, in particular, is fighting against what it considers islamic terrorism and extremism. That, in itself, gives people the space to discuss these aspects. You may not see it as a religious issue but for others, including israel, it is. So its not for any one person to decide what this war is about.

If you dont want to be part of discussions about terrorism or religious extremism, thats completely fine, just dont engage in those topics. You can continue discussing what interests you, like war related topics, and others can discuss what they want, including terrorism and extremism.

I hope thats fair. There is no harm in keeping distance from topics you dont believe in and others can do the same.

You wrote well. You are not the first one that has tried with her. She got a whole thread locked

Why has she not been banned by now?

Originally posted by: PunnyPotato

Yess

I also posted this

I avoid going to that forum, bcoz how openly they comment against Hindus and India, and no action is being taken there. But only 1 person was commenting in our favour, so I posted.

I also posted on the movie in one the topics there.

Originally posted by: IamRaj96

She hasnt really said anything directly to me so far so i have very much patience for her. At the same time, i understand where the others are coming from, its not hard to see their perspective. Thats why i have been trying to act as a middle ground between both sides. Now i just hope she understands what other side actually meant. And if she still doesnt then there is honestly only so much i can do.

Like I have said before too, the one thing that goes in her favour is that she's usually polite in her replies. I'll give her that. But that's where the positives end for me

Originally posted by: NathuPaapi

You lack the intellectual capacity she possesses. Thoda aur intellectual, liberal and most importantly peaceful bano fir samajh aayega fault lies in you not her posts or writing style

Ha ha, error ...she can accept when doing faults... had done it already... and she has no qualms to do so repeatedly... and no, I'm not someone who thinks what you write in the first line... you still are stuck in your bias

Originally posted by: Clochette

No, it's not about accepting everything Muslims do and cuddle them... it's against generalizing and look first at another as a Muslim (e.g.) instead looking at the other as a human being... if those human beings constantly act against human rights, they act in a condemnable way (regardless the religion)... if always the same group of people do that, defining and defending their bad deeds with religion, then that doesn't change that there are first of all humans that has to be punished for the crimes they do.

That is my take.. so if another religion would get used to do very bad deeds, to me, it still would be the human who does the deeds.

Bro you are one of the few who talk nicely.

But let me tell you, honestly, India and Hindus really have close to no reason to even treat Muslims like humans after all the shit they have done in the past and continue to do in everyday basis.

Still, we tolerate them

There is literally close to no 0 case where a Hindu has peed in a mosque or thrown pork.

But every other day, there is a case where Muslims kill cows, throw them in temples, and pee in temples and get away with it without any punishment in the name of insanity.

There is literally not even one post on this forum itself where a Muslim said what happened with Tarun was wrong, but we did see posts insulting Priyanka even when she did post for PlayStation.

Unlike us, who do call out if Hindus do wrong and even call out Modi.

Rather are called andhbhakt, but if I reply that person calling them andhnamzi, their ego gets hurt and I am being called insulting their religion but never them for the shit they say.

Originally posted by: HiddenPaki

You wrote well. You are not the first one that has tried with her. She got a whole thread locked

Why has she not been banned by now?

That itself will tell you a lot of things about this forum.

Just see how the pack of jackals in Bollywood forum are spreading pollution in there openly and without fear because they know no one gonna take any steps against them. But if anyone protested ? An immediate ban or increase in WL !

They tag eo and openly support terrorism and terrorists also spewing hatred against Indian and Hindus. This German agent is one of them.

Disgusting state of affairs.

Originally posted by: Swathi_7

Middle class and above classes will somehow adjust ..my sympathies are about people who already make just one or two meals a day.. price of groceries shouldnt be hiked..hope state and central government handles this with empathy..with election time state governments are more concerned about freebies though

No it is the middle class who will suffer as usual. The government is providing free ration since Covid time, ab aur increase ho jaega.

Only people who will suffer are gonna be honest middle class tax payers.

Joh kahi ke nahi rahenge nor they will do anything wrong but will suffer anyway without any help.

Originally posted by: Clochette

No, it's not about accepting everything Muslims do and cuddle them... it's against generalizing and look first at another as a Muslim (e.g.) instead looking at the other as a human being... if those human beings constantly act against human rights, they act in a condemnable way (regardless the religion)... if always the same group of people do that, defining and defending their bad deeds with religion, then that doesn't change that there are first of all humans that has to be punished for the crimes they do.

That is my take.. so if another religion would get used to do very bad deeds, to me, it still would be the human who does the deeds.

Then I have to say you are expecting too much out from us and it may not be possible at least in the near future... The underlying thread (their religion and book) binding that group calls for the killing of non believers... Unless that thread is there in the current state and form, I am afraid more and more people will continue to see their crimes as the crime of the community and not that of an individual.... I am not saying everyone should be killed but you can't stop others from judging them... How would I as a non believer know to what extent a believer is ready to go to fulfill the tenets of the religion ? Also Muslim population in Germany is around 6-7% and yet u guys are giving way to RW anti muslim migration governments.. We have God knows by some estimates 30% of them ... What do u think our choices would be ??

Originally posted by: Krinya

Haan this is certainly not a propaganda How peace is the only religion in this world ..and pakistanis are our brothers who will c0me bk one day singing apne toh apne hote hain ...and Bangladeshis will follow..China will realize panditjis dream was genuine , they will apologize for attacking india in 65 and give our territory back.....terrorist leaders will become the mlas of kashmir ....

All this is happening in somebody's lala land

Real propaganda movies are never called propaganda.

Films that doesn't insult India, Hindus are the ones that are called propaganda by lefties.

Those lefties who does drama about freedom but have issues if someone else like the things they don't like.

Originally posted by: InsaneDivine

Honestly I think its Prophet's life where the moderation draws a line.. Last time also when members posted about him, posts got removed with 3x10^8 m/sec speed... I am not saying anyone posted wrong facts here, but even on Twitter I have seen this becomes a no go area... Those who quote or talk about Islam also do so indirectly.. Only Ex Muslims are able to do so and you know how secretive are they... Nupur Sharma, Sharmishtha, Salim Wastik all suffered.. May be here also they think their can be real life threat on owner or the staff...

That said BW forum I understand seems to be quite biased even to me.. Last time during Op Sindoor time they literally let Pakistanis asking proof of terror attacks on India have a free run... However I believe if films like Dhurandhar (which are not just good stories but are also entertaining ) keep getting made, BW forum will have to make way for people with opposing views...

Rest when it comes to Islamic extremism and Islam itself, it's impact on common people, Iranians who are continuously fighting against the regime, Pakistan, terrorism in sab discussions ko toh nahi rokna chahiye.... If Hindutva, Modi, RSS phlana dhimkana can be discussed so can this.... Ab religion of peace religion of peace nahi hai yeh bagair religion ko discuss kiye bina kaise bataya jaa sakta hai....

Just say andhnamazi to the people who are saying andhbhkat, and watch your post getting removed and never there.

That forum is known for Anti-India and Anti-Hindu narratives.