♛✧ Mr. and Mrs Parshuram: Episode Discussion Thread #1 ✧♛ - Page 36

Originally posted by: Dihiva

Hey guys!

Was out of time to type anything about the episodes for a while but I have been watching and enjoying them. Yes, the episodes have been short, wonder why? Anyways, I am liking the suspense angles shown regarding Shalini's identity and her involvement with Babbar and gang.

I don't feel Shalini is in the wrong, she may be undercover in Babbar's gang and she was the one who informed Parshuram's dept about the gang reaching the port that day. She may be like a mole who was placed in the drug gang. Both Parshuram and Shalini may not know about their undercover identities but they both work in the same dept. Since we are being shown from Parshuram's perspective we feel Shalini may be on the wrong side but it may not be true. To be honest, so far, I have not seen any feelings of guilt from Shiv and Shalini about hiding their true identities.

I agree she probably jumped into the water when Parshuram shot at them at the shipyard most probably to avoid blowing her cover. The lady they referred to at the top of Babbar's gang is probably Sheetal. Sheetal was definitely shocked seeing Shalini when she first came to kill Parshuram when they were dancing on Shivratri. She recognized both Shiv and Shalini. She probably recognized Shalini as a member of her gang and realized she is also like Parshuram, an undercover agent. So now Sheetal is making Babbar call Shalini and cause insecurity in her because she doesn't want to put her kids in trouble once again. I feel she is insecure about her cover blowing because of Babbar and her kids or even Shiv being in trouble. So she wants Shiv also around her so she can be sure he is safe. From her perspective, she may feel Shiv is also at risk because of her spy activity. Shalini is also someone like Parshuram who stands up against wrong and doesn't shy away from punishing the culprit. She herself would not be doing anything that she knows is wrong. But there may be a time in the show when Parshuram and Shalini may stand on either side of the same case and end up working together once they realize they are on the same side.

Nandini, Manish, Deepali, everyone is in their own zone. I did not understand why Nandini would take Shalini to talk to Kabir because Shalini doesn't seem to be caring of Dixits. That entire episode was all over the place for me. But one thing struck me, Shalini says to Shiv, "I went to the Dept with Nandini as Kabir is arrested" and Shiv says, "What? Why did you go to the dept?" or something like that as if 'the dept' is something they were both aware of.

Kids are adorable and Neil's interaction with them is heartwarming. Shalini is a bit more nervous around the children and Shiv probably because she feels she may put them in risk because of her job. Shalini is not like a normal mother. She seems to be very courageous in many ways. But she feels vulnerable and is jumpy because of her line of work.

If I were Parshuram, I would shoot Ayushi and be done with that spoilt brat. Aradhya has no sense of right and wrong, all she cares about is her marriage not happening. I don't think Manish sent goons to Shalini's home with a gun. It is someone else because then he wouldn't be asking for who the victim of the kidnap was. He would have already known their address like Shalini said today. Manish seems to be unaware of the incident. I like the way Parshuram talks to Manish vs. Shiv talking to Manish. Rest will wait for the story to unfold.

If I were Parshuram, I would shoot all Dixits. Parshuam and his edge of weapon - Gun! I am trying to recite and remember that dialogue but that's too philosophically Hindi for me.

Your theory sounds really good one! So far, Shalini seems more like a criminal at this point but let me think it from your theory point

What if Shalini is well aware of Parshuram, and Parshuram keeps informing his boss at intervals (sometimes ends up talking to Pihu), what if the "boss" is actually Shalini or equal, who has assigned Shalini riskier and higher task of nabbing Babbar and his racket.

Now, question is do Mr and Mrs. Parshuram know each other? As you pointed out of department, or it could be a miss on writer's part.

As for that episode of Shalini going to department for Shalini, Nandini trusted Shalini (Could she be aware?), and from writer's point of view, she went to find out truth of Kabir

I have already made a long post for other comments, but in general I found today's episode to be very boring. Family scenes don't interest me much, and Pihu also annoyed me. How old would she be in the show, I don't think 9-10 year old kids talk that way? Chintu seem way more real. Plus that phone call which could have been 1-minute thing dragged for like 5 damn minutes, as @sadiltl mentioned same genes theory!

I think tomorrow will be dhishoom dhishoom.

Originally posted by: AninditaB

It's Kabir and Dodo's goons. Especially Kabir's father most probably will be Karan Kulkarni, sent those goons to her house. And even Karan (most probably) is also interlinked with Babbar's case.

Yes, I think goons were never sent by Dixits. It will be very sad if they are in those hooligan business. It was mostly Kabir and Dodo, who has done the honour. Noticed the smirk on their faces when they met those goons.

Shalini knows nothing of her family if she believes they sent goons to their house who would have any sympathy for such uncle. If she really believed that he sent goons, she should have not even bothered being nice to him to begin with! What a weirdo.

Originally posted by: Cute_Kate

If I were Parshuram, I would shoot all Dixits. Parshuam and his edge of weapon - Gun! I am trying to recite and remember that dialogue but that's too philosophically Hindi for me.

Your theory sounds really good one! So far, Shalini seems more like a criminal at this point but let me think it from your point theory point

What if Shalini is well aware of Parshuram, and Parshuram keeps informing his boss at intervals (sometimes ends up talking to Pihu), what if the "boss" is actually Shalini or equal, who has assigned Shalini riskier and higher task of nabbing Babbar and his racket.

Now, question is do Mr and Mrs. Parshuram know each other? As you pointed out of department, or it could be a miss on writer's part.

As for that episode of Shalini going to department for Shalini, Nandini trusted Shalini (Could she be aware?), and from writer's point of view, she went to find out truth of Kabir

Shalini being Parashuram's boss or higher official could very well happen. Shalini never seemed to be guilty of any wrong doing but just jumpy and nervous mostly. Maybe she stayed home and was crying at home during kidnap because she couldn't risk blowing her cover like Parshuram could on the street because she was undercover in babbar's gang. Because normally she is a fire brand like you said. And I also never so far felt both of them feeling guilty about hiding their identities. Classic spy behaviour. They are proud of the greater work for the country they are committed to and wouldn't be guilty of hiding it from their families nor worry too much if they came to know like Chintu did.

Originally posted by: Dihiva

Shalini being Parashuram's boss or higher official could very well happen. Shalini never seemed to be guilty of any wrong doing but just jumpy and nervous mostly. Maybe she stayed home and was crying at home during kidnap because she couldn't risk blowing her cover like Parshuram could on the street because she was undercover in babbar's gang. Because normally she is a fire brand like you said. And I also never so far felt both of them feeling guilty about hiding their identities. Classic spy behaviour. They are proud of the greater work for the country they are committed to and wouldn't be guilty of hiding it from their families nor worry too much if they came to know like Chintu did.

True! They are serving greater purpose so yes morally they dont feel guilty. but when you share an emotional bond, you are obligated to tell the truth. Didnt we disucss this in the beginning? And I asked not to judge Shiv for hiding the truth? But think in the premises of their house, bedroom and mental space. Will anyone be comfortable sleeping with man/woman who are NOT what they think? May be they have genuine feelings for each other. But wouldnt they feel insecure of losing the other person when the truth comes out about their identity. I think they do. If they love and care, they do worry constantly about losing them over their identities. If I am right, that is be the whole focus point and emotional conflict in the OG story as well. Will Shalini not wonder that the love he showered all the while is "part" of his job or his true feelings. She will have to discover it. And vice versa.

Originally posted by: sadiltl

True! They are serving greater purpose so yes morally they dont feel guilty. but when you share an emotional bond, you are obligated to tell the truth. Didnt we disucss this in the beginning? And I asked not to judge Shiv for hiding the truth? But think in the premises of their house, bedroom and mental space. Will anyone be comfortable sleeping with man/woman who are NOT what they think? May be they have genuine feelings for each other. But wouldnt they feel insecure of losing the other person when the truth comes out about their identity. I think they do. If they love and care, they do worry constantly about losing them over their identities. If I am right, that is be the whole focus point and emotional conflict in the OG story as well. Will Shalini not wonder that the love he showered all the while is "part" of his job or his true feelings. She will have to discover it. And vice versa.

I don't know what the OG show is or what the focus was in that show. But all I am saying is I have not felt either Shiv or Shalini being guilty or insecure in their marriage thus far.

I have a different perspective on trust/insecurity aspects in marriage. So in this theme(spy thriller) of the show it would be wierd for me to see them going through too much emotional stress in marriage especially after being married for a long time and having 2 children. If either of them was not a spy then emotional turmoil would be great from their side when they get to know the truth about their partner.. but if both are spies, their way of looking at relationship of marriage would be similar and objective. But if that is the way the makers choose to go it would be just another hindi serial, I guess. Let's see.

Originally posted by: sadiltl

True! They are serving greater purpose so yes morally they dont feel guilty. but when you share an emotional bond, you are obligated to tell the truth. Didnt we disucss this in the beginning? And I asked not to judge Shiv for hiding the truth? But think in the premises of their house, bedroom and mental space. Will anyone be comfortable sleeping with man/woman who are NOT what they think? May be they have genuine feelings for each other. But wouldnt they feel insecure of losing the other person when the truth comes out about their identity. I think they do. If they love and care, they do worry constantly about losing them over their identities. If I am right, that is be the whole focus point and emotional conflict in the OG story as well. Will Shalini not wonder that the love he showered all the while is "part" of his job or his true feelings. She will have to discover it. And vice versa.

I relate to the sentiments here, because that is quite realistic and how it should be, how I wish it was. However, I have lower hopes given the way makers have been dealing with it. So far, I don't think I have seen any fear in Shiv for losing Shalini because Shalini has time and again proven that for her Shiv's love is above all. He somewhere knows that he will again convince Shalini with those cute little puppy eyes. So, yes I do wish to see some sentimental aspects from Shiv's side on how he feels about lying and have that fear of losing Shalini if she finds out, but I don't see it.

Let along about lying, would he ever feel guilty about his impulsive actions in restaurant? Shalini's action would have ended the discussion, but kidnapping was result of gun firing. Shalini knows it was Parshuram because Kabir kept saying who is Parshuram, who shot at restaurant; So, from that sense does Parshuram not become villain in their family story?

My head will go back to Parshuram and Shalini's story. I will stop here

As for Shalini, since her character has not been revealed much, I find it difficult to associate with her sentiments. Is she a spy or part of the criminal gang?

@Bold: This is where I am confused, so long as a married couple, and yet not knowing the other one's true nature. Shalini still does not know her husband's strengths and his capability to protect them by beating up goons? As for Shalini, she seems to show her strength very clearly. Probably her family's background keeps her strong; but her connection with Babbar, gives me more vibes of fear than bravery

Originally posted by: Dihiva

Shalini being Parashuram's boss or higher official could very well happen. Shalini never seemed to be guilty of any wrong doing but just jumpy and nervous mostly. Maybe she stayed home and was crying at home during kidnap because she couldn't risk blowing her cover like Parshuram could on the street because she was undercover in babbar's gang. Because normally she is a fire brand like you said. And I also never so far felt both of them feeling guilty about hiding their identities. Classic spy behaviour. They are proud of the greater work for the country they are committed to and wouldn't be guilty of hiding it from their families nor worry too much if they came to know like Chintu did.

Makes me wonder if Shalini knew Shiv would manage it all because she is higher official who knows Shiv = Parshuram?

Or maybe she just informed her officials to handle it, and she trusted them.

I think that was the only scene where she seemed weaker than Parshuram.

Otherwise, both Shalini and Parshuram are level-headed, strong, and extremely in sync! Shiv is just third wheel in their story.

Originally posted by: Dihiva

I don't know what the OG show is or what the focus was in that show. But all I am saying is I have not felt either Shiv or Shalini being guilty or insecure in their marriage thus far.

I have a different perspective on trust/insecurity aspects in marriage. So in this theme(spy thriller) of the show it would be wierd for me to see them going through too much emotional stress in marriage especially after being married for a long time and having 2 children. If either of them was not a spy then emotional turmoil would be great from their side when they get to know the truth about their partner.. but if both are spies, their way of looking at relationship of marriage would be similar and objective. But if that is the way the makers choose to go it would be just another hindi serial, I guess. Let's see.

@Bold : See, I am unable to look at this show only from spy-thriller perspective, because somewhere makers are equally promoting this as family drama, Had it been spy-thriller Krishna Arjun or mystery thriller like Sheh Chhal or Maat, scenario would have been different, where emotions and all could take back seat. But in family based shows (which seems heavier here at this point given Shiv's family and also lousy Dixit of Shalini's), emotions do form a strong base, which sometimes I feel this show takes little for granted at this point, making me less interested in family side of story.

@Brown: This is the thing! That yes, once the truth is out, it wouldn't impact their marriage, because BOTH have been hiding it all along; but what emotional arc I would love to see is that sense of fear that other one "may" not accept their violent side. The one who finds out will be sadder because first one to find out will continue playing their game

So far in family scenario, Shiv and Shalini seems to have managed the environment where Shalini gets triggered even if she hears her kids talk about these terms, like gun shots, etc. But then Shiv believes Shalini does not like such talks, Shalini should agree that even Shiv does not given he is anyway coward. So in their heads, shouldn't there be a slight worry of what if the other one finds out their real side? Assuming their Parshuram sides are real!

Uuff finally an episode that I enjoyed end to end minus the Dixit crap! Why do they spend so much time on the screen

Loved every single point of it, let's start with the entry. Shalini faced off with goons, and as usual, she got scared. But just when they were about to attack came the van, with faceless man who just entered to beat the goons out the way. I absolutely loved the whole action sequence, and Neil really nails every bit of those - punches, kicks and guns, all of them were just delight.

Shalini and kids had extra layer of protection. It was so funny that they just came there and stood next to them while Shalini kept enquiring. And on the other side Parshuram was beating hell out of goons - SINGLE HANDEDLY! And operation will end in 10 minutes was like cherry. He needs no one, he manages in 10 minutes, he can just make people talk with revolver in his hand.

For change, no reckless action, but did he let Babbar's goon go or were they arrested too? Also, I liked the way he gave that look of confusion and "Strange" words when he heard they were sent by Babbar, as he mostly expected danger to only be from Dodo and Kabir.

Oh! And not the forget that side sneak of Parshuram watching Shalini Pass in the car and that I Love You, my family was so hot.

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And jump towards the end, when Parshuram entered their special brand investigation room! The way he slammed that goon was another level, his anger and his gun were on perfect place, but you know something, it did seem like goon will pick up the gun and actually shoot him, he seemed convinced that Parshuram was being foolish.

Now, I am confused about one more thing, did Babbar really target to attack and kill Shalini? So, if she is part of his gang, why would he be attack her? In that case, she seems to be in anti-Babbar team? But which team. What's going on with Shalini ?

Same Parshuram, why did he target Shalini?

PS: Shiv's kids blabber alotWhat was chintu saying? Brave man, common man, etc in such a serious situation.