Mannat Har Khushi Paane Ki: Episode Discussion Thread - 38 - Page 84

Originally posted by: Daman17

I agree with what you’ve said, but at the same time these portal narratives are usually driven by the makers themselves to test the waters. Whether negative or positive the intent is to create hype around the show. As Moor rightly pointed out, he mentioned that things will eventually get resolved but given the current track, that it feels like an eternity especially when the story has barely moved beyond the characters just crossing paths. The core issue lies with the writers and the execution team and that is precisely why Ayesha and Mannat are facing backlash. Viewers tend to connect with a character’s core and perspective. From the audience’s POV, she is a single woman living with her brother in law, who himself acknowledged her as a sister in the pre leap episodes. Now, showing him developing feelings for her based on time spent together under changed circumstances is not being received well. The confusion arises when actors give IV stating that the character is a strong single mother only for the narrative to later shift towards co-parenting with another man. The outrage is not about future plot possibilities but about what is being shown currently especially when the writers reuse the same dialogues that were once used for Manvik. Sadly, audiences often overlook men’s actions and instead direct their frustration towards the woman. What viewers expected was a pure, untainted friendship with no emotional milawat. However, the flipped dialogues and DK’s partial acceptance of his feelings give the audience an impression of intent, especially when viewed in light of pre-leap incidents. Even if he hadn’t fallen for her earlier he clearly has now, while the girl remains completely unaware of his feelings and continues to give him lifetime assurances without knowing the full truth and here DK also uaware of Vik’s truth, but it feels like the team is deliberately cashing in on negative hype similar to what they did during the Malla-Vik angle. Perhaps this is also why the Y character was introduced, after audiences reacted against the two sisters and one man dynamic, calling it a bad social example. To course-correct, the makers added a new female character in Vik’s life. In our society, such relationships still face limited acceptance, and that is why the backlash is spilling across all platforms.

During my discussion with Rd yesterday, I mentioned and anticipated the potential trolling and backlash FL would receive , specifically in view of her lifetime assurances and his accepted feelings for her.

Originally posted by: Moor278

SS guy ke update ka crucial point miss ho gaya hai sabse....

This scene where Mannat has to choose is not yet written... its a future scenario according to his sources...

And this situation will occur when majority of the things have been resolved

Which means some truths are out... there is a softening on both sides and most importantly this scene is yet to be shot....

Honestly I was expecting this somewhere down the line... not for herself but for Dua... this is why I said Vik has to win Dua over DK and most possibly DK will have to die to vacate the baba space for Vik to come in.

Currently Mannat is in I hate Vik mode... she even told Neetu that she doesnt want that kind of pyar from Vik and would prefer to stay alone...

Thats the bitterness she has for him... for her to even wonder about choosing means Vik ka kuch to redemption hua hai 😅

Chill out people... theres T20 worldcup next week onwards and IPL... 😂

And lets see how much this comes out true... he has made tall claims earlier too... some of which never came out.

Bold: what Mannat says is correct as of now. Unless and until VS changes, their relationship is pretty much futile. Mannat is a ITV heroine so she will forgive this much insult & CA. I would have kneed him & called the mental asylum for a bed!

Originally posted by: Daman17

She praises Mannat like anything in last night celebrations. Why would she end it her most popular venture soon.. which she acknowledged herself 😂😂😂😂 sab baatien hai

And her only money making show which has been a slot leader and even completed with Upma, tulsi and stayed in top 15. This might be funding her new show also

Originally posted by: Daman17

She praises Mannat like anything in last night celebrations. Why would she end it her most popular venture soon.. which she acknowledged herself 😂😂😂😂 sab baatien hai

Havent yet seen the BTS of her speech. Would love to hear her pearls of “wisdom”.

I didn’t have any issue during the first 2-3 weeks of the track. In fact, it felt like a sensible move showing how a certain set of people come together as a family and jointly handle responsibilities. However, from last week onward, the narrative has started shifting towards creating negative hype, and that’s where my problem begins. My main issue is with the writing, and I will call it out for what it is a complete dragfest. The same dialogues are being repeated by the show’s protagonist again and again, and it feels forced. There are obvious undercurrents, but the writers had several better options to fill the gaps. For instance, they could have shown DK actually functioning as a cop and handling a case, explored how Mannat established Dua’s kitchen, or delved into Ronnie’s trauma after losing everything. What disappoints me even more is the absence of Mannat Ronnie scenes. They suffered the most as a family, neetu being unwell and Vik left them at alter yet we are not shown how they rebuilt their live as a family. In comparison, DK never had that deep emotional bond with Vik, so the excessive focus on his pain feels disproportionate. If the intent is to address Mannat’s trauma, I would be happy because that is what the audience wants. But doing it under the constant DK mahaan baba narrative in every single episode is not ok with me. This is Mannat’s story, yet the writing conveniently positions DK as the primary victim of Neetu’s rage to generate sympathy. I was actually expecting a proper DK–Vik face-off, but nothing of that sort happened. Instead, DK’s emotional acceptance is indirectly pushed through Neetu, a character whose behaviour was repeatedly WW by the FL herself. After DK’s confession, the sudden shift in his expressions makes the entire arc look uncomfortable and poorly executed. I am not okay with this dragfest. I don’t mind other characters discussing their inner turmoil, but not at the cost of the FL character arc. Such narratives inevitably lead to FL character assassination, and that is something I strongly object to. The separation between Manvik happened for a reason, yet instead of highlighting the pain and suffering of both of them, the writing once again chooses to focus on the pain of just one character. That is again biased storytelling. I had called out the writers even before the leap for consistently pushing the narrative through vamps while sidelining the leads, and I will do so again now. DK, as a character, was initially written well, but this sudden change in direction is not working for me. I didn’t question his actions earlier because they felt pure and untainted. But now, the idea that only one person’s suffering matters feels forced and unnatural. On the other hand, the show has started portraying Vik as someone who has no romantic feelings for Y and still holds Mannat somewhere in his heart. Once again this shift works against Mannat’s character alone, not DK’s. Neetu, as a mother, committed multiple crimes many of which were conveniently WW or brushed under the rug. While her karma being served in the form of health issues is understandable, going overboard with sympathy is not. Mannat was absolutely right in calling her out for Vik’s behaviour and even supporting DK’s sacrifice to an extent. However, taking it too far and glorifying him completely ignores the fact that he is also the same man whose mistakes contributed to her present trauma. Years of support cannot simply erase his past actions, and portraying it otherwise is poor and disappointing writing.

Originally posted by: moonwearer

Vikrant and Mannat knew EO for say 2 years in which Mannat has to save herself from ARS, save Shalini , Sunitha, Shruti from the various attempts on their life and reputation. Finally she grew guilty of not naving Sunitha and Shruti.

Vikrant enacted and got trapped in the paan masala wedding. the manipulation by ARS.

The big bad wedding when she was abandoned at the altar and had in a ONS resulting in her pregnancy.

SM only altered her life by taking her mother away and giving her motherhood. No understanding and trust for her words and actions. Shes mafe to always look for PROOFS .

When she was abandoned by the love of her life DCP and Ronnie have stood by her for 7 years They trust her unconditionally. They have given her hope and jointly raised DUA. Helped her face challenges by assuming to play the role of her Papa and Duas. So the comfort they have with each other is understandable. It is a middle class life she and DCP have been raised in. They have helped Ronnie adapt to the altered circumstances of being stripped of his wealth and comfort.

DCP has learnt the bitter truth of his mother. Being with Mannat and the Salujas has given him a purpose in life

In Ektaa YHM Dr Ishita would be seated on a white bench whenever upset and she would have conversations primarily with her Jeeju , with her Appa , Akka and Mummyji. I see this Chai pe charcha as the way rhe bond of friendship has been built here.

There have been challenges they have faced together and solved as best as they could so there is a certain ease in the interaction and they hope that they would remain so

Vikrant made vachans that he has never been able to uphold. He made the choice of living in wealth deserting the ones that loved him and thinks that YUvi is his purpose for living but its been a relationship of pampering and succumbing to his demand for things it is not a healthy relationship.

Dua has been anchoring the indore family by her love care and perceptions to protect her family

Not sure what value addition Vikrant can make in her upbringing.

With due respect agree to disagree.

About Mannat DK as such I have no problem. Mannat Vikrant it’s upto them what they have to do. But my personal POV is that they should be together because of love not for something else. If they want to give their relationship a chance then it should be solely because of love. If not then also it’s upto them.

Bold-How can we say that Vikrant will not be a good father without seeing him with Dua? FFS Yuvi is not his kid, he is Malla’s kid. Unlike Mannat and DK he is not co parenting Yuvi. For Dua DK is her father because they are pretending as husband and wife. That’s not the case of Vikrant and Malla. For Yuvi he is a like a friend and that’s why all the tantrums. And all this treating people bad comes for Malla if we go by BTS.

IDK why people are saying that Vikrant will not be good father to Dua. Parenting is not like you are born with that. At every stage you learn. When kid is new born, toddler, teenager is completely different 😜, then there’s an adolescence years that’s another phase😜. So basically every stage brings new challenges to parents.

My mom still get worried for me though I am married and I am myself a mom. Parenting is a never ending job. You learn at every stage and your responsibility and care as parents never change or end.

Vikrant will also learn if given a chance. He will learn how to love your kid, protecting your kid from any harm, the prayers for your kids well-being.

Without giving him any chance how can we assume? Just because he is surrounded by Vamps? He will also learn to protect his kid.

About Mannat yes she can decide if she wants to forgive or not but depriving Vikrant his parental rights will be downright cruel when he himself is oblivious to whole truth 😢 and he definitely deserves a chance🤞.

❤️🤗

Absolutely agree.

I wrote elsewhere Mannat is alone now with the Indore gang manipulating her ( Ronnie included, it’s a matter of time) and the Mumbai gang who would straightway want to kill her
And yet Vikrant is in no position to support her. Because not one of the women on his side are getting exposed anytime soon.

I will point out one thing where I go in a different tangent.

Pre-leap they showed Mannat WW Neetu for all her crimes even going against Vikrant and ignoring his trauma. So, I found yesterday's scene a bit over the top where Mannat was threatening the same maa for whom she fought with Vikrant. I felt the scene was not for Mannat's benefit, but was added just to elevate DK further .

Imagine the dude was arguing with Neetu a moment ago, stopped her, was shocked Neetu defended Vikrant, suddenly starts crying right when Mannat enters, Mannat elevates him to godly status while he stands there crying, he doesn't utter a word or stops Mannat , then when alone with Mannat becomes mahaan by saying Neetu is after all maa and wants to meet Vikrant and gets more praises & promises from Mannat. What was this scene even meant to convey, DK is Cunning and Mannat is stupid?

The writers are writing these scenes intentionally. Same for Vikrant there is hardly anything for Vikrant character.

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