Mannat Har Khushi Paane Ki: Episode Discussion Thread - 38 - Page 50

Originally posted by: Moor278

Bold... Neetuji....😁

This is like expecting the same behaviour Malla did...

Stay with mom/Aish/Vish inspite of knowing she has done crimes and supporting her 😆

Enjoy the stolen/snatched riches and be around his brother who doesnt accept him anyway...

And I know you would point out that DK can expose Vishakha... I want to ask how??? Since the same proofs exist which Mannat brought ahead... if he didnt trust Mannat what makes you think he will trust DK???

Those proofs are not good enough to jail Vish either.

As always Vik needs to see with his own eyes for him to accept that there could be an alternate truth...

You dont get this difference between Malla and DK which people/me are trying to tell you... its the intentions...

The crimes you list down were decisions taken when DK believed Aman needs to be taken back from a murderer family... the decisions he took later (of hiding the truth) were again in Vikrants favour... since he saw Vikku was happy in his make believe family...

Sach gang was really trying to avoid the aftermath of that truth reveal... which is exactly what happened.

DK will still look out for Neetu inspite of the harshest words... which the worthless woman wont ever recognise...

He must have been the only earning member when they were thrown out.... and DK need not have taken their responsibility... but he did... as sort of penance for his brothers mistake.... Sadly very few people see it that way 🤐

What penance Moor?

You say DK did it unintentionally but his mistakes are can’t be ignored 😡. I disagree with you. At least Vikrant was blinded by his rage , hurt and to back that up he has his own memories which Vish took advantage of it. If these people could’ve told him the truth sooner he would’ve believed them but no they decided to become Mahan and never ever to tell him the truth. They highly underestimated his FB’s and trigger points which Vish took advantage of in her favour .

What they were thinking that Vikrant will never get his memories back? Mannat knew he already got his partial memory back with that accident skit and Neetu EB Mannat. Later they found Dadi and it was correct time to tell the truth but no they decided to keep quite knowing very well what Vish can do🤬. Specially DK he knew how manipulative his mom is😡

If we see Vikrant never wanted Ronny’s wealth. He himself told Vish that I am capable enough to take care of you. But Vish manipulated him by saying that Ronny will again use his wealth like last time to save Neetu and that’s why Vikrant agreed to get that property from them.( Here he already got his memories back so he believed Vish)

He did exactly that what Mannat did to save Shruti from ARS.

As long as believing Malla yes he believed her because for him she was reformed and trying to rectify her mistakes like Gagan and he told her to do so.

And yes not sadly but gladly I am definitely one of those who can’t ignore his mistakes which he did it with his eyes open knowing very well how Malla and Vish blackmailed,manipulated him. What extent they were willing to go so Vikrant will get his memories back and they will have an upper hand. He knew very well that Vish was here only for money not for Vikrant but still he didn’t do anything to save his bro from her clutches 🤬.

About Neetu you know I can’t forgive her for what she did to Vikrant and I agree with @RD because we are on same page when it comes to DK😡😜

Bold- aftermath would’ve been less if only they could’ve stick to truth when they had an opportunity and all the proofs by their side😡

Originally posted by: truptishree

What penance Moor?

You say DK did it unintentionally but his mistakes are can’t be ignored 😡. I disagree with you. At least Vikrant was blinded by his rage , hurt and to back that up he has his own memories which Vish took advantage of it. If these people could’ve told him the truth sooner he would’ve believed them but no they decided to become Mahan and never ever to tell him the truth. They highly underestimated his FB’s and trigger points which Vish took advantage of in her favour .

What they were thinking that Vikrant will never get his memories back? Mannat knew he already got his partial memory back with that accident skit and Neetu EB Mannat. Later they found Dadi and it was correct time to tell the truth but no they decided to keep quite knowing very well what Vish can do🤬. Specially DK he knew how manipulative his mom is😡

If we see Vikrant never wanted Ronny’s wealth. He himself told Vish that I am capable enough to take care of you. But Vish manipulated him by saying that Ronny will again use his wealth like last time to save Neetu and that’s why Vikrant agreed to get that property from them.( Here he already got his memories back so he believed Vish)

He did exactly that what Mannat did to save Shruti from ARS.

As long as believing Malla yes he believed her because for him she was reformed and trying to rectify her mistakes like Gagan and he told her to do so.

And yes not sadly but gladly I am definitely one of those who can’t ignore his mistakes which he did it with his eyes open knowing very well how Malla and Vish blackmailed,manipulated him. What extent they were willing to go so Vikrant will get his memories back and they will have an upper hand. He knew very well that Vish was here only for money not for Vikrant but still he didn’t do anything to save his bro from her clutches 🤬.

About Neetu you know I can’t forgive her for what she did to Vikrant and I agree with @RD because we are on same page when it comes to DK😡😜

Bold- aftermath would’ve been less if only they could’ve stick to truth when they had an opportunity and all the proofs by their side😡

Same points have been discussed this morning..Trupti Good to hear from you and I appreciate the detailed information you provided..I share the same thoughts and views..

I stopped sharing my take on these points because it was a minority opinion.

Originally posted by: truptishree

What penance Moor?

You say DK did it unintentionally but his mistakes are can’t be ignored 😡. I disagree with you. At least Vikrant was blinded by his rage , hurt and to back that up he has his own memories which Vish took advantage of it. If these people could’ve told him the truth sooner he would’ve believed them but no they decided to become Mahan and never ever to tell him the truth. They highly underestimated his FB’s and trigger points which Vish took advantage of in her favour .

What they were thinking that Vikrant will never get his memories back? Mannat knew he already got his partial memory back with that accident skit and Neetu EB Mannat. Later they found Dadi and it was correct time to tell the truth but no they decided to keep quite knowing very well what Vish can do🤬. Specially DK he knew how manipulative his mom is😡

If we see Vikrant never wanted Ronny’s wealth. He himself told Vish that I am capable enough to take care of you. But Vish manipulated him by saying that Ronny will again use his wealth like last time to save Neetu and that’s why Vikrant agreed to get that property from them.( Here he already got his memories back so he believed Vish)

He did exactly that what Mannat did to save Shruti from ARS.

As long as believing Malla yes he believed her because for him she was reformed and trying to rectify her mistakes like Gagan and he told her to do so.

And yes not sadly but gladly I am definitely one of those who can’t ignore his mistakes which he did it with his eyes open knowing very well how Malla and Vish blackmailed,manipulated him. What extent they were willing to go so Vikrant will get his memories back and they will have an upper hand. He knew very well that Vish was here only for money not for Vikrant but still he didn’t do anything to save his bro from her clutches 🤬.

About Neetu you know I can’t forgive her for what she did to Vikrant and I agree with @RD because we are on same page when it comes to DK😡😜

Bold- aftermath would’ve been less if only they could’ve stick to truth when they had an opportunity and all the proofs by their side😡

Yaar ek hi baat kitni baar likhu main 🤦‍♀️

It was the intentions....

bold... sach gang didnt want Vik to go through what Mannat has gone through... to be told that your mom sold you for money. You are right when you say they could have told the truth with Dadi as witness... but they didnt... when they were the ones on the right side... why???? Because the truth was much much harsher than the lie. Which they wanted to avoid for Vik.

We can rightfully debate on whether he had the right to know... that doesnt what they did was wrong either.

And as audience we dont know for sure how Vik would have reacted.... he might have left all of them and gone to Vish....

Red is the yardstick wala point i mentione to RD .. if Vik can believe Vish who he knows has lied and has met a few days ago... why cant DK... vo unki bio mom hai... extend the same yardstick for both brothers of trusting the mom 🙄

Blue... this doesn't have a logical explanation at all... Ronnie was ready to hand over the property which he did... Malla is a certified liar and criminal... extend the same courtesy to DK trusting Vish which you extend for Vik here when you say he believes her because she claims to have reformed.

Did Vik ever wonder how will RoTu steal a grown up man like himself from his biological mother using money power???? A child was helpless ... a man who is capable of earning his own money cant protect his mother????

Kaise bakwas logic hai ye???

And if thats the case why did RoTu and Mannat sign off everything to never claim it back????

At this point in the story... it wasnt identity issue but became a money issue... why has Vik not accepted the Aman Kumar identity when he was so hurt by Salujas???? Up until Ronnie reminded him of that...

The point I have been making past so many days is plainly this.... not every action of Vik can be justified.... and just like you dont expect any growth from Vik until he finds some truth... same goes for the other side.... they know half truths too... DK wont realise how he was played by Aish till he finds out she is alive....

He didnt anticipate that Malla and Vish were capable of pulling that stunt and they aren't even now... it was Aish all together... who is dead for all characters. Malla and Vish were present in SM throughout... so them pulling off a killing is also unbelievable.

Just because Vik cant be justified doesnt mean other side should be pulled down. You cant deny the fact that Vik was influenced more by the fact that Mannat betrayed him with DK and that made him look at everything with a twisted logic... that was his insecurity which was exploited.

When you lot repeat on extending courtesy and understanding for Vik because he doesnt know full truths ... I am asking the same thing for other side.... how is that difficult to understand?????

The yardstick where I differentiate between DK and Vik is Vik and Vik alone should have a growth in his character and not DK. DK is a sidey not ML.

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Yeh bachcha party Kya kar raha hai?!

Has anyone wondered Vik ko sach batate to kya hota????

He would have gone with Vish na... leaving RoTu and possibly Mannat too... since she knew the initial part....

Vish phir bhi use manipulate karti... Agar Mannat saath jaati to Mannat ke against bhadakaati...

How is it different than what she did even now????

And agar Vish ko disown karta tab bhi yahi story rehti... Vish would have still manipulated... maybe even DK then... or turn him against Vik which she did the other way around

Originally posted by: Moor278

Yaar ek hi baat kitni baar likhu main 🤦‍♀️

It was the intentions....

bold... sach gang didnt want Vik to go through what Mannat has gone through... to be told that your mom sold you for money. You are right when you say they could have told the truth with Dadi as witness... but they didnt... when they were the ones on the right side... why???? Because the truth was much much harsher than the lie. Which they wanted to avoid for Vik.

We can rightfully debate on whether he had the right to know... that doesnt what they did was wrong either.

And as audience we dont know for sure how Vik would have reacted.... he might have left all of them and gone to Vish....

Red is the yardstick wala point i mentione to RD .. if Vik can believe Vish who he knows has lied and has met a few days ago... why cant DK... vo unki bio mom hai... extend the same yardstick for both brothers of trusting the mom 🙄

Blue... this doesn't have a logical explanation at all... Ronnie was ready to hand over the property which he did... Malla is a certified liar and criminal... extend the same courtesy to DK trusting Vish which you extend for Vik here when you say he believes her because she claims to have reformed.

Did Vik ever wonder how will RoTu steal a grown up man like himself from his biological mother using money power???? A child was helpless ... a man who is capable of earning his own money cant protect his mother????

Kaise bakwas logic hai ye???

And if thats the case why did RoTu and Mannat sign off everything to never claim it back????

At this point in the story... it wasnt identity issue but became a money issue... why has Vik not accepted the Aman Kumar identity when he was so hurt by Salujas???? Up until Ronnie reminded him of that...

The point I have been making past so many days is plainly this.... not every action of Vik can be justified.... and just like you dont expect any growth from Vik until he finds some truth... same goes for the other side.... they know half truths too... DK wont realise how he was played by Aish till he finds out she is alive....

He didnt anticipate that Malla and Vish were capable of pulling that stunt and they aren't even now... it was Aish all together... who is dead for all characters. Malla and Vish were present in SM throughout... so them pulling off a killing is also unbelievable.

Just because Vik cant be justified doesnt mean other side should be pulled down. You cant deny the fact that Vik was influenced more by the fact that Mannat betrayed him with DK and that made him look at everything with a twisted logic... that was his insecurity which was exploited.

When you lot repeat on extending courtesy and understanding for Vik because he doesnt know full truths ... I am asking the same thing for other side.... how is that difficult to understand?????

The yardstick where I differentiate between DK and Vik is Vik and Vik alone should have a growth in his character and not DK. DK is a sidey not ML.

Sach bol bhi dia hota DK ne Vik ko, aftermath would have still been the same.

By the time DK got to know how b*t*h his mother was, it was too late.

And on top of that Vish played her part of game very well since day 1 of entering SM. She took advantage of Vikrant's anger really well.

Also people of anger management issues are partly responsible for the mess. They need to work on that & cannot always put 100% blame for the mess created.

I actually like having a flawed ML. More relatable. And it's true that upbringing and the entourage does often play a role in how a person shapes up, either unstable or people turn out the exact opposite. We can see this in both Vik and DK. Neetu's over-possessiveness, unstable behaviour plus so much of wealth and cushy comfort has made Vik unstable, gullible, he got it all so easy!

DK, on the other hand, has grown up with a lot of angst, guilt and not knowing the real truth about his mother plus he has chosen the profession he did. So he has grown up as a strong person with a strong moral fibre.

Originally posted by: Ravisadha

Their name is “Sach Gang”, but in reality, they do nothing but lie, hide secrets, and manipulate the truth whenever it suits them.

There is a different sach gang here... maybe ask them ki jhooth Bolney se onscreen sach gang ka exactly kya fayda hua hai

Originally posted by: Daman17

Latest update: Bunty and Dua try to handle a serious situation when a speeding vehicle puts Bunty’s life in danger. Dua shows courage and manages to save him. In the process, she exposes Yuvi’s bullying by using his own arrogance against him. Later, Dua even saves him who had earlier tried to harm her. Meanwhile, Neetu’s condition becomes critical, and her life hangs by a thread. Mannat is forced to make a difficult decision and return to Mumbai. Seeing Neetu so unwell, Mannat breaks down emotionally and promises to fight fate and not give up on her.

Mujhe yeh samajhao, Why are these kids roaming around without adults?

Originally posted by: Moor278

Ditto... 👍

I have been saying this since many days ... the problem is not DK is a good guy.... the problem is he is looking better than Vik.... and neither does the audience trust Mukta that she will give a good redemption to Vik... ye accept nahi kar paa rahe hai log...

I feel contrary since I feel Vik is always protected.... Vik always has to be better than DK tabhi vo ML bola jayega and so far Mukta has always kept a loophole for Vik to save him later on...

Like the birth certificate will come in force now... Mannat never uttered the words pregnant or baby while talking to Vik on the funeral ground... thats the excuse Vik is going to use now.

Writers are giving enough material for Vik to bounce back....

Mukta also knows Adnan has the capability to pull off the track however crap the writing is... 😉

Mannat ke liye ye problem kabhi nahi aayegi kyunki Malla Y dono hi pathetic hai... Mannat is and always will be better than them even with bare minimum writing for her. Her actions need not justification because the other party is extremely horrible.

I myself was not okay when Mannat kidnapped Aish. 😆

Thats why I dont agree when people say Vik is hated by writers or Mukta.... infact writing for him is more difficult than Mannat.

They need to pitch him against Mannat yet have to save him without downgrading Mannat.

Bold: May be not as extreme as hate for vik character from writers but feels like writers aren't interested in vik, manvik anymore,more than writers I feel it's channel's decision....

I as such have no problem with characters and pov of indore side... But I don't understand writers intentions behind the scenes.... Example yesterday's episode or today's episode bts , audience have already seen dhairya loves dua a lot and will protect her till his last breath, audience also have seen why mannat doesn't want vik to know the truth, and how she adores dhairya-dua bond.. then what's the purpose of yesterday's or today's episode....

If they just want to show neetu's stance and that she is selfish .. they could have done it in 4-5 min ...showing neetu's selfishness, dhairya emotional turmoil,mannat confronting neetu.. All this could have been done in few min.... But two elaborate episodes of trashing vik and not just 2 episodes... Since the time indore side saw vik.. We have heard 'n' number of times how vik ousted his parents, how vik rejected his baby.. The later one is not even true from story pov and former is half side of story,so indore side saying all these is right from their pov but what about vik's pov, audience doesn't remember episodes that much in detail so makers have to frequently make audience remember those through characters dialogues...so if they are showing vik rejected baby from indore side pov, then they should make audience remember that it's not true through either vish/aish talks because only they know the truth...,....

Sure what ever is the reason vik ousting his parents without giving them another chance is wrong but atleast giving his side of story people feel he did a mistake and wouldn't judge him to be a outright villian who would love to torture people.. And same way showing vik didn't know about baby will make people feel understand both mannat and vik's pov.... Without showing all this they are just making vik a villian and dk as someone almost perfect...

As I have said I have no issues with dk.... He is a good person with few flaws just like manvik, and did few mistakes pre leap just like vik.... But vik is being pointed out for his mistakes by every character and rightfully so.. but I didn't see any character making dhairya remember his mistakes... Sure dhairya is selfless in supporting mannat&co..... But vik too does the same, he too selflessly supports people but he does have flaws but so does dhairya... it feels like they want to highlight dhairya with brushing all his mistakes and flaws under carpet and just show his good side to proceed on with dhairya-mannat angle ,sorry for being a little negative but seeing upcoming bts and episodes it felt like that.. As if dhairya-mannat-neetu confrontation is not enough, we also have ronnie getting scared of vik and wanting him to go back, and also dhairya-ronnie scene where he thanks dhairya for his selfless support where as the vik whom they loved all their life ousted them......

Again saying the same, that I have no issues with character's or their pov.. I understand dhairya-mannat-ronnie's stance from their character pov... It's the loop sided writing I have issues with,if they are showing indore side pov, show vik side pov too... Even after showing vik side story, vik will still come off as more on the wrong but atleast people will understand that vik made mistakes but is not a outright villian who torments/torture people...because right now with single sided narrative vik is coming across a villian..

And as you said @Moor maybe makers have good story to tell from vik's pov too and it will start once they go to mumbai... But currently the way things are progressing I have very little hopes of that happening