Mannat Har Khushi Paane Ki: Episode Discussion Thread - 38 - Page 36

Originally posted by: Rdigest

Moor I don't understand where I said Mannat is not the victim nor where I trivialized her trauma. We already established Mannat is a victim and under severe trauma multiple times since the wedding episodes aired. I was trying to establish as much as Mannat is a victim, Vikrant is a victim as well since this was never discussed on the forum. All we discussed was how to torture Vikrant and how he should suffer.

Bold... come on RD... NEVER ???????

dont make blanket statements like these .... nobody has said Vik is not suffering ... infact everyone wants his redemption and realisation and for him to live with Mannat RoTu and get Duas love ... isn't this why you keep saying DK is living his brothers life???? A sly acknowledgement that Indore family is a happy place and where Vik should be?????

Ye to kabhi nahi bola kisine ki Vik victim nahi hai.... 😐

Pink was for fun as well if he doesnt suffer how will he realise his faults....

Say what you want... the whole fiasco stems from the fact that Vik always asked for proofs from Mannat.... Aish counted on that and manufactured it for her benefit.

And unless you forget... the video that was played in the wedding was itself a staged video... it was well planned by the witches.... had the video not existed... there was no way to prove Vishs side.... it was created to give an upper hand to Vish knowing Vik will trust that and burst out... his later anger.. insecurity on Mannat and his relationship... and manipulation of a mere picture were just exploitation of Viks weaknesses....

Sach gang were as taken aback as Vik was.. they didnt knew about the existence of the video .. they were trying to sametofy the raita video created.

A counter question since I am DKs defence lawyer.. has Vik given a thought to why Vish would make such dirty allegations on her son???? Is that the upbringing she has given him???? Why doesnt she as his mother counter that my son doesnt have such loose morals!!!

Cool can confirm if she has blamed only Mannat in this or has she blamed DK too???? The FB makes it look like she blames DK too????

Originally posted by: Moor278

Bold... come on RD... NEVER ???????

dont make blanket statements like these .... nobody has said Vik is not suffering ... infact everyone wants his redemption and realisation and for him to live with Mannat RoTu and get Duas love ... isn't this why you keep saying DK is living his brothers life???? A sly acknowledgement that Indore family is a happy place and where Vik should be?????

Ye to kabhi nahi bola kisine ki Vik victim nahi hai.... 😐

Pink was for fun as well if he doesnt suffer how will he realise his faults....

Say what you want... the whole fiasco stems from the fact that Vik always asked for proofs from Mannat.... Aish counted on that and manufactured it for her benefit.

And unless you forget... the video that was played in the wedding was itself a staged video... it was well planned by the witches.... had the video not existed... there was no way to prove Vishs side.... it was created to give an upper hand to Vish knowing Vik will trust that and burst out... his later anger.. insecurity on Mannat and his relationship... and manipulation of a mere picture were just exploitation of Viks weaknesses....

Sach gang were as taken aback as Vik was.. they didnt knew about the existence of the video .. they were trying to sametofy the raita video created.

A counter question since I am DKs defence lawyer.. has Vik given a thought to why Vish would make such dirty allegations on her son???? Is that the upbringing she has given him???? Why doesnt she as his mother counter that my son doesnt have such loose morals!!!

Cool can confirm if she has blamed only Mannat in this or has she blamed DK too???? The FB makes it look like she blames DK too????

Vish always put the blame on Mannat… she instigated Vik saying Mannat trapped DK .. and DK kaise uski baatoon mein as gaya…

Vish was the one who put that in Viks mind that Mannat was two timing Vik with his brother… Vik without doubt believed her.

We all equally want Vik to get out of the dungeon he is in.., but he isn’t opening his eyes… I feel bad for him but that doesn’t mean DCP is supposed to be brought down. Both statements are true yes Vik needs redemption and someone who cares for him truly cares AND DCP has really cared for Rotu. Mannat and Dua. Infact ek bhai ki galti usneh sambhali hai

Originally posted by: Kidult104

red is what i feel and posted a analysis on Shazia’s post. Bold i agree too.

I guess even they are getting decent trps and responses due to indore setup thats why they have stretched indore episodes even made sure to add Vikrant into the mix by making Yuvi sick. Indore setup truly has homey, domestic vibes which were absent from the show. The star of this side is definitely Bunty I love how Dua's entire household treats him like their own, there is no difference between him & Dua. There is calmness and normalcy in them and maybe thats what Mannat wants to protect. Due to her past trauma, she is now holding onto this peaceful life and doesnt wanna let it go. Vikrant is def a destructor for her somehow because ever since he came into her life again, her calm life has started messing up.

I agree about consistency, esp about leads. Though I understand where Mannat is coming from, I still want a good monologue from her regarding the past situation. I have now understood Mannat's stance somewhat, correct me if I'm wrong. Mannat went to tell Vikrant about pregnancy, he knew she is pregnant with his child but he denied to accept the kid and instead accused her for having an affair with dcp, so subsequently, he questioned that kid's paternity and assumed that the kid is Dk's. This is what i mentioned to Shazia, no exact dialogues but him saying main kaafi nahi tha mere bhai k sath bhi, tumse judi koi bhi cheez mujhse judi nahi ho sakti and last mara hua pyar zinda nahi ho sakta. These all are accusations and even after this incident she recorded voice message where she specified hamare pyar ki nishani itself explains that Mannat thinks he knows about pregnancy but it’s DK’s child and divorce papers stamped her fate and proved her fears right. Later meeting her after 7 years same accusations and I feel that’s why writers deliberately not keeping any bond between Vik and Dua since he believes its DK’s child. This is what Neetu said in promo also that main Vik ko sachai bata k rahungi, Indore people think same that Vik knows about pregnancy but not him being the father of a child. In all this it’s indicated that he didn’t trusted her loyalty but in some dialogues he contradict his own statements which is again showing his subconscious mind and brain not aligned in a same direction So now Mannat wants him to keep that MU because now she fears if any third party goes and makes him believe that the child is yours, he might change his mind to accept her or just snatch her to teach Mannat a lesson, thats why she wants to keep Dua away from Vikrant. I just want a monologue from her to confirm all this.

Vikrant I have no words when it comes to consistency. He is the most inconsistent character of the show. Before meeting Mannat he acted as if she abandoned him, now while talking with Yashika he made it clear that he didnt look for any of his family because 7 years ago he himself broke the relations. He is now acting as if Mannat has come to destroy his life but last time I checked he wanted to answer from her and thats why he was seeking her in an event. While talking with Vishwas, he said he is married but his wife aint like Vishwas' but if so, then why does he carry a girl friend with him? If he is accusing Mannat of moving on, hasnt he done the same?

My wish is, they should write manvik's monologue's and confrontations little better. I know they wanna drag the MU but dont make them sound dumb by giving them confusing dialogues.

Moor show me 1 post on the forum other than the obvious members (I won't name the 2-3 members I can think off ) who are defending Vikrant daily and presenting his case as a victim? Infact I just read a post taking indirect dig at my posts without quoting me because I am calling Vikrant a victim like Mannat and also calling out DK actions.

All we see is posts bashing Vikrant's every action where as justifying Mannat's every action including lying on BC, not wanting to tell Dua ever about her real dad as her trauma and fear.

DK, I don't care about him , he is a criminal for me big or small crimes doesn't really change the outcome of his actions similar to Y who is also a criminal for me

I disagree with Vikrant's hypocrisy, CA of Mannat as much as I disagree with Mannat's lies and her supporting RoTu.

I will leave it here, since We each will continue to have different perspectives.

Originally posted by: Rdigest

Moor show me 1 post on the forum other than the obvious members (I won't name the 2-3 members I can think off ) who are defending Vikrant daily and presenting his case as a victim? Infact I just read a post taking indirect dig at my posts without quoting me because I am calling Vikrant a victim like Mannat and also calling out DK actions.

All we see is posts bashing Vikrant's every action where as justifying Mannat's every action including lying on BC, not wanting to tell Dua ever about her real dad as her trauma and fear.

DK, I don't care about him , he is a criminal for me big or small crimes doesn't really change the outcome of his actions similar to Y who is also a criminal for me

I disagree with Vikrant's hypocrisy, CA of Mannat as much as I disagree with Mannat's lies and her supporting RoTu.

I will leave it here, since We each will continue to have different perspectives.

Lol now I wish instead of Shruti, Neetu should have died.

Sab fasaad ki jadd yehi aurat hai...

Fcuking selfish lady. When Mannat kept on begging pleading to tell the truth tab she did not agree, tried slitting her wrists & EBed Mannat & ab 7 years later, bhaag bhaag ke usko apne bete se milna hai to tell the truth of Dua...

(If Mannat wanted she could have told the truth herself but we know what would have been the end result even with proofs so she wanted RoTu to tell the truth themselves)

I actually want her to come face to face to Vikrant & get extremely humiliated by him. She deserves it....

Izzat, safety yeh sab usko raas nai aa rahi...

(She deserves to meet her son, Maa-bete ka milan hona chaiye but not right now...)

You didnt say that.... you said NEVER..... never implies we never thought Vik was a victim.... which is not the case...

My point to you is... why do you think Vik needs to be defended right now???? What has he done (in the past 10-12 episodes) that needs defending....

His trauma his pain .... even his anger everyone understands... but his actions cant be defended ... not in the current track... or more specifically since he has landed in Indore.

At every point in the story there will be someone who is absolutely right and someone who wont.... doesnt mean the character has gone down the drains..... isn't that the whole point of a story where characters evolve?????

I myself defended Vik even during the wedding when he was trusting his own memories... even though I too knew what Mannat is going to go through (pregnancy and Shrutis death)... because he was right at that point.... but not everything can be defended...

Exactly what Mannat told him on funeral ground... your anger is justified... not the allegations... why do you gloss over that?

characters are usually larger than life but they too are presented as humans who makes mistakes... if one team can... why cant the other.... the larger point will always remain the intentions...

Did Vik intended to hurt RoTu and Mannat ever? Dont think so... but he did ... didnt he?

Did RoTu Mannat wanted to hurt Vik... but they did... didnt they?

When you repeatedly say extend the courtesy to both sides... thats what I mean too....

Story will evolve... show end thodi na ho raha hai... have some patience bhai 😐

This is the same woman who was rueing that she didnt take DK along and separated the 2 brothers and saved him from Vish....

Aaj vahi DK se problem hai because he didnt let her meet Vik

Vaise Mannat ne jab drugging ka sach bataya tha tab Vik ne use ghar se Bahar nikal tha... kya tab believe kiya tha jo ab karega?

Originally posted by: Rdigest

All we see is posts bashing Vikrant's every action where as justifying Mannat's every action including lying on BC, not wanting to tell Dua ever about her real dad as her trauma and fear.

C'mon Rdigest, Vikrant ki bashing pre-leap marriage events & post leap mei zyada hua hai....

All the events before that which happened, usmei most of the time in all the threads we have somewhat concluded that Mannat should not have interfered into their lives considering boss-employee relationship they share, even after going thru endless humiliation..

Post their acknowledgement of each other's love, any partner would expect some amount of trust (no 1 is expecting a blind trust) & Mannat was no way wrong with her expectation but still she kept on getting humiliated, bashed left & right by Vikrant even after showing proof in some cases...

So the assumption that only Vik is getting bashed in every post is not right..

Originally posted by: Moor278

This is the same woman who was rueing that she didnt take DK along and separated the 2 brothers and saved him from Vish....

Aaj vahi DK se problem hai because he didnt let her meet Vik

Vaise Mannat ne jab drugging ka sach bataya tha tab Vik ne use ghar se Bahar nikal tha... kya tab believe kiya tha jo ab karega?

Wahi toh...

For a second, maan lete hai Mannat ne khud jaake hi bol dia about the birth truth to Vikrant that too with proofs, he would have still blasted her & throw her out, affair with DK allegations would have still happened as Vish would have tried to counter Mannat's allegations angering Vikrant even more...

So whose loss it would have been..again Mannat..

All over again...

And also when Aman kaand happened Mannat was not even born so more than her it was RoTu's & DKs sole responsibility to tell the truth...not Mannat's

Main thing is will he believe Mannat if even one of the witches around him say Mannat is lying?

At this point, if Arzoo says Mannat ka aura bol Rahi hai ki voh jhoot bol rahi hai, he will believe her !!

It’s the stunted writing at this point. I don’t know when they are going to change it.

And I agree, we know enough about Mannat’s side, we need to move to Mumbai, but thinking of that bhoot Bangla, I’m getting goosebumps. Please Babaji, let Mannat and Co stay outside SM in Mumbai.