Mannat Har Khushi Paane Ki: Episode Discussion Thread - 38 - Page 35

Originally posted by: Rdigest

DK, I am done with his character after he pretended to be an honest cop in the last few episodes and like this wasn't enough per BTS he is going to be a victim again and this time abused by his partner in xyz Neetu 🙄

Bold 1 - Vikrant isn't broken with the truth as much, but more so because Mannat not just lied to him, but kept supporting RoTu and DK until the last minute, including after his memories were back.

Thats the problem na... yes he was hurt... does he really think they wanted to do that? Did he try to listen? Sure we can say they left immediately and he felt abandoned. But isn't this all stems from trusting the other group which 'he' knows were not trust worthy enough. Vish herself had confessed that she lied to get close to him and then there was Malla... was RoTu Mannats fault that big to be thrown out of the house? In the end it did not become an identity issue... rather a money issue. Had it been identity... Vik would have left the house with Vish as Aman and not vice versa.

Bold 2- I would cribbed about all the lies, but still passed this off until I heard her conversation with DK about never revealing to Dua who her real father was. This tells us Mannat doesn't realize what her mistake was in the whole destruction. It doesn't matter Ronnie put his foot down to tell Dua the truth anymore, because we know what she was planning to do if Ronnie didn't overhear their conversation.

She did agree... but her recent encounters with Vik has made her rethink her decision. How is it wrong when even you and everyone else agrees that Dua is not safe with Vik. Here I include the audience perception favouring Mannat since we know the witches will harm Dua. And Vik being the gullible fellow wont understand this.

You keep saying she is making a mistake.. but from her POV she is right... just like we cant expect Vik to grow up or have a realization without knowing some truths... how will Mannat do too???? Even she doesnt know Vik was unaware of the child... didnt send the papers... what good is going to come out when you have to tell the child that your father has disowned you? That too a 7 year old. Mannat and Vik couldnt handle it as adults... what makes you think Dua will understand?

She doesnt even understand basic biology on how babies are born.

Bold 3- I agree until he gets his anger in control Dua shouldn't be with him. . However, we are forgetting truth gang brought him to this condition and they don't even realize their mistakes yet. He is stuck in a limbo with partial memories from his childhood accident, the truth which was revealed and no answers?

They did realise their mistakes pre leap and asked for forgiveness. Pleaded and begged. Mannat tried her best to bring out the alternate truth. Even went to tell him about the pregnancy inspite of the humiliation. Had Shruti not died, they would have patched up... how do we discard the trauma Mannat faced and how she feels after going through all that? Her anger is well justified too if she feels Vik didnt want anything to do with her. That sense of abandonment which she felt all her life is going to pass to Dua and she wants to avoid that for time being... ye galat kaise hai? Aren't parents supposed to take decisions for children till they are of a sensible age?

Bold 4- I understand this and only pointed out what the characters were aware off and how the writers are making them ignore these to make the story lopsided.

It is not lopsided. I dont feel it is... Vik is behaving that way for a reason.. to show his trauma. Its not the way Mannats been shown... but clearly he is traumatized... his words dont match his actions... heck his words dont match each other... he changes his thoughts every given day.... thats not a sign of stable man.

And I dont think he is being portrayed as villain just because DK is hallowed. Viks pain is very well established. His story will unravel when the scene shifts to Mumbai.

Tab isi tarah se bawal hoga jab too much vamps dikhengi 🤦‍♀️

Response in red.

Originally posted by: Rdigest

Cool after many days found your post to be referring to all characters equally so thought of commenting

Bold 1- no one did actually, not me and I dislike the character and how she was presented as Yashoda after the truth reveal & every crime of her was defended to Vikrant which drove him further over the enget. Infact both Ronnie and Neetu deserve every punishment all their crimes and I don't even feel bad Vikrant took all their property. Property part I see it with the same perspective I judged DK when he told Mannat, Vish wants all the property just like you got from ARS, same logic Vikrant presented.

Bold 2- lets assume they did everything for Vikrant and his happiness. what was their long term plan with Vish and Malla who knew the truth ? Were they ever planning to tell Vikrant or was their plan to deceive him through out his life?

Bold 3 - this is completely wrong of Vikrant considering he already married her, spent a night with her. I am still waiting to see what they are going to show or this will be forgotten since he was shocked to see them being addressed by Dua.

Bold 4- We know Malla has not changed , for Vikrant she apologized for her past mistakes. From what I am seeing this is just like they showed Mannat and DK forgiving Neetu and Ronnie for their crimes because they apologized, isn't it? Infact if you remember Vish after so many crimes requested DK she wanted to see the wedding and he was the one who requested Mannat to let her stay.

Bold 5- I hate Y and the actress if you haven't read my posts 🙈 so I watch with the urge to 👊 my screen everytime the actress is on screen so may have missed some cringe not all though. But I understand the hypocrisy you are referring to about Vikrant allowing Y to do everything, so he shouldn't be calling out Mannat for anything she does with her life.

You don’t feel bad about Vikrant taking their property but if you think Vikrant as a character is to be upheld than why didn’t he leave with Vish?

2 - what was their plan? Their plan was to save Vikrant from lifetime of hurt. This is why I am happy Vikrant is with Malla and Vish who don’t the a damn about his peace of mind. So like you are happy about property I think Vik deserves being around Malla and Vish.

Mallas crimes were far more heinous than Ronnie and Neetu hiding the truth. I wouldn’t even compare forgiving Rotu vs forgiving Malla. Malla molested him, she used sexual abuse as excuse to marry him, she did fake engagement to get Vikrant and so many….. forgiving somebody you know had good intentions Vs forgiving someone who did an actual crime! Come on!!!

RD... Agar crimes ke liye punishment hota na iss TV show main to Vik would have been in jail for not maintaining safe working environment for his women employees... might have spent few days in jail and probably out on bail... mezbani pe lock laga hota... and all this would have happened pre 100 episodes

there is still no CCTV in mezbani after 7 years 😂

Ignore DCP ke 'crimes' in the name of creative license when even bigger crimes have not faced punishment

I am worried about their TRPs, if they don't move the story forward soon. Very obviously, TRPs are the only yardstick for them. They have no competition in the 7:30 slot currently.

Unfortunately this is their pattern, they drag a track or a character POV for far too long till the TRP starts falling. Whereas other shows immediately start a change in track. I don't know if it's complacency or over confidence.

What I am seeing, are very gradual changes in / around Vikrant:

• Yuvi for all his brattishness, did ask him pertinent questions yesterday. Yuvi has never seen a mother figure for himself. The khichdi he was eating was Mannat's, so maybe sometime in the future he will be integrated?
• He asked Vik bluntly about Vish, that he had never seen her do anything like this. He made Vik think.
• I understand Vik's conflict where Neetu is concerned. Can he forgive her for the drugs? Even if he forgives her for lying? But will this conflict make him got to meet Neetu or at least check on her?
• Kumar has heard Yashika's conversation. He will remember it.

If Mannat is happy with her family, DK is Dua's baba, Vik is happy with Yuvi, impressed with yashika, and may even agree for marriage, if Yuvi insists, then the show is over. If each person is justified in their own POV, then there's no conflict, and the story is over.

Let everyone be happy in their space!!

Really need some action from Vikrant's side. Not becasue of any other reason than to move the story forward.

Originally posted by: Coolmeg

You are forgetting it wasn’t the truth gang who brought Vikrant to his anger state… it was Vish and Malla who played that game on him with a video of half truth. it was Vish who has been lying about what she did.

You are putting the blame on so called truth gang when they were the one screaming the “truth” that Dadi was drugged put in a old age home by Vish they were screaming got the nurse as proof that Vish was lying she was the one who caused his fathers death… they were screaming that it was Vish who sold him off for money. Vikrant didn’t believe on any truth.
Despite of being thrown out of the house, Mannat was the one who went back to Vikrant Saluja to tell the good news about their baby.
You have to go back and watch all those episodes to pass judgement on Mannat and DCP.

for the “truth gang” the divorce papers were sent by Vikrant and Vikrant is the one who rejected their baby on the pretense of Mannat having an affair with DCP. Even after 7 years he still thinks Dua is DCP and mannats kid. Is blaming Mannat on how easily she moved on.
what reason does Mannat have to tell Dua the truth at this age? What purpose would it serve in their lives? Just because some audience can’t tackle that DCP has been a good father? It’s not like Vikrant has given them a reason to allow them to let him come in Duas life. He is still on his high horse why would as a mother who was rejected by the guy go and ruin the child’s life deliberately?

Until the truth of divorce, Yuvi, Aish killing Shruthi and the fact that his brother has not crossed the line with Mannat doesn’t come out there is nothing that can be done to defend Vikrant or blame Mannat, DCP and Ronnie.

Actually we were (I am including Myself first since I did make posts about this ) so focused on making. Mannat the victim because of her pregnancy and Shurti death BTS leak, we are forgetting as much as Mannat is a victim, Vikrant is a victim of the same game which Vish played and truth gang walked into their trap with their overconfidence and led Vikrant into the same trap.

Bold - did Vikrant get to hear the truth from Dadi? We are judging him why didn't he believe the matron, my question would be with his partial memories back where he clearly saw Neetu, him believing Neetu killed his dad, truth gang lying to his face multiple times , why should he believe the matron without any proofs which shows Dadi was being drugged by Vish? Did DK believe Mannat until he himself spoke to Dadi , no right?

Neetu was drugging him which came out aswell and they defended this right? How should Vikrant react to all all these lies, deception where the one person he turned towards to confirm if what was being said was truth was still defending RoTu?

Bold 3- this is something I don't understand, why do you believe audience don't like him because he is a good father. I can speak for myself which I was responding to Moor earlier, I lost all respect for this character the day he moved ARS to hospital, the day he started fire on KC, the day he defended Vish and Malla after he found Mannat locked in a trunk and Vikrant traumatized with the skit. After this his character just kept falling into deeper pits for me each episode for everything he did.

Finally he leaves the same brother with his vicious manipulative mother whom he willing trapped by enabling Vish once he got his memories back. These are the reasons I dislike DK character.

Originally posted by: Moor278

RD... Agar crimes ke liye punishment hota na iss TV show main to Vik would have been in jail for not maintaining safe working environment for his women employees... might have spent few days in jail and probably out on bail... mezbani pe lock laga hota... and all this would have happened pre 100 episodes

there is still no CCTV in mezbani after 7 years 😂

Ignore DCP ke 'crimes' in the name of creative license when even bigger crimes have not faced punishment

I agree his license should be cancelled and if the court decides he needs punishment for no employee safety he should get jailed. That place is a crime hub.

Arrey baba no need to explain things as they are to certain DK and probably Mannat haters so much!

One look at Vikrant's entourage, a bunch of leeches, murderers, rapists and worse, that he has voluntarily chosen, is enough to see how messed up this guy is and one look at Mannat's entourage that she had to keep with her because vikrant threw them out (except for Neetu who has always been unstable and untrustworthy and immature as hell), and the way Dua has turned out, is enough to see how sane the environment is. DK has played an anchor's role and has been most selfless.

Had I been Mannat, I would want nothing to do with Vikrant ever.

He has never trusted her, has only trusted the perpetrators of crimes, is so stupid he cannot even recognize Aish and she herself said Mannat would immediately uncover the truth, and is incapable of seeing everything playing under his very nose. Unfortunately our ML is coming across throughout as a highly immature, clueless and unstable person.

Dua is far better off where she is. She is secure and has people who can protect her.

Imagine her with her biological father in SM. Do you even believe he can keep her secure? He is fully capable of entrusting her to a Vishakha or a Yashika. Plus there's Yuvi. She will be damaged beyond repair.

The only rewards Vikrant can think of are stuff that money can buy. ill-gotten wealth that is technically not even him since he has washed his hands off Rotu as his parents but still chooses to keep their property and their name and squander all their money!

Uffffff rant over for now!

And Yashika calling him baby, hugging him all the time and his allowing all this is ok but mere believing that Mannat has moved before verifying the truth and holding that against her is ok?

He has given more proof of being with someone and having moved on if you ask me.

Double standards much???

Originally posted by: Coolmeg

You don’t feel bad about Vikrant taking their property but if you think Vikrant as a character is to be upheld than why didn’t he leave with Vish?

2 - what was their plan? Their plan was to save Vikrant from lifetime of hurt. This is why I am happy Vikrant is with Malla and Vish who don’t the a damn about his peace of mind. So like you are happy about property I think Vik deserves being around Malla and Vish.

Mallas crimes were far more heinous than Ronnie and Neetu hiding the truth. I wouldn’t even compare forgiving Rotu vs forgiving Malla. Malla molested him, she used sexual abuse as excuse to marry him, she did fake engagement to get Vikrant and so many….. forgiving somebody you know had good intentions Vs forgiving someone who did an actual crime! Come on!!!

I am confused, so now we agree all are criminals and we will compare the intensity of crimes and who did a bigger crime than the other ? Based on this Vikrant is at fault for forgiving Malla but not Mannat and DK for forgiving RoTu for the accident, buying Vikrant, drugging Vikrant? For me henious is murder, rape and rest all crimes.

I think this is why they have cops and judicial system so audience or general people do not judge who is right or wrong , forgive people and everyone gets punished based on their crimes .

2. Did they save Vikrant with their lies and deception? No, they led him straight into the trap and left him there after he got his memories back. If they would have acted with a little sense they would have realized they cannot stop Vish and Malla their entire life and Vikrant would have been saved from Vish.

Bold I am confused, didn't DK give exactly the same reason when Mannat told him Vish was only there for property? DK told Mannat Vish is getting the property like she did from ARS as security, so same logic is not applicable when Vikrant believes Vish and asks for the property?

Originally posted by: Moor278

Response in red.

Moor I don't understand where I said Mannat is not the victim nor where I trivialized her trauma. We already established Mannat is a victim and under severe trauma multiple times since the wedding episodes aired. I was trying to establish as much as Mannat is a victim, Vikrant is a victim as well since this was never discussed on the forum. All we discussed was how to torture Vikrant and how he should suffer.