Mannat Har Khushi Paane Ki: Episode Discussion Thread - 38 - Page 34

Originally posted by: Rdigest

Moor not sure I have a response if none of these are crimes since DK is a cop who is supposed to withhold law. He can get suspended and jailed for what all he did. He is no less than ARS or Vish or Malla just because he didn't commit a murder yet.

Any experts in police or law can speak but this is my knowledge of Indian law unless they have corrupt connections and can escape for all these crimes.

For Mannat I am going to ask what is in good faith for Vikrant mean? What is good for grown up Vikrant and now Dua once she grows up, who decides this ?

This is a TV show yaar.... not real world.... some things will happen for dramatic purposes....

So yes DK can be suspended... but he wont because they need him to drive the story ahead. 😂

Vaise DK suspend hota to Aish marti nahi... 😝

Good faith meaning... DK saw Vik was happy in his life as Vikrant Saluja.. he didnt want to disrupt that... isn't that whats happening, Vik is completely broken, isn't this exact same thing sach gang wanted to avoid???? ...

same goes for Dua.. she is a mere child... her parents (her mom) wishes to withhold that information from her till she grows up or till her biological father grows up.... how is that wrong???? The father has not presented a good picture so far.

Tell me honestly... what good can come out of Dua knowing Vik is her father when even the audience agrees he is not stable enough to be a father?????

Secondly.... this is a TV show.... Dua will know ManVik will patchup... Dua will accept Vik eventually.... thats how the story will end.... who said its going to be a final decision that Dua wont know 🤔

I will repeat what I have seen saying to you since many days.... characters wont behave the way we want because they know only half truths whereas we know everything. Let it play out completely na 🤔

Technically within 21 days of birth ... so yeah creative license again

They did hire a small baby for birth scene... so they could have done the BC thing there itself.

But they didn't to highlight that Mannat might be suffering from PPD like some of us feel. DK stepped up in that moment holding all of them together.

In blaming Mannat and DCP …. Why is the audience forgetting Neetu is the only and biggest culprit here.. next is Vish…. now even Aish and Malla are sidekick it seems…
Mannat koh bashing only coz she hid Vik birth truth that too initiated by Neetu and then DCP asked not to reveal because he didn’t want his brother to feel the pain of being “sold”.

Why has the audience forgotten the reason behind hiding the truth …. So their intentions were not to hurt Vikrant.

Vikrant keh hate or doubt on Mannat and DCP ka kya reason hai…. Just a photo that too what Vish showed him. I get the he was upset at Ronnie and Neetu hiding the truth; Mannat also hid the truth… but the price was to be throw out of the house walk out on wedding, character assaination on Mannat and his elder brother. If Vikrant was so truthful and honest and sincere why not leave the home than kicking Ronnie and Neetu out? Agar Itni khudari hai toh you should have left with your Vishakha mom! Vikrants biggest mistake is to believe Vish Malla Aish in a blink of an eye. When he knows Malla has done so many bad things.
I am unable to give him benefit of doubt keeping Yashika around him… I mean ek side he is blaming Mannat on moving on, like come on dude look at yourself - you had vacations with her; allow her to hug you and so many things … what right does he have to CA Mannat.

Originally posted by: Coolmeg

In blaming Mannat and DCP …. Why is the audience forgetting Neetu is the only and biggest culprit here.. next is Vish…. now even Aish and Malla are sidekick it seems…
Mannat koh bashing only coz she hid Vik birth truth that too initiated by Neetu and then DCP asked not to reveal because he didn’t want his brother to feel the pain of being “sold”.

Why has the audience forgotten the reason behind hiding the truth …. So their intentions were not to hurt Vikrant.

Vikrant keh hate or doubt on Mannat and DCP ka kya reason hai…. Just a photo that too what Vish showed him. I get the he was upset at Ronnie and Neetu hiding the truth; Mannat also hid the truth… but the price was to be throw out of the house walk out on wedding, character assaination on Mannat and his elder brother. If Vikrant was so truthful and honest and sincere why not leave the home than kicking Ronnie and Neetu out? Agar Itni khudari hai toh you should have left with your Vishakha mom! Vikrants biggest mistake is to believe Vish Malla Aish in a blink of an eye. When he knows Malla has done so many bad things.
I am unable to give him benefit of doubt keeping Yashika around him… I mean ek side he is blaming Mannat on moving on, like come on dude look at yourself - you had vacations with her; allow her to hug you and so many things … what right does he have to CA Mannat.

He still lives as Vikrant Saluja... spending Ronnie's wealth on worthless people... gets upset when Ro calls him Aman Kumar... hasnt bothered to enquire for Neetu though he misses her every moment... kal to Yuvi ne bhi Vish Vik bond question kiya 😁

But yeah sure... call out DCPs motive because the audience cannot handle that there could be a guy around FL with platonic intentions 😁

Originally posted by: Moor278

This is a TV show yaar.... not real world.... some things will happen for dramatic purposes....

So yes DK can be suspended... but he wont because they need him to drive the story ahead. 😂

Vaise DK suspend hota to Aish marti nahi... 😝

Good faith meaning... DK saw Vik was happy in his life as Vikrant Saluja.. he didnt want to disrupt that... isn't that whats happening, Vik is completely broken, isn't this exact same thing sach gang wanted to avoid???? ...

same goes for Dua.. she is a mere child... her parents (her mom) wishes to withhold that information from her till she grows up or till her biological father grows up.... how is that wrong???? The father has not presented a good picture so far.

Tell me honestly... what good can come out of Dua knowing Vik is her father when even the audience agrees he is not stable enough to be a father?????

Secondly.... this is a TV show.... Dua will know ManVik will patchup... Dua will accept Vik eventually.... thats how the story will end.... who said its going to be a final decision that Dua wont know 🤔

I will repeat what I have seen saying to you since many days.... characters wont behave the way we want because they know only half truths whereas we know everything. Let it play out completely na 🤔

DK, I am done with his character after he pretended to be an honest cop in the last few episodes and like this wasn't enough per BTS he is going to be a victim again and this time abused by his partner in xyz Neetu 🙄

Bold 1 - Vikrant isn't broken with the truth as much, but more so because Mannat not just lied to him, but kept supporting RoTu and DK until the last minute, including after his memories were back.

Bold 2- I would cribbed about all the lies, but still passed this off until I heard her conversation with DK about never revealing to Dua who her real father was. This tells us Mannat doesn't realize what her mistake was in the whole destruction. It doesn't matter Ronnie put his foot down to tell Dua the truth anymore, because we know what she was planning to do if Ronnie didn't overhear their conversation.

Bold 3- I agree until he gets his anger in control Dua shouldn't be with him. . However, we are forgetting truth gang brought him to this condition and they don't even realize their mistakes yet. He is stuck in a limbo with partial memories from his childhood accident, the truth which was revealed and no answers?

Bold 4- I understand this and only pointed out what the characters were aware off and how the writers are making them ignore these to make the story lopsided.

Originally posted by: Daman17

I personally like the Indore setup. What I don’t like is the lack of consistency in the writing. They are messing up in many areas of storytelling, which is quite obvious due to various reasons but it does make the narrative feel a bit disconnected. I know that once the story moves to Mumbai all the vamps will be waiting to take away screen time being clingy and cringe. I just hope Mukta learns from past mistakes and focuses on precision in writing without losing the character arcs. Also, I hope she maintains positivity with the addition of my lovely Dua and bunty, whom I am going to miss watching. I love dua the most, especially the domestic warmth in her scenes with everyone. This is something that was missing in Mannat’s writing from the beginning. I really like this addition, credit where it’s due😉😂

I guess even they are getting decent trps and responses due to indore setup thats why they have stretched indore episodes even made sure to add Vikrant into the mix by making Yuvi sick. Indore setup truly has homey, domestic vibes which were absent from the show. The star of this side is definitely Bunty I love how Dua's entire household treats him like their own, there is no difference between him & Dua. There is calmness and normalcy in them and maybe thats what Mannat wants to protect. Due to her past trauma, she is now holding onto this peaceful life and doesnt wanna let it go. Vikrant is def a destructor for her somehow because ever since he came into her life again, her calm life has started messing up.

I agree about consistency, esp about leads. Though I understand where Mannat is coming from, I still want a good monologue from her regarding the past situation. I have now understood Mannat's stance somewhat, correct me if I'm wrong. Mannat went to tell Vikrant about pregnancy, he knew she is pregnant with his child but he denied to accept the kid and instead accused her for having an affair with dcp, so subsequently, he questioned that kid's paternity and assumed that the kid is Dk's. So now Mannat wants him to keep that MU because now she fears if any third party goes and makes him believe that the child is yours, he might change his mind to accept her or just snatch her to teach Mannat a lesson, thats why she wants to keep Dua away from Vikrant. I just want a monologue from her to confirm all this.

Vikrant I have no words when it comes to consistency. He is the most inconsistent character of the show. Before meeting Mannat he acted as if she abandoned him, now while talking with Yashika he made it clear that he didnt look for any of his family because 7 years ago he himself broke the relations. He is now acting as if Mannat has come to destroy his life but last time I checked he wanted to answer from her and thats why he was seeking her in an event. While talking with Vishwas, he said he is married but his wife aint like Vishwas' but if so, then why does he carry a girl friend with him? If he is accusing Mannat of moving on, hasnt he done the same?

My wish is, they should write manvik's monologue's and confrontations little better. I know they wanna drag the MU but dont make them sound dumb by giving them confusing dialogues.

Originally posted by: Moor278

He still lives as Vikrant Saluja... spending Ronnie's wealth on worthless people... gets upset when Ro calls him Aman Kumar... hasnt bothered to enquire for Neetu though he misses her every moment... kal to Yuvi ne bhi Vish Vik bond question kiya 😁

But yeah sure... call out DCPs motive because the audience cannot handle that there could be a guy around FL with platonic intentions 😁

Exactly…. He is steps away from Neetu … he saw Ronnie knows they are all living together. He was literally at the door step the other day he didn’t even once think of meeting Neetu … Wah! Kya beta hai!

Originally posted by: Moor278

As much as we can criticize Neetu... it was always expected she will side with Vik...

There is another angle to this.... the story or rather ManVik are stuck where they think the other has moved on...

Mannat is massively upset with the way Vik behaved on funeral day and what he is doing now... I feel she is rightfully justified in her trauma...

Vik is clearly revengeful on her... the way he is trying to upset her... by filing a case on her to threatening to cancel her food license... none of which makes a good picture of him... so it's logical Mannat would think Vik will snatch Dua from her as revenge and will never let her meet Dua.

That to me is her fear why she keeps repeating I wont let Dua near Vik.

As per her he knows he is the father and has rights (which she accepts privately).

But on Viks side he is still stuck... and feels betrayed by Mannat. He hasnt shown any attachment to Dua... so he has not realised it could be his daughter. Neither is clarity on their own marriage to him... he will change his attitude the moment he finds out DM are not married or Dua is his daughter.

DM fake marriage pretense is known only to RoTu DK and Mannat. Except Neetu no one would be interested to reveal to Vik the fake aspect of it. So Neetu remains the only person who can tell this to Vik.

I feel Neetu will try but wont be able to reveal Duas truth... she can however hint on DM being fake... Vik can do the rest in his anger /frustration /confusion.

That said... DK doesnt deserve the treatment Neetu will give him as per BTS. This is the same guy she wanted to adopt when he agreed to lie for her. And was leaning on him till she didnt have a glimpse of Vik. 🤦‍♀️

I can understand Neetu's yearning for her son and her grief, as she has lost her kid twice, but I do not support her using Dua as some sort of tool to reunite with Vikrant. She is piggybacking on that little kid who has no idea about anything. If she wants to recouncil with Vikrant, get up and walk on your own. Neetu clearly knows Vikrant wont accept her easily on her own, thats why she is using Dua as she knows he will go soft when he will realise he has a child. Expecting empathy and understanding from Neetu is like expecting logic from itv. Both Neetu and Vikrant are same in this dept, they only see their own pain and when things dont go as per them, blame others.

Dcp should be the last person whom neetu should crucify as she has been an epicenter of the mess. He has his share of mistakes but he stepped up to be their support for past 7 years or so. When her son didnt bother to reconnect for 7 years, he was the one who gave her shelter. He along with her ex bahu and husband run around for her health crisis. I always felt she has no attachment with Dua as a grandchild or individual, she is only attached because she sees her as Vikrant's extension and a way to recouncil with him. I clocked this during Mumbai trip. When ronnie, mannat, dk all were worried for Dua's safety, Neetu's only concern was whether Dua reaches to Vikrant or not.

I'm glad Mannat set the record straight. I would've been upset if she would have let go neetu easily. For all these years everyone mollycoddled neetu and fulfilled her whims. Not dcp, but it was her who damaged manvik the most. I'm glad it was Mannat who is the biggest victim of her nonsense called her out.

Originally posted by: Coolmeg

In blaming Mannat and DCP …. Why is the audience forgetting Neetu is the only and biggest culprit here.. next is Vish…. now even Aish and Malla are sidekick it seems…
Mannat koh bashing only coz she hid Vik birth truth that too initiated by Neetu and then DCP asked not to reveal because he didn’t want his brother to feel the pain of being “sold”.

Why has the audience forgotten the reason behind hiding the truth …. So their intentions were not to hurt Vikrant.

Vikrant keh hate or doubt on Mannat and DCP ka kya reason hai…. Just a photo that too what Vish showed him. I get the he was upset at Ronnie and Neetu hiding the truth; Mannat also hid the truth… but the price was to be throw out of the house walk out on wedding, character assaination on Mannat and his elder brother. If Vikrant was so truthful and honest and sincere why not leave the home than kicking Ronnie and Neetu out? Agar Itni khudari hai toh you should have left with your Vishakha mom! Vikrants biggest mistake is to believe Vish Malla Aish in a blink of an eye. When he knows Malla has done so many bad things.
I am unable to give him benefit of doubt keeping Yashika around him… I mean ek side he is blaming Mannat on moving on, like come on dude look at yourself - you had vacations with her; allow her to hug you and so many things … what right does he have to CA Mannat.

Cool after many days found your post to be referring to all characters equally so thought of commenting

Bold 1- no one did actually, not me and I dislike the character and how she was presented as Yashoda after the truth reveal & every crime of her was defended to Vikrant which drove him further over the enget. Infact both Ronnie and Neetu deserve every punishment all their crimes and I don't even feel bad Vikrant took all their property. Property part I see it with the same perspective I judged DK when he told Mannat, Vish wants all the property just like you got from ARS, same logic Vikrant presented.

Bold 2- lets assume they did everything for Vikrant and his happiness. what was their long term plan with Vish and Malla who knew the truth ? Were they ever planning to tell Vikrant or was their plan to deceive him through out his life?

Bold 3 - this is completely wrong of Vikrant considering he already married her, spent a night with her. I am still waiting to see what they are going to show or this will be forgotten since he was shocked to see them being addressed by Dua.

Bold 4- We know Malla has not changed , for Vikrant she apologized for her past mistakes. From what I am seeing this is just like they showed Mannat and DK forgiving Neetu and Ronnie for their crimes because they apologized, isn't it? Infact if you remember Vish after so many crimes requested DK she wanted to see the wedding and he was the one who requested Mannat to let her stay.

Bold 5- I hate Y and the actress if you haven't read my posts 🙈 so I watch with the urge to 👊 my screen everytime the actress is on screen so may have missed some cringe not all though. But I understand the hypocrisy you are referring to about Vikrant allowing Y to do everything, so he shouldn't be calling out Mannat for anything she does with her life.

Originally posted by: Rdigest

DK, I am done with his character after he pretended to be an honest cop in the last few episodes and like this wasn't enough per BTS he is going to be a victim again and this time abused by his partner in xyz Neetu 🙄

Bold 1 - Vikrant isn't broken with the truth as much, but more so because Mannat not just lied to him, but kept supporting RoTu and DK until the last minute, including after his memories were back.

Bold 2- I would cribbed about all the lies, but still passed this off until I heard her conversation with DK about never revealing to Dua who her real father was. This tells us Mannat doesn't realize what her mistake was in the whole destruction. It doesn't matter Ronnie put his foot down to tell Dua the truth anymore, because we know what she was planning to do if Ronnie didn't overhear their conversation.

Bold 3- I agree until he gets his anger in control Dua shouldn't be with him. . However, we are forgetting truth gang brought him to this condition and they don't even realize their mistakes yet. He is stuck in a limbo with partial memories from his childhood accident, the truth which was revealed and no answers?

Bold 4- I understand this and only pointed out what the characters were aware off and how the writers are making them ignore these to make the story lopsided.

You are forgetting it wasn’t the truth gang who brought Vikrant to his anger state… it was Vish and Malla who played that game on him with a video of half truth. it was Vish who has been lying about what she did.

You are putting the blame on so called truth gang when they were the one screaming the “truth” that Dadi was drugged put in a old age home by Vish they were screaming got the nurse as proof that Vish was lying she was the one who caused his fathers death… they were screaming that it was Vish who sold him off for money. Vikrant didn’t believe on any truth.
Despite of being thrown out of the house, Mannat was the one who went back to Vikrant Saluja to tell the good news about their baby.
You have to go back and watch all those episodes to pass judgement on Mannat and DCP.

for the “truth gang” the divorce papers were sent by Vikrant and Vikrant is the one who rejected their baby on the pretense of Mannat having an affair with DCP. Even after 7 years he still thinks Dua is DCP and mannats kid. Is blaming Mannat on how easily she moved on.
what reason does Mannat have to tell Dua the truth at this age? What purpose would it serve in their lives? Just because some audience can’t tackle that DCP has been a good father? It’s not like Vikrant has given them a reason to allow them to let him come in Duas life. He is still on his high horse why would as a mother who was rejected by the guy go and ruin the child’s life deliberately?

Until the truth of divorce, Yuvi, Aish killing Shruthi and the fact that his brother has not crossed the line with Mannat doesn’t come out there is nothing that can be done to defend Vikrant or blame Mannat, DCP and Ronnie.