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Posted: 3 days ago

Originally posted by: Daman17

In the name of cinematic liberty, the writers keep forgetting their own plot. Mannat reveals Neetu’s drugging issue yet everyone refuses to believe it and Neetu herself doesn’t admit anything even when Ronnie repeatedly questions her. This revelation leads to a major Manvik separation but there is no introspection from any character despite such a serious accusation rather story moved to Malla Vik wedding and Aish reveal. Later, during the ManVik wedding track, Vish and Malla’s plotting succeeds and Neetu puts the blame on Mannat and twisted the story to benefit vamps and the final blow happens when vamps disclosed the truth this time in front of Vikrant. There are massive inconsistencies in how this issue should have been addressed versus how it actually was. This is the core problem with Mannat’s writing team that they introduce strong plots and then leave them midway, which ends up changing the entire narrative. The character who exposes the truth for the first time is later shown supporting the opposite stance for various reasons. I’m not even countering those reasons here but the writers failed to protect their leads, and that doesn’t goes well with the audience. I saw Ronnie’s IV where he mentioned that people are liking this two house setup and that it’s getting numbers. This indicates that Mukta is in no mood right now to move towards ManVik togetherness. According to him, Ronnie won’t soften towards Vik for now, he does feel emotional on meeting him but nothing beyond that.

Bold...

I have a different perspective on this and I have mentioned it quite a few times to RD, Trupti...

This switch did not happen because they forgot the story... it happened because they decided to whitewash Neetu and got Vish/DK for that purpose.... moving away from OG


As per the changed narrative Mannat had no role to play in drugging issue. Recall the post skit Mannat Vish fight...

Mannat did not confront Neetu (as she told to Vish) neither did she had anything to do with the meds (we have seen Mannat switching them and throwing them)... but as per changed narrative Neetu realised her mistake on her own and threw them out... so technically as per the new narrative Mannat did not lie to Vik about the meds.

What she did so however is when Neetu told her she was taking anti depressants... Mannat did not find it necessary to inform this to Vik.... a false allegation Neetu put on Mannat during haldi fiasco.... later the same meds were brought out during wedding...

In all this Vik and the characters conveniently forgot (or were made to forget as per new narrative) that Mannat had infact brought this truth out.... Vik did not believe her then... almost threw her out of the house.

This is also why he never bothered to get himself tested (just to prove Mannat wrong) and believed Neetu even though he himself had realised he used to black out after drinking Neetus juice.


Whether or not Mannat had lied about drugging... it was always meant to blamed on her.

Edited by Moor278 - 3 days ago
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Posted: 3 days ago

As much as we can criticize Neetu... it was always expected she will side with Vik...


There is another angle to this.... the story or rather ManVik are stuck where they think the other has moved on...

Mannat is massively upset with the way Vik behaved on funeral day and what he is doing now... I feel she is rightfully justified in her trauma...

Vik is clearly revengeful on her... the way he is trying to upset her... by filing a case on her to threatening to cancel her food license... none of which makes a good picture of him... so it's logical Mannat would think Vik will snatch Dua from her as revenge and will never let her meet Dua.

That to me is her fear why she keeps repeating I wont let Dua near Vik.

As per her he knows he is the father and has rights (which she accepts privately).


But on Viks side he is still stuck... and feels betrayed by Mannat. He hasnt shown any attachment to Dua... so he has not realised it could be his daughter. Neither is clarity on their own marriage to him... he will change his attitude the moment he finds out DM are not married or Dua is his daughter.


DM fake marriage pretense is known only to RoTu DK and Mannat. Except Neetu no one would be interested to reveal to Vik the fake aspect of it. So Neetu remains the only person who can tell this to Vik.

I feel Neetu will try but wont be able to reveal Duas truth... she can however hint on DM being fake... Vik can do the rest in his anger /frustration /confusion.


That said... DK doesnt deserve the treatment Neetu will give him as per BTS. This is the same guy she wanted to adopt when he agreed to lie for her. And was leaning on him till she didnt have a glimpse of Vik. 🤦‍♀️

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Posted: 3 days ago

Originally posted by: Moor278

You are taking it personally... I did not mean you... I have included myself too...

What I meant was if we feel sympathy for FL due to gender then we give excuses to ML due to same gender.

The point I am trying to make in past few days (which looks like DKs defence to you) is... that currently Vik cant be defended... his actions and his behaviour do not match and in comparison both Mannat and DK look compatible.... so much that there is a population shipping them.

That doesnt mean Vik is not the ML.... he just hasnt had his redemption track started.

And that will happen... for that atleast one truth needs to come out... which the makers are delaying for whatever reason...


I disagree with you on Lost FL being shown right always.... she was systematically degraded right from surrogacy... in a bid to make the PL relevant...

Thankfully Mukta has corrected those mistakes and made Mannat (show) post leap better.

1. Dua is not Saavi... not a child longing for her missing dad which makes Mannat stronger and not weaker.

2. Mannat went and tried to inform Vik about the pregnancy inspite of the humiliation which Sai never did and we never got a reason why...

3. DK is not Jagtap... all credit to SB for making Jaggu redeemed but the loyal audience cant forget that he was her molester and a criminal. DK is not him.

4. Malla is not married to Vik post leap like VP had... thats why they have Y to take her place... but Thankfully not married to her either.


My question was whether if we operate from a gender bias then do we give excuses to ML for this same reason we understand the FL better?

Moor I was talking only about myself and my unconscious bias against Vikrant where I bashed Vikrant but automatically started defending Mannat or being very careful on calling her out even when she was supporting criminals. This is from my perspective on why I changed the stance after the funeral episode.

I have a funny narrative of Mannat and DK compatibility 🙈, they are compatible for sure because they both have forgotten how they deceived Vikrant pre-leap and consider themselves innocent just because they said sorry and Vikrant CA Mannat.

So, they are compatible in not calling out each other on their faults, crimes or even supporting criminals just like a cat closing it's eyes and believing it's invisible and all is wellsmiley36. I did see many of manit fans specifically routing for them and I am saying this based on their user names on Instagram. So, good for them because they are liking this narrative.

Mannat and DK's actions are being judged and given a free pass by saying Vikrant did worse, instead they should be judged based on what both the characters did irrespective of what Vikrant did or didn't. I am not interested in DK, to me he is always a criminal cop until he accepts his crimes and gets punished.

The point is as much as Vikrant is not innocent, Mannat is not innocent either and she didn't get bashed atleast by me because of the unconscious bias I had that she was pregnant during the wedding drama and she was going to lose Shurti.

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Posted: 3 days ago

Originally posted by: Moor278

As much as we can criticize Neetu... it was always expected she will side with Vik...

There is another angle to this.... the story or rather ManVik are stuck where they think the other has moved on...

Mannat is massively upset with the way Vik behaved on funeral day and what he is doing now... I feel she is rightfully justified in her trauma...

Vik is clearly revengeful on her... the way he is trying to upset her... by filing a case on her to threatening to cancel her food license... none of which makes a good picture of him... so it's logical Mannat would think Vik will snatch Dua from her as revenge and will never let her meet Dua.

That to me is her fear why she keeps repeating I wont let Dua near Vik.

As per her he knows he is the father and has rights (which she accepts privately).

But on Viks side he is still stuck... and feels betrayed by Mannat. He hasnt shown any attachment to Dua... so he has not realised it could be his daughter. Neither is clarity on their own marriage to him... he will change his attitude the moment he finds out DM are not married or Dua is his daughter.

DM fake marriage pretense is known only to RoTu DK and Mannat. Except Neetu no one would be interested to reveal to Vik the fake aspect of it. So Neetu remains the only person who can tell this to Vik.

I feel Neetu will try but wont be able to reveal Duas truth... she can however hint on DM being fake... Vik can do the rest in his anger /frustration /confusion.

That said... DK doesnt deserve the treatment Neetu will give him as per BTS. This is the same guy she wanted to adopt when he agreed to lie for her. And was leaning on him till she didnt have a glimpse of Vik. 🤦‍♀️

I don't understand this post Moor or I have gone crazy 🤣 I am just referring to Mannat, Vikrant parts , so if Mannat thinks Vikrant knows Dua is his daughter why would he wait to snatch her or what is he waiting for 😵‍💫

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Posted: 3 days ago

Originally posted by: truptishree

Babaji will say it’s my fault for giving those signs and you guys use it as per your convenience and for your benefit 😜😡

It's Babaji's sign if it happens unintentionally, all characters are doing as they wish and calling them as babaji's signssmiley36. Babaji is being used without his permission smiley37

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Posted: 3 days ago

Originally posted by: Moor278

Bold...

I have a different perspective on this and I have mentioned it quite a few times to RD, Trupti...

This switch did not happen because they forgot the story... it happened because they decided to whitewash Neetu and got Vish/DK for that purpose.... moving away from OG

As per the changed narrative Mannat had no role to play in drugging issue. Recall the post skit Mannat Vish fight...

Mannat did not confront Neetu (as she told to Vish) neither did she had anything to do with the meds (we have seen Mannat switching them and throwing them)... but as per changed narrative Neetu realised her mistake on her own and threw them out... so technically as per the new narrative Mannat did not lie to Vik about the meds.

What she did so however is when Neetu told her she was taking anti depressants... Mannat did not find it necessary to inform this to Vik.... a false allegation Neetu put on Mannat during haldi fiasco.... later the same meds were brought out during wedding...

In all this Vik and the characters conveniently forgot (or were made to forget as per new narrative) that Mannat had infact brought this truth out.... Vik did not believe her then... almost threw her out of the house.

This is also why he never bothered to get himself tested (just to prove Mannat wrong) and believed Neetu even though he himself had realised he used to black out after drinking Neetus juice.

Whether or not Mannat had lied about drugging... it was always meant to blamed on her.

In all this nonsense Shruti did have a valid point during Haldi fiasco when Neetu blamed her and Vikrant yelled at Mannat instantly. But no one paid attention to Shurti and her worries that Mannat shouldn't be supporting Neetu in her lies, crimes and Vikrant shouldn't be talking to her in that manner.

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Posted: 3 days ago

What exactly are DK and Mannats crimes please???

And when you say crimes ( like Aish Malla does) please make sure they are crimes and not misjudgements smiley20

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Posted: 3 days ago

Originally posted by: Rdigest

I don't understand this post Moor or I have gone crazy 🤣 I am just referring to Mannat, Vikrant parts , so if Mannat thinks Vikrant knows Dua is his daughter why would he wait to snatch her or what is he waiting for 😵‍💫

Revenge and he didn't knew where they were smiley20

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Posted: 3 days ago

Originally posted by: Moor278

What exactly are DK and Mannats crimes please???

And when you say crimes ( like Aish Malla does) please make sure they are crimes and not misjudgements smiley20

I meant on DK's crimes and Mannat's faults. These are known to all of us

DK shifting ARS to hospital without a valid reason and by getting blackmailed.

DK saw Malla bribing the pandit and he is a cop if he has forgotten

DK starting the fire on KC by being blackmailed again

DK letting go of Vish instead of arresting them after finding out she sold Vikrant, let his dad die and was drugging Dadi. Then like this wast enough he goes on to blackmail her into silence along with Mannat.

DK letting go of RoTu after knowing the truth that Neetu was involved in the accident, Ronnie did buy Vikrant, Neetu did drug Vikrant. Mannat supported all these.

Bold - why this clause for Mannat and DK , what does bold mean ?

Edited by Rdigest - 3 days ago
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Mannat acknowledges Vik as Dua’s father at heart yet she also believes that Vik thinks the child belongs to DK. This is reflected in her conversations with both Vik and DK when she talks about ghatiya and bebuniyaad ilzaam. She has a fear that Neetu might reveal the truth that Dua is Vik’s daughter and not DK’s. Such a revelation would give Vik parental rights even though he had rejected the child earlier according to her and questioned her character. What no one knows is that Vik was never aware of the pregnancy. However, in Mannat’s understanding Vik knew she was pregnant but believed the child was DK’s, not his. This belief fuels her fear of rejection for herself and for dua because she feels they would once again be subjected to the same questions, doubts, and need for validation. If Neetu or any other vamp exposes dua’s truth, it would give Vik the power to claim her and potentially take her away. In his mind, Mannat would appear guilty of hiding the truth and conveniently portraying DK as dua’s father and depriving him of his rights without him even pausing to question the circumstances.

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