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Posted: 6 days ago
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Originally posted by: The_Best

The actor playing Rithik was in Naagin3. Naagin3 came out in 2018, so it’s been 7 years and he was probably active in itv before that too. So he isn’t inexperienced. The one playing Angad isn’t either. Gautam, Karan and others of past itv were good actors from the beginning or at least good after few years of experience. These new male actors just don’t seem to work hard or care about their acting. If they did they would’ve at least improved their acting by now after all these years. I am highly disappointed with ekta for taking such bad male actors for a show like Kyunki out of all shows

Oh, never knew this about him. If 7 years have not trained him then god help him. I can excuse him a bit of that as pandemic happened but he genuinely comes across as someone really new to this profession.

Regarding Karan aka Hiten, he’s a stage actor turned TV star, so that makes a difference. In fact most of the OG cast back then and in many major shows would only cast stage performers from across the country. And this wasn’t just limited to veterans but also those playing younger characters. You had to have a minimum amount of stage experience of at least one or two years to even be considered seriously for getting cast into any role.

Now they’re using social media and direct casting so the quality has gone downhill and it shows.

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Posted: 6 days ago
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Originally posted by: EkPaheli

Oh, never knew this about him. If 7 years have not trained him then god help him. I can excuse him a bit of that as pandemic happened but he genuinely comes across as someone really new to this profession.

Regarding Karan aka Hiten, he’s a stage actor turned TV star, so that makes a difference. In fact most of the OG cast back then and in many major shows would only cast stage performers from across the country. And this wasn’t just limited to veterans but also those playing younger characters. You had to have a minimum amount of stage experience of at least one or two years to even be considered seriously for getting cast into any role.

Now they’re using social media and direct casting so the quality has gone downhill and it shows.

I don’t understand why they aren’t taking stage actors like they used to. These social media actors are bad
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Posted: 6 days ago
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Another thing is Mihir was with the kids all these years and what did he do for the kids? Instead of victimising himself he should've atleast focused on the kids well being and set up hrithik's stability and career in a better way. He used to blame tulsi preleap ki bacchon pe dyaan dena tha...what is he doing now?

They just want tulsi back to clean up their messes

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Posted: 6 days ago
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Tbh i dont like hritik now

His scene of teaching timsy life ka maths and trauma dumping irked me

He is just a cry baby who wants his mommy back

Tbh the kids are angry at tulsi as they are in problems and they want mommy to solve it for them

Angad and Vrinda were craving for love and others want mommy to save them

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Posted: 6 days ago
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Originally posted by: The_Best

I don’t understand why they aren’t taking stage actors like they used to. These social media actors are bad

Because stage actors are not as well known unfortunately as social media stars and influencers and they know that means easy fame and a guaranteed audience base from the beginning, a stage actor cannot necessarily guarantee that.

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Another thing is Mihir was with the kids all these years and what did he do for the kids? Instead of victimising himself he should've atleast focused on the kids well being and set up hrithik's stability and career in a better way. He used to blame tulsi preleap ki bacchon pe dyaan dena tha...what is he doing now?

They just want tulsi back to clean up their messes

Because it’s easy to blame mom always. As if it’s only her job to care for children.

Men don’t get questioned if their child errs, women face trials even within their own homes and judgments even from their partner who is also a parent of the same child.

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Posted: 5 days ago
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Originally posted by: EkPaheli

I’m not sure if I should say this but Hrithik as a character still fails to incite any sympathy within me even after that precap.

Maybe I am too jaded, idk.

I understand he’s under pressure, his wife treats him horribly and the verbal abuse has stripped away what little confidence he had. His self esteem is zero, his mental health is zero…

I understand all of that…

Yet I find it hard to sympathise with him. I don’t know why he married Mittali but his rant today against Tulsi made me think he’s still too immature, pathetic and worse of all, wants to be babied. He’s holding his mother’s absence as the reason why his life fell apart as if her presence was assured as a constant forever.

I understand how an abusive partner, even a mentally, emotionally, verbally and psychologically abusive partner can do a number on a person; and yes Mittali qualifies as an abusive wife in this regard, she’s inflicting mental cruelty on her husband, she’s a terrible mother… but that still doesn’t change the fact that Hrithik wants to hold his mom accountable for his miseries as if she orchestrated these circumstances personally to ruin his life.

I understand that the makers are trying to go for the hurt child angle here, show that the child is affected when parents have a problem in their marriage and how their split inevitably affects their children, particularly the most sensitive children the hardest, this still falls short and doesn’t seem to inspire the kind of reaction they are seeking, at least from my POV as a viewer of this show.

For one, Hrithik while perhaps the most sensitive child of TuHir was no child when things went wrong and they fell apart. He was an adult and he had to grasp that his mother was so terribly wronged, for a second time. Daksha’s scene ensured that there was no ambiguity regarding the matter, Hrithik was present and had to have heard how Mihir has cheated on Tulsi again, for a second time.


Just like one doesn’t necessarily have to burn their skin with acid to know that it’s dangerous and can inflict pain and injuries so severe that you might wish for death to stop feeling it, one doesn’t need to be married and cheated on twice by their own spouse to get what Tulsi must have felt back then.

Heck, Hrithik couldn’t handle Munni’s lies and their relationship, if it could be even called that was merely online and involved nothing beyond chatting with each other. Yet here he’s having these lofty expectations from his mother? He’s angry at her for choosing her sanity, dignity and self respect for which she needed space? Really?!! Is he serious?!

To me, Hrithik appears as someone who’s found a scapegoat in his mum to blame for the mess that his life has become rather than a child lost and hurting for his mother.

Tulsi’s departure from the home can’t be blamed for Hrithik’s lack of confidence in navigating his own life, for the decisions that led his life here. Today he can say his mom leaving was the reason why everything went wrong because she’s back. But what if she couldn’t be back?

Parents, including mothers aren’t immortal, even if we wish they could be. Tulsi could have been dead, been in an accident that left her in a coma or as a vegetable, she could have been paralysed, age could have caused her to lose her cognitive abilities, some sudden stroke could have caused her to be bedridden … point is, parents are not responsible to look after us all our lives. They might wish they could and they would if they have the opportunity to do so for as long as their bodies permit them and life allows them but they are also limited by their physical abilities that slow with age and of course their own mortality.

Hrithik wasn’t so young as to be unable to grasp these hard realities. He’s not even now.

Initially I saw him fail as a son when I saw he had married Mittali despite everything and today I saw him failing as a father.

He blames his mother for leaving; when she merely chose to walk away so as to not suffocate and die while she stayed back in SN after knowing what Mihir did; but his mother still left with her head held high and with the assurance that she won’t kill herself, even though even she briefly almost was suicidal but she didn’t actively take the step to kill herself which Hrithik did today.

Ironically, Hrithik was doing the same thing he accused his mother of and taking it to an extreme; had he succeeded he would’ve hurt his daughter in a far worse manner than Tulsi ever hurt him.

Even though she walked away, she didn’t leave in a manner that wouldn’t even allow Hrithik the opportunity to hope to get her back again someday. What he did could have ensured a door closing permanent for his own daughter who wouldn’t have even had a good mother to care for her in his absence, something he already knows.

It tells you something when Pari is far more aware than Hrithik and willing to take accountability for her life, decisions and their outcomes than her brother who was supposed to be the more responsible one of the two at least.

Aisa laggrha hai arjun k gandiv se bahot saare baan nikle hai ek k baad ek😂😃🙏.

I admire your deep analysis.

Why Hrithik is mad at Tulsi?. We would often do the same. We take out our frustration due to failure onto our favourite parent that's mostly be always a mother.

Hrithik is talking only from his perspective, and for his scattered failed life. He was constantly asked by everyone in the family to prove as a man(in the absence of Tulsi), except Mihir. Noina says tumne ye kyun nhi kiya, tum jaante ho na isski serious, tum samjh nhi rhe ho, to top it Hrithik is everyone's favourite scapegoat here including Pari, Noina, Mithali n ba.... d😜 Rann. So verbally day in and day out his efficiency was questioned, while he was always abused verbally, downgraded in the family, he was proved as good for nothing man.Business is not completely under Hrithik if I understood Mihir says it's Noina who handles it. Every failure to be attributed to Noina and Mihir as a father and elder of the family could have handled things correctly. Tulsi was constantly guiding Mihir in the past, what to teach his kids when they joined business. She was pressurizing mihir to give them enough responsibility and monitor them, which he left to Noina. Noina, as said,she is just bothered about Mihir alone, rest all are not related to her, including her niece.

He is emotionally drained out,wanted to vent out his failure, frustration and sorrows, he must be guilty of the fact that he could not be successful and have his mother by his side when the world is questioning his abilities, he found his nest in Tulsi again, he shouted at her, blamed her for his current life and failures. He believes in Tulsi's support and advise more than himself, some people always need validation, guidance and support from others. He is frustrated bcoz, he found Munni success, it's a big slap on his face and a abusive wife, failed marriage,his incompetence literally triggered him to suicide.

However, i do not sympathize his suicidal act, neither he attributing his incompetency to Tulsi. while he married Mithali, it was his decision or decision imposed by Mihir/Noina or Mithali, which he accepted. I want Mihir to take action and say now, Mithali n Hrithik should be separated.

I strongly agree on the points you raised, when Tulsi was shattered, she herself was not in a state to understand whether to live a life or die. And parents cannot be always with us, definitely we treat them immortal, aren't we? We never ever think, they will also leave one day🙄🙄.

Hrithik must be guilty of not being their for his mom too, which he will express eventually.

Hrithik's cowardness is definitely bcoz of no support from his family. He is failed as a father too, before pulling this suicidal act, he never once thought about his daughter, he very well knew he was the only responsible parent here. God forbid, if he died, then he will still be called a coward, irresponsible, incompetent father for his daughter as well. He was called so by everyone else, noe gis daughter will have the same feeling once grown, Mithali will instill the same in Garima's mind. 😡🙄.

To be frank we take our parents for granted most of the times, especially mom. We think she should always be our protector, guide, punch bag etc. Issiliye shayad maa ko bhoomi se compare kiya jaata hai, usske garbh me har wo paap, har wo kharab cheez ko bhi chupaya jaa sakta hai, Kshamaya Dharitri.

We hardly listen, understand or think of mom's state, but we always expect her to listen to us, be their for us. 😭😭. Maa to bhi aisi hi hai, wo usske har dukh ko chupalegi, side me rakhegi and apne bachhe ki dukh ko nhi dekh sakti, she has the ability to endure all her pain, but cannot tolerate her child's pain.

I'm not defending Hrithik in anyway.

Pari rightly said to accept and learn to stand for their mistakes and failures, blame themselves, instead of parent. He is emotionally tortured by everyone, so he has failed.

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Posted: 5 days ago
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Aisa laggrha hai arjun k gandiv se bahot saare baan nikle hai ek k baad ek😂😃🙏.

I admire your deep analysis.

Why Hrithik is mad at Tulsi?. We would often do the same. We take out our frustration due to failure onto our favourite parent that's mostly be always a mother.

Hrithik is talking only from his perspective, and for his scattered failed life. He was constantly asked by everyone in the family to prove as a man(in the absence of Tulsi), except Mihir. Noina says tumne ye kyun nhi kiya, tum jaante ho na isski serious, tum samjh nhi rhe ho, to top it Hrithik is everyone's favourite scapegoat here including Pari, Noina, Mithali n ba.... d😜 Rann. So verbally day in and day out his efficiency was questioned, while he was always abused verbally, downgraded in the family, he was proved as good for nothing man.Business is not completely under Hrithik if I understood Mihir says it's Noina who handles it. Every failure to be attributed to Noina and Mihir as a father and elder of the family could have handled things correctly. Tulsi was constantly guiding Mihir in the past, what to teach his kids when they joined business. She was pressurizing mihir to give them enough responsibility and monitor them, which he left to Noina. Noina, as said,she is just bothered about Mihir alone, rest all are not related to her, including her niece.

He is emotionally drained out,wanted to vent out his failure, frustration and sorrows, he must be guilty of the fact that he could not be successful and have his mother by his side when the world is questioning his abilities, he found his nest in Tulsi again, he shouted at her, blamed her for his current life and failures. He believes in Tulsi's support and advise more than himself, some people always need validation, guidance and support from others. He is frustrated bcoz, he found Munni success, it's a big slap on his face and a abusive wife, failed marriage,his incompetence literally triggered him to suicide.

However, i do not sympathize his suicidal act, neither he attributing his incompetency to Tulsi. while he married Mithali, it was his decision or decision imposed by Mihir/Noina or Mithali, which he accepted. I want Mihir to take action and say now, Mithali n Hrithik should be separated.

I strongly agree on the points you raised, when Tulsi was shattered, she herself was not in a state to understand whether to live a life or die. And parents cannot be always with us, definitely we treat them immortal, aren't we? We never ever think, they will also leave one day🙄🙄.

Hrithik must be guilty of not being their for his mom too, which he will express eventually.

Hrithik's cowardness is definitely bcoz of no support from his family. He is failed as a father too, before pulling this suicidal act, he never once thought about his daughter, he very well knew he was the only responsible parent here. God forbid, if he died, then he will still be called a coward, irresponsible, incompetent father for his daughter as well. He was called so by everyone else, noe gis daughter will have the same feeling once grown, Mithali will instill the same in Garima's mind. 😡🙄.

To be frank we take our parents for granted most of the times, especially mom. We think she should always be our protector, guide, punch bag etc. Issiliye shayad maa ko bhoomi se compare kiya jaata hai, usske garbh me har wo paap, har wo kharab cheez ko bhi chupaya jaa sakta hai, Kshamaya Dharitri.

We hardly listen, understand or think of mom's state, but we always expect her to listen to us, be their for us. 😭😭. Maa to bhi aisi hi hai, wo usske har dukh ko chupalegi, side me rakhegi and apne bachhe ki dukh ko nhi dekh sakti, she has the ability to endure all her pain, but cannot tolerate her child's pain.

I'm not defending Hrithik in anyway.

Pari rightly said to accept and learn to stand for their mistakes and failures, blame themselves, instead of parent. He is emotionally tortured by everyone, so he has failed.

Thank you for understanding my POV.

Exactly, I understand life has been hard for him but he was making it seem like Tulsi’s decision to walk away was enough for him to stop thinking about the repercussions of the decisions made regarding his life.

Today he says people told me to marry Mittali and I did; my passion was singing but I was asked to join the business and I did. When it started sinking and my marriage turned out to be a disaster I started crumbling.

Did Tulsi take his brain along with her? I didn’t notice her packing it in her meagre belongings she walked away with.

What I particularly disliked about his rant today was it seemed less like venting out but more like the whining of a manchild who wants his mummy to be always there for him and baby him.

So your dreams didn’t work out and you had to settle, big deal. He was making it sound like he was being forced to do hardships like picking up bricks or luggage of people to keep a roof over his head and food in his belly, he was literally living in a mansion like home and asked to help manage a legacy business worth crores already. He didn’t have to set it up or anything, he made it sound like it was so difficult to live in a home that’s huge and comfortable, to travel in cars, wear tailored suits and simply ensure that a business that was already established kept running smoothly.

People have endured worse and they never complained. This to me reeked of privilege and a sheltered existence that was met with a hardship for the first time in life and refused to grow up and deal with the consequences and pain of it all like an adult. I won’t say like a man because this could have easily been a daughter as well and I would have had the exact same reaction and opinions for her attitude as well if it was the same.

His brother was the architect of his own fate, he lived in a chawl, learnt to adapt, survive, work menial jobs though god knows he didn’t have to as irl he had to have had contacts. But he made his choices and understood he had to learn to live with them. And it’s not like Angad had to feel any better or different than Hrithik about Tulsi not being around. He would’ve had to feel it even worse considering that Tulsi was with him when she suddenly disappeared. To top it off and serve as the cherry on the cake was the stigma of being a Ghar Jamai that he would’ve had to carry around as well. It’s already not easy to be at the receiving end of that experience for any man owing to the way people are bound to treat him, mock him, ridicule him as it is, but it’s bound to be horrendous on another level to experience it as someone who came from such an elite family and had suddenly been abandoned by his family to live in a chawl. Oh and I forgot, Mihir’s parting words would have rung so joyfully in his head from time to time as well but in comparison Angad didn’t fall apart and turn bitter. He’s happy in his life with the woman he loves and is raising two lovely, happy children.

Can’t believe it but Hrithik got such a severe downfall with these episodes that he’s made Angad look better in comparison and I’m not even a fan! Neither of the actor nor the character but good lord!

To have the audacity to say all those things rather than just admit that I lacked the spine to deny marrying Mittali, and I thought it was incredible that she would be willing to settle with a guy who looked like me though she’s so beautiful herself and can do much better.

Boy has some nerve to blame his mama but wouldn’t just admit that he’s a wuss!

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Tbh i dont like hritik now

His scene of teaching timsy life ka maths and trauma dumping irked me

He is just a cry baby who wants his mommy back

Tbh the kids are angry at tulsi as they are in problems and they want mommy to solve it for them

Angad and Vrinda were craving for love and others want mommy to save them

Hrithik reminds me of every toxic parent who stays married to a person that they detest for the sake of their child/children and then as the kids start getting a bit older they start telling them that I would’ve walked away from this person and ended this marriage - the world, society and even my own family be damned but I stuck around for your sake.

I absolutely HATE it when parents do that.

That child clearly didn’t send you a request letter asking you to conceive them and bring them into this world. You made that decision and now that you’re unhappy, you’re trying to make sure your child suffers from the guilt of something that they clearly haven’t done? That they feel the weight of your sad life, your own miseries as if they’re some kind of a chain that was put around your ankles to keep you shackled. Why would you want to destroy them just because you feel ruined?

As a parent aren’t you supposed to be the one to love and protect them? Who would protect your children if your words themselves ruin them? You’re supposed to protect your kids from the rest of the world… but who in the world would step up and protect your kids from you?


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Thank you for understanding my POV.

Exactly, I understand life has been hard for him but he was making it seem like Tulsi’s decision to walk away was enough for him to stop thinking about the repercussions of the decisions made regarding his life.

Today he says people told me to marry Mittali and I did; my passion was singing but I was asked to join the business and I did. When it started sinking and my marriage turned out to be a disaster I started crumbling.

Did Tulsi take his brain along with her? I didn’t notice her packing it in her meagre belongings she walked away with.

What I particularly disliked about his rant today was it seemed less like venting out but more like the whining of a manchild who wants his mummy to be always there for him and baby him.

So your dreams didn’t work out and you had to settle, big deal. He was making it sound like he was being forced to do hardships like picking up bricks or luggage of people to keep a roof over his head and food in his belly, he was literally living in a mansion like home and asked to help manage a legacy business worth crores already. He didn’t have to set it up or anything, he made it sound like it was so difficult to live in a home that’s huge and comfortable, to travel in cars, wear tailored suits and simply ensure that a business that was already established kept running smoothly.

People have endured worse and they never complained. This to me reeked of privilege and a sheltered existence that was met with a hardship for the first time in life and refused to grow up and deal with the consequences and pain of it all like an adult. I won’t say like a man because this could have easily been a daughter as well and I would have had the exact same reaction and opinions for her attitude as well if it was the same.

His brother was the architect of his own fate, he lived in a chawl, learnt to adapt, survive, work menial jobs though god knows he didn’t have to as irl he had to have had contacts. But he made his choices and understood he had to learn to live with them. And it’s not like Angad had to feel any better or different than Hrithik about Tulsi not being around. He would’ve had to feel it even worse considering that Tulsi was with him when she suddenly disappeared. To top it off and serve as the cherry on the cake was the stigma of being a Ghar Jamai that he would’ve had to carry around as well. It’s already not easy to be at the receiving end of that experience for any man owing to the way people are bound to treat him, mock him, ridicule him as it is, but it’s bound to be horrendous on another level to experience it as someone who came from such an elite family and had suddenly been abandoned by his family to live in a chawl. Oh and I forgot, Mihir’s parting words would have rung so joyfully in his head from time to time as well but in comparison Angad didn’t fall apart and turn bitter. He’s happy in his life with the woman he loves and is raising two lovely, happy children.

Can’t believe it but Hrithik got such a severe downfall with these episodes that he’s made Angad look better in comparison and I’m not even a fan! Neither of the actor nor the character but good lord!

To have the audacity to say all those things rather than just admit that I lacked the spine to deny marrying Mittali, and I thought it was incredible that she would be willing to settle with a guy who looked like me though she’s so beautiful herself and can do much better.

Boy has some nerve to blame his mama but wouldn’t just admit that he’s a wuss!

Judt watched today's episode.

Agree on your point that he was given a well established business but partially, all the decision making and control were under the carpet of Noina. And if there is rat like rann who constantly makes losses, and Mithali like creatures who invests relentlessly, mindlessly in her shopping, trips, lavish life, no one controls, but everything putting on his head was nit right. He is given a welll established business alright, but the required skill, knowledge and training someone has to give, which Mihir failed to do. To top it he has a daughter to look after. He was literally burdened by people making him feel guilty, being reason for business losses, whereas Mihir never questioned Ranvijay or Noina, or Mithali for the losses. Just bcoz he is the only Virani boy at the moment he was attributed all the failures. Has it been success, Noina would have taken the line light. We have already seen in the kaat episides where Noina was praised by Mihir in the public. 🙄🙄

Think once, if Mihir has forced him to marry Mithali, he would have agreed to do so, with the fear of living in chawl or leave SN like Angad. Angad accepted his fate, though i feel his decisions are wrong too, to be a ghar jamayi, doing a small job, but the advantage for him is he has a good understanding wife, who supports him in decisions, and runs her house within their earning limit unlke Mithali. Many a times i thought Hemant would help Angad to have a better job atleast, but Angad bhi stupid hi tha, twins bhi banaliya😂😂. Mujhe Hrithik n Angad dono k bacchoan se aitraz hai. When you have no good life of your own, you don't take responsibilities of your life you should not kids 😟

Tulsi se Hrithik k expectations zyada hai, but i think he relied completely on her for every small thing. Ussne apni icchaye bhi dabaya hai, ussko sabse zyada chhot Munni ki IAS banne pe lagi hai, Mithali n Rannn k accusations. He is guilty of many things.


His only support was Tulsi. He is depresed by his decisions,but abhi k liye Tulsi is the only punching bag... He thinks if she was there in his life, she would have stopped him doing mistakes.

If Mithali was a good Partner, probably in losses too she would have supported her husband. Question was Hritik still be upset with Tulsi?? Probably No and shayad ussko maa ki kami bhi nhi khalti.

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