Kyunki Saas Bhi Kabhi Bahu Thi 2: EDT #7 [DT NOTE PAGE 47] - Page 100

Originally posted by: BangBang_Shilpa

Jiski Vrinda ke saath shaadi honi thi.

Ranvijay ka dost.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQGlyAeCviM/

Originally posted by: xnbstar

I like only Angad baqi sab not good at all especially Ritik, Parth and Ranvijay

Parth is Karan Nandani's son so at least popular actor lety

I hope TuHir meet soon. This hit and miss and Noina stopping the meeting is getting annoying now

Originally posted by: The_Best

Why can’t they just hire good male actors for new gen?? All these bekar Angad, Rithik, Parth and Dev are so bad. Parth seems to be the most decent out of all, but he too is nowhere fine enough to be equal to a good actor. The new gen girls are all good actresses + beautiful while the guys are all 😒

Blunt answer - because things are not as before.

Previously social media had no role in what made a person popular or who could even be considered an actor. Now everyone with a phone is an actor, anyone can be popular with one stupid reel. You don’t have to struggle to get selected and you don’t need to be good to play any part on TV if you can be considered popular on social media.

Showmakers themselves are not as passionate anymore. They know the times have changed. Previously while there were a handful of channels airing serials, they had to be good to ensure that their show was the one being watched by viewers because they could always switch to a movie/news/music/devotional/regional/sports channel. They had to fight for attention, and so they put in the efforts in every department.
Now they know with social media and OTT platforms they’re already fighting a losing battle. Men as it is didn’t really tune into these shows, younger generation is more addicted to social media and content on OTT platforms from across the world where they don’t even stand a chance. Their only audience is the one who is technologically challenged like grandmums and the ones who are not in a financial position to afford internet access or in areas where it’s still a task to even get decent roads owing to the terrain. They know that their audience is limited compared to before but also they are completely at their mercy and hence will take what they can get.

I mean look at it, previously they had to ensure all characters had different personalities which is evident in Kyunki itself. Take the OG cast - Savita, Daksha and Gayatri were as different as they could be, their sons were also all allowed to have their own personalities. They worked on their styling and mannerisms.

You had original songs written for shows or even if they adapted a song from a movie, the PH would get a lyricist to write new verses on an already popular song that would fit the narrative of their show and characters. They got music directors and singers to record the new verses set to the melody and tune of the original, without disturbing or disrupting its authenticity but making it their own. Kyunki had an original 4 line song for Anupam Kesar! And Anupam Kesar weren’t even the parallel leads! Anurag Prerna, Sujal Kashish are now more popularly associated with Ajeeb Dastaan Hai Ye and Thoda Sa Pyar Hua Hai than the actors those songs were originally shot on in the movies. Can you think of one show these days that doesn’t simply play existing songs from movies as they are and then never bothers to revisit the song again? Any show with more than one original song that’s not their title track? Heck title tracks and closing credits aren’t even played anymore in most shows.

Previously shows featured women in stronger roles without making them fight over a single man or being the object of obsession of any man either. Shows like Shanti, Itihaas (ironically by Ekta herself), Rajni, Tara etc. all had such strong women as their leads as well as side characters and their romantic relationships were a part of their stories but not the whole focus of the story itself. That’s why you didn’t constantly see a single man being perused by a number of women like Mihir or the same woman being fixated on the guy to ruin his life like Komolika.

Shows could run on the basis of story alone without resorting to unnecessary EMAs. You wanna see a fantastic piece of performance by a male actor? I suggest watch Koshish starring Varun Badola and Sandhya Mridul. Ironically the show is made by Ekta too. It features him as a mentally stunted man who is married to this girl. She’s duped into the marriage and only on her wedding night does she discover that her husband is mentally unstable. She’s extremely poor and he’s from a rich family. The show deals with her journey of fighting to get out of this marriage, coming to terms with her situation of being unable to do anything about it, slowly becoming friends with her husband who is mentally no more than 5 and then how she discovers his mental state is not natural but one imposed upon him. She slowly helps heal him and has to deal with their changing equation while now, when she’s in love with him there are people trying to end their marriage by trying his mental state to go public and get him sent to an asylum for good, just so that the mystery of who is responsible for his state is not revealed and so that he doesn’t get healed.

Varun Badola is fantastic in that show and by far one of the finest actors on Indian TV for that show alone even now. Watch his other show, Astitva. He marries a woman a decade his senior because she’s absolutely gorgeous and he’s smitten by her at first sight. The catch, her age makes it difficult for them to continue their conjugal relationship whilst she’s pregnant with his child. He ends up cheating on her because he’s sexually frustrated and gets attracted to a model he’s working with. The show deals with the repercussions of being in relationships based on attraction alone thinking love triumphs all but is an ugly mirror as to how all relationships have their challenges and attraction might help start a relationship but it’s not enough to sustain it after a point.

Shanti was about a woman who was trying to discover her father, so as to get him punished. She’s born as a result of the sexual assault of her mother. She discovers her mother was assaulted by likely one of the two most powerful men in the news industry itself and so her challenge as a journalist and as a daughter is even more uphill.

Name one show these days that can be compared with a Shanti, Astitva or Koshish.

Men in those shows had to perform too because they weren’t more than just eye candy or show pieces giving Pikachu reaction faces. Nowadays they have no real impact and importance and so we get what we get.

Originally posted by: EkPaheli

Blunt answer - because things are not as before.

Previously social media had no role in what made a person popular or who could even be considered an actor. Now everyone with a phone is an actor, anyone can be popular with one stupid reel. You don’t have to struggle to get selected and you don’t need to be good to play any part on TV if you can be considered popular on social media.

Showmakers themselves are not as passionate anymore. They know the times have changed. Previously while there were a handful of channels airing serials, they had to be good to ensure that their show was the one being watched by viewers because they could always switch to a movie/news/music/devotional/regional/sports channel. They had to fight for attention, and so they put in the efforts in every department.
Now they know with social media and OTT platforms they’re already fighting a losing battle. Men as it is didn’t really tune into these shows, younger generation is more addicted to social media and content on OTT platforms from across the world where they don’t even stand a chance. Their only audience is the one who is technologically challenged like grandmums and the ones who are not in a financial position to afford internet access or in areas where it’s still a task to even get decent roads owing to the terrain. They know that their audience is limited compared to before but also they are completely at their mercy and hence will take what they can get.

I mean look at it, previously they had to ensure all characters had different personalities which is evident in Kyunki itself. Take the OG cast - Savita, Daksha and Gayatri were as different as they could be, their sons were also all allowed to have their own personalities. They worked on their styling and mannerisms.

You had original songs written for shows or even if they adapted a song from a movie, the PH would get a lyricist to write new verses on an already popular song that would fit the narrative of their show and characters. They got music directors and singers to record the new verses set to the melody and tune of the original, without disturbing or disrupting its authenticity but making it their own. Kyunki had an original 4 line song for Anupam Kesar! And Anupam Kesar weren’t even the parallel leads! Anurag Prerna, Sujal Kashish are now more popularly associated with Ajeeb Dastaan Hai Ye and Thoda Sa Pyar Hua Hai than the actors those songs were originally shot on in the movies. Can you think of one show these days that doesn’t simply play existing songs from movies as they are and then never bothers to revisit the song again? Any show with more than one original song that’s not their title track? Heck title tracks and closing credits aren’t even played anymore in most shows.

Previously shows featured women in stronger roles without making them fight over a single man or being the object of obsession of any man either. Shows like Shanti, Itihaas (ironically by Ekta herself), Rajni, Tara etc. all had such strong women as their leads as well as side characters and their romantic relationships were a part of their stories but not the whole focus of the story itself. That’s why you didn’t constantly see a single man being perused by a number of women like Mihir or the same woman being fixated on the guy to ruin his life like Komolika.

Shows could run on the basis of story alone without resorting to unnecessary EMAs. You wanna see a fantastic piece of performance by a male actor? I suggest watch Koshish starring Varun Badola and Sandhya Mridul. Ironically the show is made by Ekta too. It features him as a mentally stunted man who is married to this girl. She’s duped into the marriage and only on her wedding night does she discover that her husband is mentally unstable. She’s extremely poor and he’s from a rich family. The show deals with her journey of fighting to get out of this marriage, coming to terms with her situation of being unable to do anything about it, slowly becoming friends with her husband who is mentally no more than 5 and then how she discovers his mental state is not natural but one imposed upon him. She slowly helps heal him and has to deal with their changing equation while now, when she’s in love with him there are people trying to end their marriage by trying his mental state to go public and get him sent to an asylum for good, just so that the mystery of who is responsible for his state is not revealed and so that he doesn’t get healed.

Varun Badola is fantastic in that show and by far one of the finest actors on Indian TV for that show alone even now. Watch his other show, Astitva. He marries a woman a decade his senior because she’s absolutely gorgeous and he’s smitten by her at first sight. The catch, her age makes it difficult for them to continue their conjugal relationship whilst she’s pregnant with his child. He ends up cheating on her because he’s sexually frustrated and gets attracted to a model he’s working with. The show deals with the repercussions of being in relationships based on attraction alone thinking love triumphs all but is an ugly mirror as to how all relationships have their challenges and attraction might help start a relationship but it’s not enough to sustain it after a point.

Shanti was about a woman who was trying to discover her father, so as to get him punished. She’s born as a result of the sexual assault of her mother. She discovers her mother was assaulted by likely one of the two most powerful men in the news industry itself and so her challenge as a journalist and as a daughter is even more uphill.

Name one show these days that can be compared with a Shanti, Astitva or Koshish.

Men in those shows had to perform too because they weren’t more than just eye candy or show pieces giving Pikachu reaction faces. Nowadays they have no real impact and importance and so we get what we get.

Originally posted by: BangBang_Shilpa

In this season, Nandini is not biological mother of Parth.

Oh, aisa kyu kara makers ne 🤔

Originally posted by: xnbstar

Oh, aisa kyu kara makers ne 🤔

Tanya's son

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/kyunki-saas-bhi-kabhi-bahu-thi-2/5377281/parth-identity

Originally posted by: The_Best

I don’t like none of them. Ranvijay is good but he’s a negative character. Still good as he suits the role and acts fine with what he’s given. Parth is good but the actor is weak. Angad toh both the character and actor are weak. Rithik character is strong but actor is very weak

Understandable!

I feel individual perspectives play the key role in perceiving ones ability to perform better.

Only Angad is better for me. Rithik sometimes acts well, especially in scenes with Vrindang, which were nice, but all other actors were less competent and I'm always skipping their parts always.

Originally posted by: The_Best

I agree with all this and understand your point, but they are still taking decent actresses for the female roles but don’t bother at all with the male ones. These male characters have tracks/love story, so they could’ve chosen to take good actors. I am sure they can find good new comers among 1.4 billion population because the current ones bring down the scenes with their weak acting. So it affects the show in the end

Because that’s the bare minimum required of them.

Shows are completely female centric, you can’t have a show working without the women themselves being beautiful and capable. They compromise on the male actors because they are not making a romantic show out and out reliant prominently on their chemistry. You can’t have a Kahiin Toh Hoga work the way it did without a Rajeev Khandelval to compliment and look sizzling with Aamna Shariff. You can run Kyunki with any male actor playing Mihir simply by ensuring he’s in the same age group as Tulsi and they don’t look odd together when they have scenes. That’s the point. KTH falls flat from day one if you can’t get your couple right because the premise itself is based on their love story like KZK. You can run a Kyunki for years without the man for whom the whole country wept and went in an uproar to get him back.

Originally posted by: The_Best

that’s like a female character having curly hair can’t be positive. But I am glad they broke that stereotype by making Nandini having both curly hair and wear modern clothes in OG Kyunki. At least one Bahu was different than the others

Cezanne wore gold chains too and he remained Anurag