Jhanak Written Update And Episode Discussion thread No "126" - Page 79

Originally posted by: asmitamohanty

At one point it was crystal clear that Leena never wanted to tell Ani–Jhanak’s love story. She wanted to retell Jol Nupur, but with a heavy Arshi bias. Except unlike Jol Nupur, here Arshi is glorified beyond logic,Jhanak is denied even a dignified ending or flourishing career.

Leena didn’t write a love triangle.She wrote a worship saga of Arshi with collateral characters orbiting her.

And now that we see her original intent, everything in Jhanak (Hindi) makes sense — every twist, every whitewash, every humiliation is designed to protect one character at all costs...

But She didn’t account for organic chemistry.She didn’t expect Krushal’s vulnerability and Hiba’s quiet strength and Anirudh and Jhanak to click so powerfully. She didn’t imagine that RuNak — a dynamic probably meant to be a stepping stone — would become the emotional nucleus of the show. She didn’t foresee fans rejecting her “designated Devi” and instead resonating with a flawed, raw, painfully human bond.Her plan was clear.But Krushi happened.RuNak happened.And the people chose differently

Lol...Arshi devi ki baat jitna kam kare utna behtar hai...this character was so narcissistic and manipulative that it made the actor playing it display subtle signs of narcissism...

Originally posted by: Dibya_C

Lol...Arshi devi ki baat jitna kam kare utna behtar hai...this character was so narcissistic and manipulative that it made the actor playing it display subtle signs of narcissism...

Waise how are the actors in Bengali Roshnai? Were they good actors? I know that Sean was playing Anirudh character...

Originally posted by: asmitamohanty

Waise how are the actors in Bengali Roshnai? Were they good actors? I know that Sean was playing Anirudh character...

I did not follow the serial actually...I didn't follow Sean's earlier works also...but I know he has a massive fan following for two of his romantic shows...but here, as many clips as I have seen in IG/FB, his acting was flat...and it became more apparent as the comparison was with an actor like Krushal..

The first actor playing Roshnai left mid way...PH and the actor said that it's due to her ill health...but most audience believed that the decision was taken by the actor herself seeing the character graph of Jhanak..the replacement actor had no chemistry with Sean, did not know dancing and was unsuitable to play the titular character..

The actor playing Arshi was an impressive one... she was good looking, had a good chemistry with Sean and had been a way better actor than Chandni... moreover, Arshi in the Bengali version was softer compared to that in Jhanak...and all these were intentional as the PH saw how KrusHi tarnished their grand plans of selling Arshi bhakti to the audience without any hindrance...

Originally posted by: Dibya_C

You understood the pain of a Bengali... it's shameful that she is showing such filth in national tv after ruining the regional tv..non Bengali audience has grown all the wrong kind of mindset about Bengalis after her portrayal of Bengali households in Jhanak and Ishani..

Entire duration of Jhanak, there was reference to no cultural affinity of the Bengalis, there love for festivities like Durga puja, food and fun...bass toxicity se bhari padi hui thi puri ki puri show...one day I saw a portrait of Rabindranath Thakur on the wall of the hall of previous Bose House set...man hi man bol rahi thi jaldi se utaro uss portrait ko diwaar se...that portrait doesn't deserve to be hanging on to that wall, amid such filth..

Dibya, if you don't think i am rubbing salt on your injuries, that Tagore portrait had caught my attention everytime it appeared in the frame... and it took my thoughts to the many wonderful Bengali stories/novels...

From very old days, Bengali stories had EMA as the central or important theme... Devdass is the most popular case in point... AmarPrem Saheb Bibi Gulam.. many more...

But the beauty of these stories was that it never appeared as cringeEMA.. it was decent, portrayed in a very humane way.. not immoral, lowgrade romance or silly flirting but a serious dedication, pious longing towards the other person...

Affection between otherwise illegit couple was so cleanly portrayed that one could accuse the ema of only anyaay(unjustified towards current marriage) but never adharmic ...

this ema had the support of 'love is the most superior form of dharma' sentiment...

the audience would be compelled to accept that the current spouse is the real baggage and must voluntarily excuse him/herself out of the marriage to even remain dignified..

the most religiously inclined audience wouldn't be offended when the current marriage is dissolved to make way for the 'correct' couple ...

Such character building is the only way to make EMA acceptable.. both women or both men are never given equal status..

So when i learnt Jhanak is from a Bengali PH, I felt ok to subscribe for the ema centric story... And to be fare, at no part of the complete s1 i got the unclean adharmic ugly disrespectful embarrassing type ema vibe that i would run away from.. Hands down the credit goes to KA... for me HN fell short in many scenes ( i don't mean she gave the cringe ema vibe but her emoting/body language left me asking for better).

Anirudh Bose had shifted being J/Arshi husband with fullscale husband rights/duties so many times in s1.. but KA would enact AB/J as couple parts so distinctly from AB/Arshi as couple that AB/J had gained my full unreserved sympathy... i never had to deal with the cheapness of ek-ladka-do-ladkiyaan..

i won't award the same sympathy to counterpart Imlie character which is the parent-story of Jhanak...

And Yogi is a good director.. he knew how long a touch, a stare should last in a given context to create the right impact. i can't say the same of Imlie.. And i can't definitely say this for Bindi director... Bindi is like watching discontiguous frames of a video ... like watching highlights of a test match... when how a character entered a shot and how it left the scene is all executed like the Director is only capturing a few important snapshots...

Originally posted by: kvpav

Dibya, if you don't think i am rubbing salt on your injuries, that Tagore portrait had caught my attention everytime it appeared in the frame... and it took my thoughts to the many wonderful Bengali stories/novels...

From very old days, Bengali stories had EMA as the central or important theme... Devdass is the most popular case in point... AmarPrem Saheb Bibi Gulam.. many more...

But the beauty of these stories was that it never appeared as cringeEMA.. it was decent, portrayed in a very humane way.. not immoral, lowgrade romance or silly flirting but a serious dedication, pious longing towards the other person...

Affection between otherwise illegit couple was so cleanly portrayed that one could accuse the ema of only anyaay(unjustified towards current marriage) but never adharmic ...

this ema had the support of 'love is the most superior form of dharma' sentiment...

the audience would be compelled to accept that the current spouse is the real baggage and must voluntarily excuse him/herself out of the marriage to even remain dignified..

the most religiously inclined audience wouldn't be offended when the current marriage is dissolved to make way for the 'correct' couple ...

Such character building is the only way to make EMA acceptable.. both women or both men are never given equal status..

So when i learnt Jhanak is from a Bengali PH, I felt ok to subscribe for the ema centric story... And to be fare, at no part of the complete s1 i got the unclean adharmic ugly disrespectful embarrassing type ema vibe that i would run away from.. Hands down the credit goes to KA... for me HN fell short in many scenes ( i don't mean she gave the cringe ema vibe but her emoting/body language left me asking for better).

Anirudh Bose had shifted being J/Arshi husband with fullscale husband rights/duties so many times in s1.. but KA would enact AB/J as couple parts so distinctly from AB/Arshi as couple that AB/J had gained my full unreserved sympathy... i never had to deal with the cheapness of ek-ladka-do-ladkiyaan..

i won't award the same sympathy to counterpart Imlie character which is the parent-story of Jhanak...

And Yogi is a good director.. he knew how long a touch, a stare should last in a given context to create the right impact. i can't say the same of Imlie.. And i can't definitely say this for Bindi director... Bindi is like watching discontiguous frames of a video ... like watching highlights of a test match... when how a character entered a shot and how it left the scene is all executed like the Director is only capturing a few important snapshots...

The boldest EMAs Tagore wrote are Chokher Bali (at the backdrop of the ill effects of early widowhood), Ghare Baire (at the backdrop of Swadeshi movement) and Noukadubi (first Indian novel on bride swap)...if possible do read these creations..

Coming to the point of Imlie connect in Jhanak...well... it's a forced juxtaposition of Imlie (OG is Ishti Kutum) to stretch Jhanak to gen 2..I guess, Leena would not have taken this route, if gen leap was not planned for the show...her plan was to go Jol Nupur way where Ani will be tied to Arshi for the kid and Jhanak will have a solo journey dedicated to dance...but then how will she keep repeating her filthy display of PL victimisation, EMA, good for nothing ML and an irritating FL, if Jhanak 1 is established in life and leading an independent life? Gen 1 ending was required (acc to Leena) coz she wanted to remake Ishti Kutum, again (once sone in Imlie), as her templates are numbered.

Originally posted by: kvpav

Dibya, if you don't think i am rubbing salt on your injuries, that Tagore portrait had caught my attention everytime it appeared in the frame... and it took my thoughts to the many wonderful Bengali stories/novels...

From very old days, Bengali stories had EMA as the central or important theme... Devdass is the most popular case in point... AmarPrem Saheb Bibi Gulam.. many more...

But the beauty of these stories was that it never appeared as cringeEMA.. it was decent, portrayed in a very humane way.. not immoral, lowgrade romance or silly flirting but a serious dedication, pious longing towards the other person...

Affection between otherwise illegit couple was so cleanly portrayed that one could accuse the ema of only anyaay(unjustified towards current marriage) but never adharmic ...

this ema had the support of 'love is the most superior form of dharma' sentiment...

the audience would be compelled to accept that the current spouse is the real baggage and must voluntarily excuse him/herself out of the marriage to even remain dignified..

the most religiously inclined audience wouldn't be offended when the current marriage is dissolved to make way for the 'correct' couple ...

Such character building is the only way to make EMA acceptable.. both women or both men are never given equal status..

So when i learnt Jhanak is from a Bengali PH, I felt ok to subscribe for the ema centric story... And to be fare, at no part of the complete s1 i got the unclean adharmic ugly disrespectful embarrassing type ema vibe that i would run away from.. Hands down the credit goes to KA... for me HN fell short in many scenes ( i don't mean she gave the cringe ema vibe but her emoting/body language left me asking for better).

Anirudh Bose had shifted being J/Arshi husband with fullscale husband rights/duties so many times in s1.. but KA would enact AB/J as couple parts so distinctly from AB/Arshi as couple that AB/J had gained my full unreserved sympathy... i never had to deal with the cheapness of ek-ladka-do-ladkiyaan..

i won't award the same sympathy to counterpart Imlie character which is the parent-story of Jhanak...

And Yogi is a good director.. he knew how long a touch, a stare should last in a given context to create the right impact. i can't say the same of Imlie.. And i can't definitely say this for Bindi director... Bindi is like watching discontiguous frames of a video ... like watching highlights of a test match... when how a character entered a shot and how it left the scene is all executed like the Director is only capturing a few important snapshots...

I don’t think EMA is the central theme of these stories but rather in those times, the stories reflected the changing social mores. It was a commentary on the patriarchal society and the pressures that exist within the institution of marriage and these themes were recurring ones and in my view it was explored within all cultures where literature waa/is a dominant force

Originally posted by: kvpav

i won't award the same sympathy to counterpart Imlie character which is the parent-story of Jhanak...

And Yogi is a good director.. he knew how long a touch, a stare should last in a given context to create the right impact. i can't say the same of Imlie.. And i can't definitely say this for Bindi director... Bindi is like watching discontiguous frames of a video ... like watching highlights of a test match... when how a character entered a shot and how it left the scene is all executed like the Director is only capturing a few important snapshots...

You clearly hold Krushal in VERY high esteem as an actor. Interesting

Re: Yogi....if as you are saying he's such a good director who knows exactly how long to time a look/touch, how come the same impact is not coming through in Gen 2 where he is still the director? I would have to disagree about the acclaim being heaped on Mr. Yogi as a director....I've seen way better directors than him on ITV.....he is as much of a gaslighting director as Leena is a gaslighting writer....no wonder a dream team then that has churned out 700+ episodes of this garbage.

Re: Imlie....curious what episodes you watched that you found the direction so lacking. My estimation was that the direction of the first 100 episodes was quite good in showcasing the story with a grounded/earthy vibe. The village vibe in Imlie was actually organic while everything in Jhanak was more cosmopolitan....never had that rooted mitti ki khushboo vibe.

And I'm sure you will disagree but Gashmeer is a far better actor than Krushal