Mannat Har Khushi Paane Ki: Episode Discussion Thread - 20 - Page 82

Originally posted by: Rdigest

Meine insta par dekha. Unable to use VPN

OMG this changes my whole perspective of the scene. So he did say he doesn't believe he could do this, this is good, hopefully Mannat gives his words a thought 🤞

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DLymRNIzZ7u/?igsh=Y3o1czRoNjQzYmY=

Check in this clip... towards the end

Originally posted by: Rdigest

Bold, remember the hall drama about drugs which made Mannat angry at Vikrant for wanting to do rafa dafa with a.sorry

The more scenes I am remembering, the more I feel sorry for him

The very first scene i remember is him saying sorry to Malla and Aish the day Neetu came and taunted Malla for her short dress 🙄

Malla couldn't bend and take aashirwad 🫢

Originally posted by: Moor278

The very first scene i remember is him saying sorry to Malla and Aish the day Neetu came and taunted Malla for her short dress 🙄

Malla couldn't bend and take aashirwad 🫢

There are countless such scenes of him asking maafee and this is why he expects Mannat to do the same.

If you notice , Malla actually uses this same tactic to be in his good books and says sorry for anything under the sun where as Mannat won't apologize unless she thinks there is a need. Vikrant easily falls for Malla's tactics since he is trained to fall for this trap and questions Mannat constantly since she doesn't fit the bill.

Originally posted by: Rdigest

So, I will be honest I am still confused if I have the full version

Vikrant says he was in nasha and doesn't remember what , when or anything since she broke his heart. He didn't say he cannot do this nor claimed he didn't do it.

What can Mannat say to him here, I am confused? If Vikrant had said, I cannot do this and Mannat doesn't believe, then we can question her trust on him naa 🤔

I maybe missing a nuance here on why we think Mannat is not trusting him. Would love to get your perspective from the other discussion.

Honestly I am discounting some of their words to their anger...

Like even in this scene... Mannat tells him that pyar vo hai jab bharosa karna hota hai.. sabse mushkil ghadi main bhi...

At the risk of offending some fans... I would say Mannat is not being true to her words in this moment.

If she cant trust Vik wouldnt sleep with Malla... is it wrong if he too goes by the face value of her words and thinks she is a gold digger???

I am not saying both are right or wrong... they were very very angry at this moment (please remember its only been few hours for the characters🤣)... so their harsh words are expected.

Both are expecting unquestionable trust from each other but not ready to give it at this moment.

There shouldn't be much scrutiny of it.

What I loved is there is no scope of MU... itna clearly mujhe to yaad nahi hai leads ko communicate karte hue 😝😝

Most importantly Vik got the answer he was looking for... Ms. Mannat loves him too 🫢

Originally posted by: Rdigest

There are countless such scenes of him asking maafee and this is why he expects Mannat to do the same.

If you notice , Malla actually uses this same tactic to be in his good books and says sorry for anything under the sun where as Mannat won't apologize unless she thinks there is a need. Vikrant easily falls for Malla's tactics since he is trained to fall for this trap and questions Mannat constantly since she doesn't fit the bill.

Excellent point 😆😆😆

Mannat behaves like pichla janam in such situations 🤣🤣🤣

Originally posted by: Moor278

Let me just try to explain what I meant...

Keerat is the first one to spot them and questions what they were up to at which Malla had already told him that she has fallen in love and let it happen even though he was imagining Mannat.

All three persons ... RoTu and Keerat question him on his urges... because Malla nicely plays Victim in front of them and takes the blame. But as usually happens... sympathy lies with the girl and this time its their own family member.

Neetu questions why didn't he control himself if he had no feelings?

Keerat questions his motives when he says I dont remember... portraying it as to mean that he implies Malla is a liar. And Mallas repo is spoiled if this comes out.

Ronnie questions him what did he cross his limits and he wont let him commit another mistake by not owning up to the one he has already done... by making it look like he uses girls...

And in today's episode Mannat says the same thing to him... that it was easy for him to go in arms of another girl if she was not there.

What I am trying to link with his passion angle is the elders didnt knew he imagined Mannat... Does that mean its okay??? No ... but then it raises questions on Mallas morality. When this crucial detail didnt come out, the fault is squarely placed on him....and not Malla.

Had they known this... they would have questioned Malla too... as to why did she let it happen. By taking the blame, Malla avoided taking the moral falling for being Mannats proxy.

To me it looked like all of them are blaming him that he took advantage of Mallas consent and has no plans to take responsibility now that he is sober.

That he gave on to his urges and Malla being the poor little girl couldn't control him.

I am guessing this is why he is apologetic... Malla already told him she fell in love during this fake marriage saga... something which he didnt stop on time... again indirectly blaming him. Thats probably why for him Malla is a victim.

I am totally not saying that what Malla did is right... but I am trying to find reasons why Vik doesnt feel it is so...

Because everyone or anyone who can put that in his mind and support him is not trusting him.

Tag me when you watch the second part... lets discuss further.

P.S. I am as confused as you guys are... just trying to make some sense.

@Moor

Again amazingly written and agree with you.
why Vikrant isn’t getting angry and he should question Malla?
But if you see from his POV he is guilty for not stopping that fake drama sooner and Malla started to develop feelings for him that’s what she told him. If you recall their earlier conversation also he was in fact telling her sorry that I dragged you in to this mess. In fact it’s Malla who dragged him but he believed her as his friend and trying to help him. If you see ONS morning also, Malla actually took the blame and told him don’t worry I will not tell anyone about this. So for that also he is feeling guilty.

Again agree on that Mannat angle. He imagined Mannat instead of Malla. Now family don’t know about this and they thought Vikrant did cross his limit with Malla and now he is not fulfilling his moral duty of marrying her. They threatened him and on ethical ground he agreed to marry her because he thought he did wrong with Malla when Malla was trying to help him and he took advantage of situation though he was not in his senses. If you see Malla very clearly played her game and made him a pawn. So him not getting angry and questioning Malla makes sense because he thinks he did wrong with her. But I really hope that changes very soon🤞.

Who said about Neetu’s upbringing?

Again on point. No doubt she raised a gentleman and a noble soul but her emotional blackmail is really a problem. Neetu every time emotionally manipulates him so he will always listen to her. And if you see today she again manipulated him by saying see I was right about Mannat but you didn’t listen to me🤬. I think Vikrant also gives in because he don’t want to upset his mom and get the situation under control. Tomorrow also he will say sorry to ARS because again he is feeling that he is at fault for saying no to Malla initially and that’s why ARS took this drastic step to give up on her shares.
TBH if you look at his situation he is in fact in deep trouble because he is emotionally manipulated by his family and problem is that he thinks he is at fault for whatever is happening regarding Mannat.
See everyone knows that he loves Mannat and he always supported her but now in this changing scenario again everyone is blaming him for whatever Mannat is doing. In a way he feels responsible for all the mess💔😢.

About Vikrant and Mannat’s confrontation I think they both were feeling cheated by each other. Mannat was angry because he didn’t wait and spent night with Malla ,got married to her when he claimed to love her.
As per Vikrant she sold his love to ARS and not just broke his heart but him also💔😢.

Anything I missed?

Originally posted by: Moor278

Bold...

Thank you for saying this... I did not want to say it 🫢🫢🫢

People wpuld think i am reading too much... guess i am not alone 😆😆😆

Mujhe filmo ki FLs jaisa laga who break their chudiyan or wipe the sindoor after the husband dies 🙄🙄🙄

Since you both were discussing the scene

https://x.com/yaadonkibaraat_/status/1942252699795210509?t=FQGHiignQGxOHzncB8tZdA&s=19

Originally posted by: Moor278

Honestly I am discounting some of their words to their anger...

Like even in this scene... Mannat tells him that pyar vo hai jab bharosa karna hota hai.. sabse mushkil ghadi main bhi...

At the risk of offending some fans... I would say Mannat is not being true to her words in this moment.

If she cant trust Vik wouldnt sleep with Malla... is it wrong if he too goes by the face value of her words and thinks she is a gold digger???

I am not saying both are right or wrong... they were very very angry at this moment (please remember its only been few hours for the characters🤣)... so their harsh words are expected.

Both are expecting unquestionable trust from each other but not ready to give it at this moment.

There shouldn't be much scrutiny of it.

What I loved is there is no scope of MU... itna clearly mujhe to yaad nahi hai leads ko communicate karte hue 😝😝

Most importantly Vik got the answer he was looking for... Ms. Mannat loves him too 🫢

I am all for Vikrant believing Mannat is a gold digger and he should since that's how she even entered the house

My confusion is about the last scene where Vikrant says he was drunk, should Mannat question if he had a ONS or not? If so why ? If I understood the scene, he never even said he doesn't believe he can do this. Why would Mannat doubt nothing happened, where is the question about trust here 🤔

We may probably be going In circles like the makers want us to regarding the scene

Originally posted by: Moor278

Honestly I am discounting some of their words to their anger...

Like even in this scene... Mannat tells him that pyar vo hai jab bharosa karna hota hai.. sabse mushkil ghadi main bhi...

At the risk of offending some fans... I would say Mannat is not being true to her words in this moment.

If she cant trust Vik wouldnt sleep with Malla... is it wrong if he too goes by the face value of her words and thinks she is a gold digger???

I am not saying both are right or wrong... they were very very angry at this moment (please remember its only been few hours for the characters🤣)... so their harsh words are expected.

Both are expecting unquestionable trust from each other but not ready to give it at this moment.

There shouldn't be much scrutiny of it.

What I loved is there is no scope of MU... itna clearly mujhe to yaad nahi hai leads ko communicate karte hue 😝😝

Most importantly Vik got the answer he was looking for... Ms. Mannat loves him too 🫢

Yaar Vikrant ne ek baar bhi trust nai Kia kabhi Mannat pe. Not even a single time. First few situations chalo Mannat was an outsider and it was right for Vikrant not to believe just on face value but when he started falling for her & they used to have fights tab bhi he didnt try to support her. Every time Mannat had to prove to him.

Chalo 100% trust na karo but kam se kam khud ek baar alag se verify bhi toh kar sakta tha. But nai Kia. This is lazy writing though, not exactly blaming Vikrant’s overall character per say.

Abhi, uske badle mei Mannat ne if for the first time didn't believe him then i dont think it's an issue. Hisaab baraabar. Saying this from their anger point of view (today's episode- their pent up anger).

And on top of that, the guy publically proposes to Nalla, does rituals with Mannu & then gets married with Nalla. Mannu gets to know out of nowhere that Vikrant spent night with Nalla toh Mannu ko toh yehi lagega ki ladka kabhi pyaar karta hi nai tha...doubt toh kisi bhi ladki ko aise situation mei hoga. Dono ko bass mile 4-5 months hi huye.

Love or arranged marriages as old as 23-24 years fall apart bcz of infidelity. And incase of ManVik, Vikrant didn't even publically propose her.

Thank you Trupti

Not mentioning Mannat makes it look worse for Vik... as I said in another post.. everyone knows his craze for Mannat and yet of he does this kaand with Malla it is like he is demeaning both girls