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Posted: 6 months ago
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There are multiple versions of Ramayana, however, they all differ from the authentic version of Valmiki Ramayana.

Here are incidences that are not mentioned in Valmiki Ramayana:

There was no swayamwar held for Sita and Shri Ram.

Ahilya never turned into a stone. Instead she was cursed to live on air devoid of food and water for thousands years until Shri Ram doesn't visit her.

Shri Ram did not lay his feet on Ahilya. Instead he clasped her leg and thus she got her back the lustre and zest which she had lost after the curse.

There was no lakshman rekha drawn by Lakshman before he left to help Shri Ram.

Shri Ram never knew in advance about Sita's abduction. He didn't ask Agni to create a Maya Sita. It was real Sita who was abducted by Ravana.

Ravan never carried Sita by the land she was standing on. He literally snatched her by hair and lifted her by her thighs while abducting.

There was no mention of Vali acquiring away half power of whom he fought with.

Neither Hanuman nor the vanar sena have any weapon. They rather used mountains, boulders and trees to fight the battle.

There was no RAM written on the stones thrown for building the bridge. They rather used boulders, trees, stones to build the bridge.

Vibhishan never directed Hanuman in Lanka about the whereabouts of Sita.

Lakshman was injured by Ravana's javelin. He was injured twice but the second time it was grave.

There was no mention of Sahasra ravan or Sita taking the form of Maa Kali to kill him.

There was no Ahiravan, the elder brother of Ravan who lived in Patal Loka and for killing whom Hanuman took the form of Panch mukhi Hanuman.

Sushena was not a physician from Lanka, but the father in law of Sugriva, alias Tara’s father.

Hanuman was not shot by Bharata while the former was carrying the Sanjeevani herb for treating Lakshman.

In Valmiki Ramayana, Vishnu promises to take birth as the sons of Dasharatha during the yagna. However, Shri Ram, born in the human form is not aware that he is Vishnu till the end. Moreover, unlike other versions he is not aware of Ravana coming to abduct Sita and more. It is in the end where Brahma reminds Shri Ram to be Vishnu himself and Sita to be Lakshmi.

Ravan had never captured all the 12 planets, nor did he press Shani below his legs.

There was no episode of Ravana’s men trying to lift Angad's feet.

Ravan had never prepared any separate horoscope for Meghnad nor threatened the planets to change their places.

Vibhishan never directed Shri Ram about how to kill Ravana.

There was no amrit in his stomach. Shri Ram hit the arrow presided by Brahma that pierced his heart.

Shri Ram did not send Lakshman to learn from Ravan on deathbed.

Ravana was never a shivbhakt. Neither did Mahadeva bestow any boon onto him.

There is no mention of Makardhwaj, the son of Hanuman born through his sweat that fell into the ocean while coming back from Lanka.

Ravan was never the presiding priest for helping Shri Ram build the bridge.

Ravana was never informed about Shri Ram's birth, neither did he kidnap Kaushalya in a box to defy the prophesy.

Sita was never born to Mandodari and Ravan.

Hanuman wasn't sent by Shri Ram to inform Sita about the victory and get her back. It was Vibhishan who was alloted the task.

Shri Ram never asked Sita to give agnipariksha. Sita being hurt by his reproachment decides to get into fire, and asks Lakshman to set the pyre.

Ravana never abducted Sita for seeking Mukti in the hands of Shri Ram. He was predominantly driven by lust.

Ravana was never pious to have not touched Sita. Instead he was scared for his life due to a curse hurled on him, which meant touching any women without her permission will get his head burst into pieces.

Sati never came to meet Shri Ram in the guise of Sita to test his love for Sita.

There is no mention of Ravana singing Shiv Tandav Stotra in Valmiki Ramayana.

It did not take 18 days for Shri Ram to reach Ayodhya from Lanka.

There is no mention of Shri Ram getting Mandodari married to Vibhishan after the war.

There is no mention of Lava and Kusha stopping Shri Ram's ashwamedh horse or having any fight with Shatrugna or Shri Ram. It is not part of Uttara Kanda by Valmiki.

Urmila did not sleep for 14 years nor Lakshman stayed awake for 14 years.

Shabri did not feed half eaten fruits to Shri Ram.

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Posted: 6 months ago
#72

Originally posted by: Celinacrescent

Face blindness aam bhasha mein bole toh..aapko bhanasur or yeh Naya asur same lag raha hai kya ??

Ha ha ha aur aapko joke samaj nahi aaya tha shayad 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤪🤪🤪🤪

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Posted: 6 months ago
#73

Wow girl you wrote them all out.

I was gonna suggest we all discuss everything after show ended to help keep the livelyhood of forum.

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Posted: 6 months ago
#74

Originally posted by: Celinacrescent

There are multiple versions of Ramayana, however, they all differ from the authentic version of Valmiki Ramayana.

Here are incidences that are not mentioned in Valmiki Ramayana:

There was no swayamwar held for Sita and Shri Ram.

Ahilya never turned into a stone. Instead she was cursed to live on air devoid of food and water for thousands years until Shri Ram doesn't visit her.

Shri Ram did not lay his feet on Ahilya. Instead he clasped her leg and thus she got her back the lustre and zest which she had lost after the curse.

There was no lakshman rekha drawn by Lakshman before he left to help Shri Ram.

Shri Ram never knew in advance about Sita's abduction. He didn't ask Agni to create a Maya Sita. It was real Sita who was abducted by Ravana.

Ravan never carried Sita by the land she was standing on. He literally snatched her by hair and lifted her by her thighs while abducting.

There was no mention of Vali acquiring away half power of whom he fought with.

Neither Hanuman nor the vanar sena have any weapon. They rather used mountains, boulders and trees to fight the battle.

There was no RAM written on the stones thrown for building the bridge. They rather used boulders, trees, stones to build the bridge.

Vibhishan never directed Hanuman in Lanka about the whereabouts of Sita.

Lakshman was injured by Ravana's javelin. He was injured twice but the second time it was grave.

There was no mention of Sahasra ravan or Sita taking the form of Maa Kali to kill him.

There was no Ahiravan, the elder brother of Ravan who lived in Patal Loka and for killing whom Hanuman took the form of Panch mukhi Hanuman.

Sushena was not a physician from Lanka, but the father in law of Sugriva, alias Tara’s father.

Hanuman was not shot by Bharata while the former was carrying the Sanjeevani herb for treating Lakshman.

In Valmiki Ramayana, Vishnu promises to take birth as the sons of Dasharatha during the yagna. However, Shri Ram, born in the human form is not aware that he is Vishnu till the end. Moreover, unlike other versions he is not aware of Ravana coming to abduct Sita and more. It is in the end where Brahma reminds Shri Ram to be Vishnu himself and Sita to be Lakshmi.

Ravan had never captured all the 12 planets, nor did he press Shani below his legs.

There was no episode of Ravana’s men trying to lift Angad's feet.

Ravan had never prepared any separate horoscope for Meghnad nor threatened the planets to change their places.

Vibhishan never directed Shri Ram about how to kill Ravana.

There was no amrit in his stomach. Shri Ram hit the arrow presided by Brahma that pierced his heart.

Shri Ram did not send Lakshman to learn from Ravan on deathbed.

Ravana was never a shivbhakt. Neither did Mahadeva bestow any boon onto him.

There is no mention of Makardhwaj, the son of Hanuman born through his sweat that fell into the ocean while coming back from Lanka.

Ravan was never the presiding priest for helping Shri Ram build the bridge.

Ravana was never informed about Shri Ram's birth, neither did he kidnap Kaushalya in a box to defy the prophesy.

Sita was never born to Mandodari and Ravan.

Hanuman wasn't sent by Shri Ram to inform Sita about the victory and get her back. It was Vibhishan who was alloted the task.

Shri Ram never asked Sita to give agnipariksha. Sita being hurt by his reproachment decides to get into fire, and asks Lakshman to set the pyre.

Ravana never abducted Sita for seeking Mukti in the hands of Shri Ram. He was predominantly driven by lust.

Ravana was never pious to have not touched Sita. Instead he was scared for his life due to a curse hurled on him, which meant touching any women without her permission will get his head burst into pieces.

Sati never came to meet Shri Ram in the guise of Sita to test his love for Sita.

There is no mention of Ravana singing Shiv Tandav Stotra in Valmiki Ramayana.

It did not take 18 days for Shri Ram to reach Ayodhya from Lanka.

There is no mention of Shri Ram getting Mandodari married to Vibhishan after the war.

There is no mention of Lava and Kusha stopping Shri Ram's ashwamedh horse or having any fight with Shatrugna or Shri Ram. It is not part of Uttara Kanda by Valmiki.

Urmila did not sleep for 14 years nor Lakshman stayed awake for 14 years.

Shabri did not feed half eaten fruits to Shri Ram.

a cartoon girl is covering her ears with her hands and has a star in her head .

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Posted: 6 months ago
#75

Just want to share an info here....

Raja Ram gv choice to Devi Sita that she shd do Shapath Grahan to reunite with him after Luv Kush gaan & Valmiki ji took oath of his Tapobal,,, Shri Ram said he trusts Sage Valmiki & Sita ma Both,,but once If Sita take oath,,it wld be better for he didn't want LokApwad in future,,,

He was a King,,He cld hv ordered but he gv choice,,,Sita Ma accepted to do Shapathgrahan as it was word of king & subject shd abide by it...She took Shapth,,But not to reunite,,,,but to go to her abode,,,Mother Earth,,bcz she took stand as A Woman for her self respect,,,Thats Bhumipravesh incident frm Gita press Gorakhpur SrimadValmiki Ramayan....🙏

This praja instigated again,,few possessed asuri soch ppl abusing Mata,,King taking action based on them,,,not listening to any of his Loyals in court,,,is shown in series....Not happened in Real,,

Raja Ram never asked for Second Agnipariksha frm Sita,,, firstly First time also Sita Chose Agnipravesham (Agnipariksha word itself is Wrong & Misleading as if ShriRam asked for some test),,,

The point was itself taken in parityag time that again Agnipariksha or any proof test will make it a Norm,,which is Wrong,,But seems writers forgot themselves what they have shown earlier 😕😔....

A good show collapsed bcz of unnecessary Sahastra ravan track.....

Ram Rajya Defeated frm Asuri Soch is what they perpetuated,,They increased & confused ppl more abt Raja Ram in Bhumipravesham incident....

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Posted: 6 months ago
#76

And here Favouritism for Hanuman ji is Next Level,,I am also Hanuman ji devotee,,but just noticed it...

Aaj Hanuman ji Sita ma ke aage ro rahe the,,and Sita ma asking what happened ???This is exactly what written in Sita parityag part for Sita ma Lakshmanji conversation,,,,

tab wo scene nahi dikhaya gaya inse....ab Hanumanji ke liye imaginary scene bana sakte hai....and usme unke emotional dilemma par song bhi de sakte hai....

Agar text mein likha na hota & bahut logo ko already pata na hota to Sita tyag time par bhi van mein mata ko chhodne ka role bhi unhe hi dete writers....

As far as I know,,Aadesh follow karna pada ho,, conscience na keh rahi hai par obedience Loyalty ke wajah se Kathor Aadesh follow karne pade ho,,be it Sita ke be it Ramji ke,,,to woh dilemma & emotional turmoil Lakshman ji ne jhela hai,, isliye mostly aise kathor kaam unko diye gaye hai,,,,

Again Disclaimer I Respect Hanuman's character a Lot,,,

But overall writers hv bias towards him is visible frm much long time now....Though that Mata Putra scene wld be good emotionally,,,kal aayega shayad.....

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Posted: 6 months ago
#77

Yes, that is what is in Uttarkand version.

Also original valmiki Ramayan in the beginning synopsis does not mention uttarkand. Another thing at end of yuddh kand after coronation they give mahatme of Ramayan parayan.

Also when Shri is missing ma sita after she is abducted . He does mention he does not want Ayodhya without his sita.



Edited by Nikvi29 - 6 months ago
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Posted: 6 months ago
#78

Originally posted by: Celinacrescent

There are multiple versions of Ramayana, however, they all differ from the authentic version of Valmiki Ramayana.

Here are incidences that are not mentioned in Valmiki Ramayana:

There was no swayamwar held for Sita and Shri Ram.

Ahilya never turned into a stone. Instead she was cursed to live on air devoid of food and water for thousands years until Shri Ram doesn't visit her.

Shri Ram did not lay his feet on Ahilya. Instead he clasped her leg and thus she got her back the lustre and zest which she had lost after the curse.

There was no lakshman rekha drawn by Lakshman before he left to help Shri Ram.

Shri Ram never knew in advance about Sita's abduction. He didn't ask Agni to create a Maya Sita. It was real Sita who was abducted by Ravana.

Ravan never carried Sita by the land she was standing on. He literally snatched her by hair and lifted her by her thighs while abducting.

There was no mention of Vali acquiring away half power of whom he fought with.

Neither Hanuman nor the vanar sena have any weapon. They rather used mountains, boulders and trees to fight the battle.

There was no RAM written on the stones thrown for building the bridge. They rather used boulders, trees, stones to build the bridge.

Vibhishan never directed Hanuman in Lanka about the whereabouts of Sita.

Lakshman was injured by Ravana's javelin. He was injured twice but the second time it was grave.

There was no mention of Sahasra ravan or Sita taking the form of Maa Kali to kill him.

There was no Ahiravan, the elder brother of Ravan who lived in Patal Loka and for killing whom Hanuman took the form of Panch mukhi Hanuman.

Sushena was not a physician from Lanka, but the father in law of Sugriva, alias Tara’s father.

Hanuman was not shot by Bharata while the former was carrying the Sanjeevani herb for treating Lakshman.

In Valmiki Ramayana, Vishnu promises to take birth as the sons of Dasharatha during the yagna. However, Shri Ram, born in the human form is not aware that he is Vishnu till the end. Moreover, unlike other versions he is not aware of Ravana coming to abduct Sita and more. It is in the end where Brahma reminds Shri Ram to be Vishnu himself and Sita to be Lakshmi.

Ravan had never captured all the 12 planets, nor did he press Shani below his legs.

There was no episode of Ravana’s men trying to lift Angad's feet.

Ravan had never prepared any separate horoscope for Meghnad nor threatened the planets to change their places.

Vibhishan never directed Shri Ram about how to kill Ravana.

There was no amrit in his stomach. Shri Ram hit the arrow presided by Brahma that pierced his heart.

Shri Ram did not send Lakshman to learn from Ravan on deathbed.

Ravana was never a shivbhakt. Neither did Mahadeva bestow any boon onto him.

There is no mention of Makardhwaj, the son of Hanuman born through his sweat that fell into the ocean while coming back from Lanka.

Ravan was never the presiding priest for helping Shri Ram build the bridge.

Ravana was never informed about Shri Ram's birth, neither did he kidnap Kaushalya in a box to defy the prophesy.

Sita was never born to Mandodari and Ravan.

Hanuman wasn't sent by Shri Ram to inform Sita about the victory and get her back. It was Vibhishan who was alloted the task.

Shri Ram never asked Sita to give agnipariksha. Sita being hurt by his reproachment decides to get into fire, and asks Lakshman to set the pyre.

Ravana never abducted Sita for seeking Mukti in the hands of Shri Ram. He was predominantly driven by lust.

Ravana was never pious to have not touched Sita. Instead he was scared for his life due to a curse hurled on him, which meant touching any women without her permission will get his head burst into pieces.

Sati never came to meet Shri Ram in the guise of Sita to test his love for Sita.

There is no mention of Ravana singing Shiv Tandav Stotra in Valmiki Ramayana.

It did not take 18 days for Shri Ram to reach Ayodhya from Lanka.

There is no mention of Shri Ram getting Mandodari married to Vibhishan after the war.

There is no mention of Lava and Kusha stopping Shri Ram's ashwamedh horse or having any fight with Shatrugna or Shri Ram. It is not part of Uttara Kanda by Valmiki.

Urmila did not sleep for 14 years nor Lakshman stayed awake for 14 years.

Shabri did not feed half eaten fruits to Shri Ram.

Wow,,, Excellent Excellent Job done Dost,,You Jotted down each & every point 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

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Posted: 6 months ago
#79

Originally posted by: Nikvi29

Yes, that is what is in Uttarkand version.

Also original valmiki Ramayan in the beginning synopsis does not mention uttarkand. Another thing at end of yuddh kand after coronation they give mahatme of Ramayan parayan.

Also when Shri is missing ma sita after she is abducted . He does mention he does not want Ayodhya without his sita.



Yes true,,,Waise to ShriRam ne aisa bhi bola tha ki What's the use of success in war,, getting Sita Back,,Or even his Own life if u hv departed my brother,,,in Vilap for Lakshman ji in Lakshman Murcha part ...

To tab ke emotional reactions mein bola gaya hai,,though I also doubt UK as so much inconsistencies r there,,,u know once it's mentioned in Shambuk incident that Ramji alongwith Lakshmanji went in Pushpak viman for Nagar Bhraman,,,,Ab Pushpak to Vibhishan ko de diya thana!!!?

To yes inconsistencies bahut hai,,

Both school of thought who support or discard UK hv strong research points with them,,,to UK debatable hai abhi bhi....

Posted: 6 months ago
#80

Originally posted by: Celinacrescent

There are multiple versions of Ramayana, however, they all differ from the authentic version of Valmiki Ramayana.

Here are incidences that are not mentioned in Valmiki Ramayana:

There was no swayamwar held for Sita and Shri Ram.

Ahilya never turned into a stone. Instead she was cursed to live on air devoid of food and water for thousands years until Shri Ram doesn't visit her.

Shri Ram did not lay his feet on Ahilya. Instead he clasped her leg and thus she got her back the lustre and zest which she had lost after the curse.

There was no lakshman rekha drawn by Lakshman before he left to help Shri Ram.

Shri Ram never knew in advance about Sita's abduction. He didn't ask Agni to create a Maya Sita. It was real Sita who was abducted by Ravana.

Ravan never carried Sita by the land she was standing on. He literally snatched her by hair and lifted her by her thighs while abducting.

There was no mention of Vali acquiring away half power of whom he fought with.

Neither Hanuman nor the vanar sena have any weapon. They rather used mountains, boulders and trees to fight the battle.

There was no RAM written on the stones thrown for building the bridge. They rather used boulders, trees, stones to build the bridge.

Vibhishan never directed Hanuman in Lanka about the whereabouts of Sita.

Lakshman was injured by Ravana's javelin. He was injured twice but the second time it was grave.

There was no mention of Sahasra ravan or Sita taking the form of Maa Kali to kill him.

There was no Ahiravan, the elder brother of Ravan who lived in Patal Loka and for killing whom Hanuman took the form of Panch mukhi Hanuman.

Sushena was not a physician from Lanka, but the father in law of Sugriva, alias Tara’s father.

Hanuman was not shot by Bharata while the former was carrying the Sanjeevani herb for treating Lakshman.

In Valmiki Ramayana, Vishnu promises to take birth as the sons of Dasharatha during the yagna. However, Shri Ram, born in the human form is not aware that he is Vishnu till the end. Moreover, unlike other versions he is not aware of Ravana coming to abduct Sita and more. It is in the end where Brahma reminds Shri Ram to be Vishnu himself and Sita to be Lakshmi.

Ravan had never captured all the 12 planets, nor did he press Shani below his legs.

There was no episode of Ravana’s men trying to lift Angad's feet.

Ravan had never prepared any separate horoscope for Meghnad nor threatened the planets to change their places.

Vibhishan never directed Shri Ram about how to kill Ravana.

There was no amrit in his stomach. Shri Ram hit the arrow presided by Brahma that pierced his heart.

Shri Ram did not send Lakshman to learn from Ravan on deathbed.

Ravana was never a shivbhakt. Neither did Mahadeva bestow any boon onto him.

There is no mention of Makardhwaj, the son of Hanuman born through his sweat that fell into the ocean while coming back from Lanka.

Ravan was never the presiding priest for helping Shri Ram build the bridge.

Ravana was never informed about Shri Ram's birth, neither did he kidnap Kaushalya in a box to defy the prophesy.

Sita was never born to Mandodari and Ravan.

Hanuman wasn't sent by Shri Ram to inform Sita about the victory and get her back. It was Vibhishan who was alloted the task.

Shri Ram never asked Sita to give agnipariksha. Sita being hurt by his reproachment decides to get into fire, and asks Lakshman to set the pyre.

Ravana never abducted Sita for seeking Mukti in the hands of Shri Ram. He was predominantly driven by lust.

Ravana was never pious to have not touched Sita. Instead he was scared for his life due to a curse hurled on him, which meant touching any women without her permission will get his head burst into pieces.

Sati never came to meet Shri Ram in the guise of Sita to test his love for Sita.

There is no mention of Ravana singing Shiv Tandav Stotra in Valmiki Ramayana.

It did not take 18 days for Shri Ram to reach Ayodhya from Lanka.

There is no mention of Shri Ram getting Mandodari married to Vibhishan after the war.

There is no mention of Lava and Kusha stopping Shri Ram's ashwamedh horse or having any fight with Shatrugna or Shri Ram. It is not part of Uttara Kanda by Valmiki.

Urmila did not sleep for 14 years nor Lakshman stayed awake for 14 years.

Shabri did not feed half eaten fruits to Shri Ram.

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