Sunn Mere Dil (GEO) #12 - Wahaj Ali, Maya Ali, Hira Mani - Page 36

Originally posted by: hypnotoad

Just because they marketed it as a love story doesn't make it a love story. Isse zyada love story toh action adventure superhero films main hoti hai. Look at this is as coming of age story of an impulsive immature kaan ki kacchi girl and it will maje sense. Will Sadaf grow up and make the right decision is what this is about.

Its basically a thesis on true love...lekin romance nahi hai yaha pei that's the main issue. Romance IMO is there but not a very straightforward romance.

If you look at the story from characters perspective,than I dont think its bad..but if you take the entire story on face value its definitely absurd and illogical.

This kind of stories doesn't work in today's era where everyone is more invested in romance than the journey of the characters .

Out of all the characters,only Bilal has truly loved Sadaf..so much that his love has so much power that it can make Sadaf fall deeper for him even if they are not together. Ammar knew this deep inside,that's why he was always insecured...his extramarital affair and abuse stemmed from his deeper lying insecurities.

Originally posted by: kuhelidebbarma

IMO, Sunn Mere Dil has violated lot of Islamic rules and not very strict about male-female friendships. Right from Bilal being a womanizer to Sadaf wanting to date BA during iddat period...all these things make the characters very greyish..if you want to enjoy and understand SMD's crux,than I think religion thing has to be removed from everyone's mind..and this is not possible ..!!

I was ready, actually I think a lot of us were prepared for this to be controversial. Personally I’m okay with it. I remember having discussions before this was released if this was going to be like a KANK. If Ammar was a totally nice guy and Sadaf was cheating on him then I would have a problem. That’s not what’s happening here. I’m ok with some things being controversial.

All that being said, I don’t know if they are being nonchalant about the iddat period. The mom asking Sadaf is she believes in religion and her covering her head and not meeting Bilal indicated that she was talking about the iddat period. Also her telling Bilal to call Sadaf rather than meeting her in person. I think Sadaf covers her hair at the end for the same reason. Maybe they will try but will be drawn to each other. Personally it won’t bother me but I hope the show doesn’t try to make them out to be the villains and Ammar the victim.

Originally posted by: kuhelidebbarma

IMO, Sunn Mere Dil has violated lot of Islamic rules and not very strict about male-female friendships. Right from Bilal being a womanizer to Sadaf wanting to date BA during iddat period...all these things make the characters very greyish..if you want to enjoy and understand SMD's crux,than I think religion thing has to be removed from everyone's mind..and this is not possible ..!!

they have not shown any islamically wrong thing in positive light in SMD.

important islamic rules can't be removed from ptv shows. if they violate those rules, they are always shown in negative way. pretty sure they are not showing dating in a good light. otherwise, sadaf's mother wouldn't have stopped both of them.

you can see this is the first time any character talked about religion in this show. it signifies what place iddah holds islamically.

Originally posted by: unicornhugs

Yeah I noticed that too. Although Bilal being a womanizer and drinking alcohol has always been shown as wrong. The way male and female friends interact in this isn’t Islamic either. In fact any “dating” that is shown in dramas isn’t technically okay either. You shouldn’t be alone with a non-mehram.

I was ready, actually I think a lot of us were prepared for this to be controversial. Personally I’m okay with it. I remember having discussions before this was released if this was going to be like a KANK. If Ammar was a totally nice guy and Sadaf was cheating on him then I would have a problem. That’s not what’s happening here. I’m ok with some things being controversial.

All that being said, I don’t know if they are being nonchalant about the iddat period. The mom asking Sadaf is she believes in religion and her covering her head and not meeting Bilal indicated that she was talking about the iddat period. Also her telling Bilal to call Sadaf rather than meeting her in person. I think Sadaf covers her hair at the end for the same reason. Maybe they will try but will be drawn to each other. Personally it won’t bother me but I hope the show doesn’t try to make them out to be the villains and Ammar the victim.

@bold: they are gonna end up doing this only. then fans will understand what has KRQ actually done.

Originally posted by: wildflower9

@bold: they are gonna end up doing this only. then fans will understand what has KRQ actually done.

Sadaf is already looking cruel and sadistic in the precap. No need to gloat about having dinner with Bilal to a guy who is no longer part of your life.

Originally posted by: kuhelidebbarma

If KRQ wanted to show their relationship in a bad light..wouldn’t have bilsad started dating when she was married? But that didn't happen..to normalize the relationship between bilal sadaf they have made ammar dania very cringe.

ammar-dania wasn't right anyway. but look how KRQ is emphasizing ammar should be forgiven. only then it will be equal to what sadaf is doing. it signifies sadaf isn't right either.

Originally posted by: 2RsFan

Sadaf is already looking cruel and sadistic in the precap. No need to gloat about having dinner with Bilal to a guy who is no longer part of your life.

she has already told ammar i will make you feel the same pain you have given me.

actually he is still a part of her life till the iddat triangle lasts

Originally posted by: kuhelidebbarma

Its basically a thesis on true love...lekin romance nahi hai yaha pei that's the main issue. Romance IMO is there but not a very straightforward romance.

If you look at the story from characters perspective,than I dont think its bad..but if you take the entire story on face value its definitely absurd and illogical.

This kind of stories doesn't work in today's era where everyone is more invested in romance than the journey of the characters .

Out of all the characters,only Bilal has truly loved Sadaf..so much that his love has so much power that it can make Sadaf fall deeper for him even if they are not together. Ammar knew this deep inside,that's why he was always insecured...his extramarital affair and abuse stemmed from his deeper lying insecurities.

A story about love and a love story are two separate genres.

The script snd characterization were very weak but even worse was the treatment and performances which were tonally so inconsistent with the story in the script.

Alif was a thesis about love. Shehr e Zaat was a thesis about love. Maybe they were not big hits (but neither is SMD) but they got massive critical appreciation and are cult classics. In the past PTV has made many shows about interior lives, psychological insecurities, and emotional trajectories of complex characters. Critics lap these up. But the tone of these shows is so unlike SMD. Those are almost executed as character studies. The mood is contemplative. Performances are natural and authentic. Execution is restrained. The focus is on communicating character emotional states and arcs with utmost integrity and sincerity through direction and performance. In dramas like this, there are no hero entry scenes, no imaginary dances, no ramp walks, no beauty shots, no zabardasti ka romance and eyelocks, no overacting and screeching, no zabardasti ka bgm, no flimsy nighties and cringe intimacies, no expensive shaadi sets and dances. Authenticity is absolutely critical in these type of shows if stories and emotions have to connect.

The team tried to make a Mutton biryani when they only had ingredients for Gobi Manchurian. This shows, it's execution and performances reeks of insincerity and lack of authenticity. That's why nothing hits or connects.

Originally posted by: hypnotoad

A story about love and a love story are two separate genres.

The script snd characterization were very weak but even worse was the treatment and performances which were tonally so inconsistent with the story in the script.

Alif was a thesis about love. Shehr e Zaat was a thesis about love. Maybe they were not big hits (but neither is SMD) but they got massive critical appreciation and are cult classics. In the past PTV has made many shows about interior lives, psychological insecurities, and emotional trajectories of complex characters. Critics lap these up. But the tone of these shows is so unlike SMD. Those are almost executed as character studies. The mood is contemplative. Performances are natural and authentic. Execution is restrained. The focus is on communicating character emotional states and arcs with utmost integrity and sincerity through direction and performance. In dramas like this, there are no hero entry scenes, no imaginary dances, no ramp walks, no beauty shots, no zabardasti ka romance and eyelocks, no overacting and screeching, no zabardasti ka bgm, no flimsy nighties and cringe intimacies, no expensive shaadi sets and dances. Authenticity is absolutely critical in these type of shows if stories and emotions have to connect.

The team tried to make a Mutton biryani when they only had ingredients for Gobi Manchurian. This shows, it's execution and performances reeks of insincerity and lack of authenticity. That's why nothing hits or connects.

I have discussed this earlier hypno..that the flaws and absurdities are so high that the impact of the story gets diluted..they wanted to give it a mass appeal that's why zabardasti ka romanticization is there..these kind of stories can never have mass appeal seriously they should understand that..the execution and treatment had to be so different.

I feel even today's promo was supposed to be high on emotions but the way Sadaf says "so poetic" was so unnecessary

Originally posted by: wildflower9

they have not shown any islamically wrong thing in positive light in SMD.

important islamic rules can't be removed from ptv shows. if they violate those rules, they are always shown in negative way. pretty sure they are not showing dating in a good light. otherwise, sadaf's mother wouldn't have stopped both of them.

you can see this is the first time any character talked about religion in this show. it signifies what place iddah holds islamically.