GHKPM written updates and Episode Discussion Thread # 134 - Page 49

No way Kiaan boy looked traumatized, his manipulative mother was making him act. They were using trauma as a fashionable term. No traumatized person would be brand-consciousHe was only momentarily affected when Arsh threw them out, otherwise he forgot all of that instantly & seemed unaffected.

Exactly!

Thakkars tho finding all of this distasteful & feeling unsettled, annoyed & shocked with these turn of events, they would obviously be but they're merely reduced to be helpless spectators- Papa Thakkar tried to but are unable to control wrong things happenings & couldn't restrict the mother-son surrendering to every whims & fancies, & bringing mother-son duo back to senses . Anyhoo, Kiaan is dead, now.🙃

The biggest problem was Rajat and to some extent Shree themselves. Since those two are the heads of the family, others can't do much despite wanting to. And some actions have to be taken by specific people.

When they were cutting their Anniversary cake, even if Lucky or Riddhi protested, the damage wouldn't be salvaged as Rajat didn't try to ascertain Savi's right there. But what can we do now?

With Kiaan being dead, I'm dreading they're gonna recreate the most horrible act done in YHM that drove away a huge chunk of OG viewers pre and post leap - Raman calling Ishita a banjh and that she didn't deserve to be a mother.

@RED:- No dear, you were not a broken tape-recorder. It was the FACT, that I completely agreeed with.

And, Ganja PH toh hai hi crooked & ROTTEN beyond limits. Their love for CRINGE & INDIGNIFIED stuff knows no bounds. They've been definitely unfair to ISHVI shippers & in fact every couple shippers of this show for one reason or the other. Tortured the audience & actors unfairly. They've only been a disappointment to everybody.

That's why, it's high time it shut its shop, it ain't going to serve a better content ever.

Couldn't agree more.

Negativity ka pitara hai ye PH. SADISTS of another level. Their allergy with happiness & obsession with torturous tracks & pessimism is on another level. That's why, they slacked down all the slice of life drama & light-hearted content of YHM. In their urgency to only follow negative tracks of YHM they forget to give time & space to develop a good story for lead couple. They cut down the entire story progression of couple & prepared a half-baked story, It was rushed & a khichdi.. Hence, I've made sure to not follow any of the shows this crap PH ever again, even by mistake.🥵. SADISM of this PH is mind-boggling & definitely out of the world, breaking all record

I second your opinion.

Originally posted by: Lennie

I still to this day thinking what does Savi see in Rajat to make her fall for him? 🤷‍♀️😂

The man has made so many mistakes and nuisance with drinking each week. No respect towards her at times etc. And then the biggie - domestic violence and forcing himself on her (attempted sexual harrasment) etc. Crossed few lines here!!!

His sorry is genuine but keeps doing same thing so whats the point of sorry... even did to Sai so many times. Savi as usual forgives him.

I was getting fed of other characters saying oh Rajat is a great person or heera etc. The amount of crap mistakes he has done and drunkard -ness. I wouldn't call him that great or heera. Let's also not forget his constant ddp is a headache.

As a parents...he's not even good. Neither even been there much. He hardly parents any of his kids and he is going to get another one.

As someone said he does few good things but his other bad things outweighs it. Or nullifies it.

For me I am taking away Savi Chavan - been here since gen 2 and till end. She will be remembered and missed.

True.

As much as I wish I could contradict your statements, unfortunately I can't.

I do get why Savi fell for him - like I said in an earlier discussion, love comes in different forms and sometimes you find love in a person who is mature, caring and respectful towards your parents.

At the beginning Rajat was all those things and that's why despite skipping a lot of tracks from YHM, I understood why Savi started liking him.

But it's the second phase that makes it harder for us to ship them. He almost sexually assaulted Savi and even now, when he's genuinely trying to repent, his inability to deal with his past outweighs his efforts most of the times.

And yes, Sai is such a good kid because firstly she was raised by her grand parents and then Savi came to her life. Rajat didn't instill any proper value in either of his kids.

in the end, it's all about Savi Chavan - a resilient girl who lost her ways, and still found a girl whom she truly treated as her own. IAS or not, a designation isn't the only certificate for proving her caliber. She was and will always be her parents' kid - brave, strong, and selfless...

Originally posted by: Nush_Rat

With Kiaan being dead, I'm dreading they're gonna recreate the most horrible act done in YHM that drove away a huge chunk of OG viewers pre and post leap - Raman calling Ishita a banjh and that she didn't deserve to be a mother.

What else can be worse then seeing a someone doing domestic violence and attempting sexual assault (forcing her) despite all this some still into the pairing and however Rajat is.

Alcohol being the answer even yesterday drinking again. After last time I would of thought he would stop the bad habit due to what he did but no!

Even if Rajat calls her that - he will yet again hurt her self respect (how many times has it been now) and sadly others will still be into them or feeling Poor Rajat (cos he said another sorry and guilt mode yet again), and wanting them together.

I hate to see Savi always forgiving when he has done the worst things a person (husband) can do. Hurting her self respect or showing no faith or respect etc.

As for Kiaan - a brat. But he has been made into one. Both parents have inflicted that on him. Yet again not one parent has put him first in a sense. Rajat has him in the house - yet still see no parenting happening or taking an actual interest in the boy. He had a therapy session and Rajat I get it chose Savi but then your like he is your kid.... but then again he has done similar to Sai in not being there over years or parenting but she was with the family all the time.

Honestly if someone had backstory as Kiaan - what his parents & family have done, lack of much love or family feels? He would grow up resenting them. Funnily i see Kiaan and Rajat are similar. Anger, attitude problem, stubborn and talks nonsense.

The fire circle scene they had with Savi doing exam was OTT as I was thinking why would do a fire scenerio (that is trauma too) knowing full well Savi lost both sets of family - her parents and grandparents/brother in blasts which is fire!!!

Originally posted by: Nush_Rat

in the end, it's all about Savi Chavan - a resilient girl who lost her ways, and still found a girl whom she truly treated as her own. IAS or not, a designation isn't the only certificate for proving her caliber. She was and will always be her parents' kid - brave, strong, and selfless...

This is one of the things I will be taking away from this show who and what Savi Chavan was. The character and her heart. Bhavika Sharma's performance and embodied her so well.

Originally posted by: Lennie

What else can be worse then seeing a someone doing domestic violence and attempting sexual assault (forcing her) despite all this some still into the pairing and however Rajat is.

Alcohol being the answer even yesterday drinking again. After last time I would of thought he would stop the bad habit due to what he did but no!

Even if Rajat calls her that - he will yet again hurt her self respect (how many times has it been now) and sadly others will still be into them or feeling Poor Rajat (cos he said another sorry and guilt mode yet again), and wanting them together.

I hate to see Savi always forgiving when he has done the worst things a person (husband) can do. Hurting her self respect or showing no faith or respect etc.

As for Kiaan - a brat. But he has been made into one. Both parents have inflicted that on him. Yet again not one parent has put him first in a sense. Rajat has him in the house - yet still see no parenting happening or taking an actual interest in the boy. He had a therapy session and Rajat I get it chose Savi but then your like he is your kid.... but then again he has done similar to Sai in not being there over years or parenting but she was with the family all the time.

Honestly if someone had backstory as Kiaan - what his parents & family have done, lack of much love or family feels? He would grow up resenting them. Funnily i see Kiaan and Rajat are similar. Anger, attitude problem, stubborn and talks nonsense.

The fire circle scene they had with Savi doing exam was OTT as I was thinking why would do a fire scenerio (that is trauma too) knowing full well Savi lost both sets of family - her parents and grandparents/brother in blasts which is fire!!!

This is actually a problem.

Now I'll be very honest here, while I was really annoyed with the focus on Rajat instead of Savi, having read and seen CUSTODY and YHM respectively, I understand where Rajat was coming from and even though his trauma isn't as severe as Savi's, it's enough to ruin someone or change someone.

So when they toned him down a little and added a few things, I genuinely started liking SaRaj.

My problem began since the assault event. It doesn't matter whether Savi told Bhavi ILU or not, no one can't and shouldn't use that as an excuse to justify their actions. With that one incident, Rajat himself or I would say makers, destroyed everything they built until then.

After that, I wanted Savi to get out or end up with Bhavi or whatever.

Then I thought given the time there's ample time Rajat could redeem himself but even here the makers are hell bent on focusing on the negative aspects.

Bhavika and Hitesh are good actors. Credit where its due, despite the unnecessary bashing from a portion of audience they were still able to generate a fanbase and improved their TRP which is next to impossible after destroying an already established ship (IshVi).

So yeah, I understand the hype around HitVika. But like you said, audience should have protested so makers were forced to either redeem Rajat or break them off because logically speaking, Savi shouldn't end up with him so easily after that horrible incident.

And now again, they just killed off Kiaan randomly, with God knows what idea. So we'll have to see how much lower can they stoop in terms of negativity.

As for Kiaan, yes, both of his parents are responsible for his nature, and Rajat even more because he had the chance to be strict in a lot of situations but he simply handed Kiaan everything on a golden platter, further fueling his attitude. So yeah, I agree.

Now coming to the fire incident, it was absolutely rubbish and there lies my biggest problem. Bhavi pointed out Rajat doesn't know anything about Savi and he made it a mission to make her an IAS officer to assuage his guilt. But as usual he's missing the whole point. He still doesn't know how SaiRat were dead. He still doesn't understand Savi loved Ishan dearly that she remained single for 7 years. If not for Sai, Savi would never think about getting married to him either. He just doesn't want to delve in. He wants ready-made solutions.

With Sai, he got lucky because Savi was there every step of the way, taking the lead in making the child happy and confident. But when it comes to Savi, whether it's Rajendra or Aman or Shantanu - someone has to push him. And that's where the makers have missed their opportunity because given a proper script, Hitesh could make it work and they would get better TRP, hopefully.

Originally posted by: Nush_Rat

This is actually a problem.

Now I'll be very honest here, while I was really annoyed with the focus on Rajat instead of Savi, having read and seen CUSTODY and YHM respectively, I understand where Rajat was coming from and even though his trauma isn't as severe as Savi's, it's enough to ruin someone or change someone.

So when they toned him down a little and added a few things, I genuinely started liking SaRaj.

My problem began since the assault event. It doesn't matter whether Savi told Bhavi ILU or not, no one can't and shouldn't use that as an excuse to justify their actions. With that one incident, Rajat himself or I would say makers, destroyed everything they built until then.

After that, I wanted Savi to get out or end up with Bhavi or whatever.

Then I thought given the time there's ample time Rajat could redeem himself but even here the makers are hell bent on focusing on the negative aspects.

Bhavika and Hitesh are good actors. Credit where its due, despite the unnecessary bashing from a portion of audience they were still able to generate a fanbase and improved their TRP which is next to impossible after destroying an already established ship (IshVi).

So yeah, I understand the hype around HitVika. But like you said, audience should have protested so makers were forced to either redeem Rajat or break them off because logically speaking, Savi shouldn't end up with him so easily after that horrible incident.

And now again, they just killed off Kiaan randomly, with God knows what idea. So we'll have to see how much lower can they stoop in terms of negativity.

As for Kiaan, yes, both of his parents are responsible for his nature, and Rajat even more because he had the chance to be strict in a lot of situations but he simply handed Kiaan everything on a golden platter, further fueling his attitude. So yeah, I agree.

Now coming to the fire incident, it was absolutely rubbish and there lies my biggest problem. Bhavi pointed out Rajat doesn't know anything about Savi and he made it a mission to make her an IAS officer to assuage his guilt. But as usual he's missing the whole point. He still doesn't know how SaiRat were dead. He still doesn't understand Savi loved Ishan dearly that she remained single for 7 years. If not for Sai, Savi would never think about getting married to him either. He just doesn't want to delve in. He wants ready-made solutions.

With Sai, he got lucky because Savi was there every step of the way, taking the lead in making the child happy and confident. But when it comes to Savi, whether it's Rajendra or Aman or Shantanu - someone has to push him. And that's where the makers have missed their opportunity because given a proper script, Hitesh could make it work and they would get better TRP, hopefully.

Agree. Whatever was said between Savi and Bhavi or how many hugs or meetings and yes as friends. No one should do what Rajat did in the name of that. Justify it too!!

I will be honest. Any like I had for Rajat was going down in each track. His drinking behaviour every time and making hungama, and in that its embarrassment for Savi. His attitude and the way he talks. His lacks of respect for Savi at times. Could not even give blood for his child (to even see he is a match or not). His disregard of being a teacher because she made him lose a deal. Others thing I probably can say but you get the gist of it. On top of all that the constant Ddp of Rajat in every track over Savi.

And then the domestic violence behaviour and the sexual attempt on her was crossing a lines way too many. And no its not because Raman did this so Rajat did too. No a person (a husband) did this here. Let's see it and what was in the story and call it out. Not just excuse because you love your jodi etc.

If Lucky or Arsh can still called out for their criminality behaviour and molestion the what do you think Rajat did. The gall he has to give other lecture on respecting women. He treated Savi poorly quite a few times and just recently.

Like you said logically speaking Savi should not be with him after the horrific situation and the other things that were before too.

You've already said it rightly Rajat looks for ready made solutions and to do it because he wants to less his guilt. He never took an interest in Savi or her life and her likes/dislikes to think what is in her past.

As for Kiaan. Rajat lack of parenting or being there even for Sai. I blame him for how he is as a father and taking not much interest in them. Doing whatever rather then actual be there and be a father. You know in a way Rajat is lucky that Sai always somewhat makes up for his mistakes or thought that she has is heartbreaking too. Still she thinks the world of him. As he is lucky to have Savi too in that department as a whole even his parents who been there.

As for script good or not. All tv shows/serials are similar. So in a way you cannot say much. If they had better or not. ITV is ITV sadly. Also let's not total copy paste. Keep the FL journey as protagonist and centre because in this current leap it was not quite there sadly. ML taking over each way imo

I had dislikes with Ishvi and Ishaan too. We all know how Ishaan was along with his toxic family. Not strong and spineless as some say. I am sure most of remember the slap - which she never deserved in any way. I do and it one of those moments you can't forget and makes you angry exactly the way Rajat behaviour and crossing the lines has done. To let that go I have to think what matters is Savi and her thoughts etc.

You know it does/will not surprise me if Ishaan/Ishvi fans say - Ishaan might of been this or that but what he never did was be domestic violent and further more did not force himself on her!!

Originally posted by: Nush_Rat

True.

As much as I wish I could contradict your statements, unfortunately I can't.

I do get why Savi fell for him - like I said in an earlier discussion, love comes in different forms and sometimes you find love in a person who is mature, caring and respectful towards your parents.

At the beginning Rajat was all those things and that's why despite skipping a lot of tracks from YHM, I understood why Savi started liking him.

But it's the second phase that makes it harder for us to ship them. He almost sexually assaulted Savi and even now, when he's genuinely trying to repent, his inability to deal with his past outweighs his efforts most of the times.

And yes, Sai is such a good kid because firstly she was raised by her grand parents and then Savi came to her life. Rajat didn't instill any proper value in either of his kids.

in the end, it's all about Savi Chavan - a resilient girl who lost her ways, and still found a girl whom she truly treated as her own. IAS or not, a designation isn't the only certificate for proving her caliber. She was and will always be her parents' kid - brave, strong, and selfless...

So the Kian really died..I didn't watch the episode completely even the " consummation " scene looked so damn fake and boring 😴

Originally posted by: Rosh4rose

So the Kian really died..I didn't watch the episode completely even the " consummation " scene looked so damn fake and boring 😴

I guess so. Haven't watched today's episode so can't really tell.

Originally posted by: Nush_Rat

Of course this needs to stop. The question is - will they?

Willingly they would never. Only channel can do the honour now -giving a full stop to this crap by pulling the plug on the show