Sunn Mere Dil (GEO) #10 - Wahaj Ali, Maya Ali, Hira Mani - Page 93

Originally posted by: unicornhugs

That’s 100% not true. Smart, independent, educated women across all cultures sometimes have trouble leaving abusive marriages. In fact there have been stories of women killed in abusive relationships even when they had supportive families. This isn’t just desi women either. It usually isn’t about love but being gaslit and manipulated by the other person. Culture here may play a part where women are expected to do everything possible to save a marriage. Sadaf should leave but some women do struggle with the decision. It’s unfortunate but it happens.

Agreed about the lead thing…especially the last 7-8 episodes. There’s barely been any Wahaj.

There are shows that are written to depict the reality of abuse, rape, bad advice by mothers, victims staying with abusers, etc. But their treatment and execution makes it clear whether these elements are going to be seriously and sensitively examined or are there for sensationalization purposes. Because here the writer is KRQ, everyone just assumes the objective is to sensationalize. Like when Ammar hits Sadaf, the scene cuts to Bilal waking up in worry. The emphasis became less about how a woman was abused and her reaction and more about wah kya romance or soulmate connection hai ke hero ko uske dard ka ehsaas hogaya. The execution is honestly so ott at times that it takes away from the seriousness of the issue. Usama wallowing in his insecurities is shot in such a way that it becomes about dania in flimsy nightgowns plying him excessively with alcohol. A third aspect is consistency with cktr. Ammar I feel is consistent with what he was before. He was always rondu, insecure and even accused Sadaf of selling herself for 8 crore in e8. But I have also said myself here that Sadaf and her mother are not entirely acting in keeping with the cktrs we were shown before.

Originally posted by: hypnotoad

There are shows that are written to depict the reality of abuse, rape, bad advice by mothers, victims staying with abusers, etc. But their treatment and execution makes it clear whether these elements are going to be seriously and sensitively examined or are there for sensationalization purposes. Because here the writer is KRQ, everyone just assumes the objective is to sensationalize. Like when Ammar hits Sadaf, the scene cuts to Bilal waking up in worry. The emphasis became less about how a woman was abused and her reaction and more about wah kya romance or connection hai ke hero ko uske dard ka ehsaas hogaya. The execution is honestly so ott at times that it takes away from the reality of things. Usama wallowing in his insecurities is shot in such a way that it becomes about dania in flimsy nightgowns plying him excessively with alcohol.

Bilal woke up when she was hit was to show soulmate connection..that is OTT for Pakistani audience..but they have also showed Sadaf breaking down after the slap and next moment taking a stand for herself where she temporarily wanted to separate from ammar...I think that's enough to show how their relationship is crumbling down.

The caption on the pic makes me angry ammar is the real sardard

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Originally posted by: Joannna

Ofcourse there are cases of abuse even now but the difference is that decades ago maybe women would take it quietly due to lack of support. What is shocking is Here today it is shown that Sadaf is taking all the cheating, abuse and name calling and still staying with her husband. Sadaf has a job, her brother’s health is taken care of, there is no reason for her to stick by. This is what is weird in 2025.

What is a main lead? The person with the highest screen time with the heroine? Then Amar is the main lead along with Sadaf. Wahaj has a special appearance kind of screen time, I wonder why they even put him on the poster when he is hardly present. Main track is Amar - Sadaf and then Amar - Dania.

Sadaf married whom she wanted even though her mom suggested against it and now is taking her moms advice?

bilal abdullah is the lead only because he is a white character. ammar is a grey character but story is more ammar centred.

Originally posted by: wildflower9

bilal abdullah is the lead only because he is a white character. ammar is a grey character but story is more ammar centred.

IMO it was Bilal centred until the marraige of sadaf was done. Even in marriage the importance was more on breaking down of Bilal not on Bilal Ammar. But after the marriage it has shifted the focus in such a way that viewers can't digest as viewers expect for the track of main lead. I feel it will increase now as the story progress and Ammar will be sidelined and as its geo, still there can be lot of episodes left.

Originally posted by: itsme_1

IMO it was Bilal centred until the marraige of sadaf was done. Even in marriage the importance was more on breaking down of Bilal not on Bilal Ammar. But after the marriage it has shifted the focus in such a way that viewers can't digest as viewers expect for the track of main lead. I feel it will increase now as the story progress and Ammar will be sidelined and as its geo, still there can be lot of episodes left.

even before marriage, ammar was given a lot of screenspace. bilal is the lead that's why his emotions are focused more, through empty scenes (without any dialogue).

but the story will seem ammar centred if someone narrates it to another person.

Originally posted by: MiVida_Messi

I’m sorry but I don’t think Wahaj is performing well here, the way most people are saying everyone is acting bad and he’s carrying the show, I feel he’s equally bad. He himself chose the show, knowing how limited his scope is, and it looks like he didn’t care about character arc, just did the show because he thought it’ll be another Tere bin.

He has some very strong scenes (like in e19). I have also liked parts where he gets angry, aloof, agitated or has outburst but those parts are too fleeting. I wish Bilal was given more to do in the show than be this sad boy and Sadaf's devotional selfless one-sided lover, so we could see more range in expressions and actions.

But there are places where I have also said before he dropped the ball.

My one big issue I have said many times is that Wahaj's focus is more on enacting the emotions in a given scenes, rather than immersing himself in that cktr and acting accordingly to character and its graph at a given point. Like when he is alcoholic, he is ott alcoholic, and acts like an addict. But when he gave up alcohol, his performance wasn't that of an addict gone dry. Even if the script did not explore this track, his body language in subsequent scenes should have reflected how someone going through withdrawal will act. Like he could have been seen accidentally reaching for a glass, or his hands trembling, or his demeanor showing some agitation or anxiety. But he was acting too normal.

There are places where I just did not agree with the creative choice being made. FIirst was his depiction of BA's alcoholism I have written about here too was too ott. It would have been more impactful if taken down a notch. Second was BA's sharmeelapan and giggling in those two episodes when he was going to Sadaf's for dinner. I hated ir and wrote about here as well. There are a few scenes where he twists and contorts his mouth in very weird ways and I don't get it.

A lot of it is the director's fault. There are so many random filler scens of BA where he is sulking, brooding and thinking without any context. It's not connected to scene before or scene after. This gets repetitive and monotonous after a while. If there were just 2-3 scenes like that, it would have adequately communicated to us that BA is a lonely, sad guy and would be very impactful. When you get 20-30 scenes like that, it dilutes the actor performance because viewers would have gotten tired of seeing same 3-4 expressions repeated without any context. Also, by stretching some scenes, the director ruins the performance. If the camera shows Bilal being awe struck by Sadaf when she enters her office and then quickly looking away, it would be very impactful. But when camera zooms on Bilal's face giving same wide eyed stare for30 seconds at a girl who is standing in front of him in his office, it becomes creepy.

Originally posted by: hypnotoad

He has some very strong scenes (like in e19). I have also liked parts where he gets angry, aloof, agitated or has outburst but those parts are too fleeting. I wish Bilal was given more to do in the show than be this sad boy and Sadaf's devotional selfless one-sided lover, so we could see more range in expressions and actions.

But there are places where I have also said before he dropped the ball.

My one big issue I have said many times is that Wahaj's focus is more on enacting the emotions in a given scenes, rather than immersing himself in that cktr and acting accordingly to character and its graph at a given point. Like when he is alcoholic, he is ott alcoholic, and acts like an addict. But when he gave up alcohol, his performance wasn't that of an addict gone dry. Even if the script did not explore this track, his body language in subsequent scenes should have reflected how someone going through withdrawal will act. Like he could have been seen accidentally reaching for a glass, or his hands trembling, or his demeanor showing some agitation or anxiety. But he was acting too normal.

There are places where I just did not agree with the creative choice being made. FIirst was his depiction of BA's alcoholism I have written about here too was too ott. It would have been more impactful if taken down a notch. Second was BA's sharmeelapan and giggling in those two episodes when he was going to Sadaf's for dinner. I hated ir and wrote about here as well. There are a few scenes where he twists and contorts his mouth in very weird ways and I don't get it.

A lot of it is the director's fault. There are so many random filler scens of BA where he is sulking, brooding and thinking without any context. It's not connected to scene before or scene after. This gets repetitive and monotonous after a while. If there were just 2-3 scenes like that, it would have adequately communicated to us that BA is a lonely, sad guy and would be very impactful. When you get 20-30 scenes like that, it dilutes the actor performance because viewers would have gotten tired of seeing same 3-4 expressions repeated without any context. Also, by stretching some scenes, the director ruins the performance. If the camera shows Bilal being awe struck by Sadaf when she enters her office and then quickly looking away, it would be very impactful. But when camera zooms on Bilal's face giving same wide eyed stare for30 seconds at a girl who is standing in front of him in his office, it becomes creepy.

Unfortunately SMD is a very loosely knit story and on the top of it,the dragging and terribly slow pace has ruined it all..if this story came in the form of telefilm,it would have been much better.

Wahaj's character still has to unraveled more but not in the present track which is revolving around sadaf...that's why his scenes are mostly fillerHe is just there for the sake of views since there is no significant importance of him in this track

Originally posted by: wildflower9

bilal abdullah is the lead only because he is a white character. ammar is a grey character but story is more ammar centred.

this is an ensemble led by maya. it is sadaf's story and her journey we are seeing. ammar and bilal are literally options a and b sadaf chooses between and are equal opportunity cktrs.

bilal has no friends, no family. his career as a hotelier and industry titan gets no airtime. his backstory and trauma is not explored at all and only used as a plot device to further sadaf's arc. any conversation bilal has with humsha is about sadaf. he has no tracks of his own independent of sadaf. that is not how central protagonists are written.

haseeb has padded wahaj's screentime by adding all those filler scenes of BA sulking, soch-ing, brooding - kabhi khambe se latakte huey, while fondling glasses and lamps, leaning against cars, walls and windows, sitting in bed, lying in various sofas, sitting by the pool, in the garden, on the table, on a chair. paiano bajate huey. stumbling and strolling down the stairs and hallways. then we have the hero entry and power walks.

forget the marketing. take out the filler scenes and beauty shotsm and think bilal is played by mikaal. nothing else is changed in the writing and filming. no one will even question for a second that bilal is not the central protagonist. if the writing doesn't have you as the central protagonist, no amount of filler scenes and hero entries and fake marketing will make you the central cktr.

Wahaj is the central protagonist same way Sunny Deol was central protagonist in Darr

Wahaj is the central protagonist same way Shahid was central protagonist in Padmavat

Wahaj is the central protagonist same way Faris Shafi was central protagonist in Mann Jali

Being a good guy who gets the girl is not what is meant by central protagonist from a narrative perspective

Originally posted by: hypnotoad

He has some very strong scenes (like in e19). I have also liked parts where he gets angry, aloof, agitated or has outburst but those parts are too fleeting. I wish Bilal was given more to do in the show than be this sad boy and Sadaf's devotional selfless one-sided lover, so we could see more range in expressions and actions

A lot of it is the director's fault. There are so many random filler scens of BA where he is sulking, brooding and thinking without any context. It's not connected to scene before or scene after. This gets repetitive and monotonous after a while. If there were just 2-3 scenes like that, it would have adequately communicated to us that BA is a lonely, sad guy and would be very impactful. When you get 20-30 scenes like that, it dilutes the actor performance because viewers would have gotten tired of seeing same 3-4 expressions repeated without any context. Also, by stretching some scenes, the director ruins the performance. If the camera shows Bilal being awe struck by Sadaf when she enters her office and then quickly looking away, it would be very impactful. But when camera zooms on Bilal's face giving same wide eyed stare for30 seconds at a girl who is standing in front of him in his office, it becomes creepy.

The point is drama itself is directed and shot like an OTT overall and not like real one. Performance is great accordingly. as you said the filler scenes with no dialogues and slow motion things looses the overall impact.