Jhanak Written Update And Episode Discussion thread No 88 - Page 104

Taking didi out of montage 😃

https://x.com/virashreep/status/1865413053501587878?s=46

So somethings hasn’t changed … like IF glitching 🥲

Originally posted by: vira76

Taking didi out of montage 😃

https://x.com/virashreep/status/1865413053501587878?s=46

Am proud of my daughter ...👌👌👏👏

Originally posted by: sanfan

when the grown ups will resume writing and directing the serial I will resume watching

The grown ups have long since left the building, Rekha ji 😂. Iske aage oh so achhi Arshi didi ka pregnancy track aane wala hai which she will claim is a sign from God that Ani will always belong to her 🤷‍♀️😂. You really think it will be grown ups writing that? 😂

Let’s apply the rule of opposites, which is the inviolable law in Leena’s storytelling. So in the precap, Ani being mute likely means Leena won’t let him go without dialogues that will undo his clarity about seeking mukti from Arshi irrespective of Jhanak's stance. And Jhanak rejecting Aditya initially is a set up for eventual acceptance of his proposal to pursue her Mumbai dream and escape Ani. Then, a wedding will be arranged, but staying true to the rule of opposites, the wedding will not happen, her Mumbai dream crumbles, and she finds herself back in Ani’s world. How’s that for injecting some logic into Leena’s narrative

Originally posted by: AreYaar

The grown ups have long since left the building, Rekha ji 😂. Iske aage oh so achhi Arshi didi ka pregnancy track aane wala hai which she will claim is a sign from God that Ani will always belong to her 🤷‍♀️😂. You really think it will be grown ups writing that? 😂

Yes that’s true

Grownups have indeed left…

About the baby track… obviously wasn’t needed but having already shown the vileness..let them show how far can they go..

if this doesn’t salvage nothing will…

Originally posted by: Alter_Eg0

Let’s apply the rule of opposites, which is the inviolable law in Leena’s storytelling. So in the precap, Ani being mute likely means Leena won’t let him go without dialogues that will undo his clarity about seeking mukti from Arshi irrespective of Jhanak's stance. And Jhanak rejecting Aditya initially is a set up for eventual acceptance of his proposal to pursue her Mumbai dream and escape Ani. Then, a wedding will be arranged, but staying true to the rule of opposites, the wedding will not happen, her Mumbai dream crumbles, and she finds herself back in Ani’s world. How’s that for injecting some logic into Leena’s narrative

But the BTS already showed Jhanak saying to evil Bose gang that she knows they are framing her and she also told AK she didn’t do anything. So I don’t see signs of her suddenly flipping to agreeing to marry AK.

This plan of Bips has a little too much real time gloating happening for it to succeed or get to the point of a wedding. This is why sudden proposal in a party to show quick rejection of this proposal and move on to some other argument between Runak.

Ani is notably standing at a distance from Arshi in the precap also so I don’t see any sign there either of him suddenly not wanting mukti from Arshi. Right now he just seems to be in overall aloof mode.

Originally posted by: PPak

Bold - I knew you would. We were both waiting for clarity of feelings from Runak. Issue is Leena based on track record can completely wipe out this conversation tomorrow.

Hey I partially agree with what you are saying abt Jhanak's stand. Its not wholely sacrificial nor is it mainly societal. I feel her stance on not coming between Ani and didi is complex and stems from a multitude of things - resentment or over sensitivity wrt Ani's initial hesitation in marrying her and her perception of his insistence in removing signs of their marriage as giving away her right to Arshi and wanting to hold Ani accountable for his choices - making both of them miserable as a fitting punishment for his rejection of their marriage and her wrong in falling for her sister's fiance, Urvasi upbringing, the constant humiliation she has had to endure as a daughter of a relationship not accepted by society, her acknowledgement of Ani's culpability in running to Arshi whenever he faced rejection from her, and her consideration of Arshi as her cousin and now sister.

Ani who we love and as we understand the characterization per first 200 episodes is not fickle. But Ani as shown in the show is 100% fickle.

He calls Arshi achi ladki and then says he is scared of her He says people can fall in love multiple times and wants to nibahofy relationship with Arshi for kushaal zindagi and then asks Arshi to leave of she is not happy. Post aag episode, it was Ani who kept insisting to Arshi she was his wife and he did not need to complete their marriage to accept her. Now he is telling Jhanak, while Arshi refers to herself as his wife he does not accept it. When J came to tell him she was pregnant he accused J of trying to break up his wonderful married life with Arshi and repeatedly begged Arshi to uphold their marriage while asking J to not spoil his life marriage family and reputation.

I love Krushal as Ani - but Ani has been butchered characterwise. We can all choose to remember Ani from first 200 episodes for Krushal's brilliant acting, but Ani as shown in the show is extremely fickle, untrusting of J and has been unfair towards Arshi.

Arshi is a pathetic clingy stupid manipulative entitled woman; but that does not excuse Ani's running to her for comfort whenever he face issues with J. Problems stemming from a lack of awareness of self and proper introspection of oneself should have consequences and Ani is dealing with them. Now that he has started to break out of the Arshi deception and accepting the truth, hopefully his character will improve. Without trust there is no love. Till Runak trust eo they honestly cannot claim to love the other to the extent they claim. RN in the show Ani and J make tall claims of loving eo but I see very less manifestion of that love.

He does not trust her, she wants to ignore his pain and focus only on her sacrifice, J alternatingly sympathizes and taunts Ani and Arshi, Ani is ok with forcing his love to endure a toxic mentally crippling BH home while calling Arshi wife, to me none of these seems like true love. They are telling me so I have to believe it unseen.

Went longer than expected Rekha!! :)

If Leena can keep Runak conversation as base and valid for the upcoming episodes, I will be very happy to see what she will come up with next. Runak has to unite for Arshi preggy drama - so lets see. As I;ve said before J will nto be bothered abt the pregnancy - other than expecting Ani to take ownership. After she pushed him to be with Arshi she will be the biggest hypocrite if she has a problem with it.

Hi Priya,

One thing is constant… that line you mentioned that Leena can tomorrow wipe out any conversation that we have here 😂😂😂😂 & another thing we both are at always at different tangents 🙈😂😂😂

This post I am going to focus on Jhanak largely but like I said I will write a response to your earlier post and this regarding Ani not because we have divergence in how we view Ani as how Leena interprets him and what he comes across as but just becos I love giving interpretations to scenes/ characters… although I am low on motivation now.

Bold - I view resentment in her actions but certainly not stemming from his initial hesitation… that’s wholly absurd… Are you saying Jhanak was holding this against Ani… … The resentment from the aftermath of the decision is a wholly different thing and there are nuances to it but If Jhanak’s resentment was from that initial refusal.. wouldn’t that mean she has a greater victimhood complex than say Arshi in this tale? Jhanak asked Ani to take that action in this tale simply becos it would have looked stupid if Ani suggested it. The suggestion had to come from her as Ani needed to be assured that it was a temporary arrangement… who else could have suggested it? Rahul perhaps but Ani would have only accepted if Jhanak has assented to it so my point is let’s move on to what follows… also.. if you see the initial Jhanak… she had a certain fierce quality ( low ambition or not is a separate point) about her that looked at fighting not giving up… Today a lot of the fierceness is gone cos circumstances have gone against her constantly..

Also it is timely to point out that all characterisations in stories work on expediency… Very rarely in this medium you will have a tale of clear conviction and a linear plot moving in straight line… it’s all about how much of the expediency is explained away in this tale with some basis.
I explained above one expediency.. Forced wedding itself is a trope to get two people under one roof… which expediency works for the viewer depends on how it is narrated.

Tales aren’t a slice of life… they aim for some relatability but very little else.. cos most love tales will collapse if we keep it too real. No Arshi will behave like this in real life, No Ani and No Jhanak…will either. Arshi and Ani would have parted long long ago whether on good or bad terms… Or if Ani was really in love with Arshi… he would have kept J at arm’s distance…

For me about stories and characterisations… it is about understanding the pov of the writer or their sensibility. When I watched this tale, I thought Leena is looking to say Love is Love and she is putting the lovers in a prison of their own making…and making this about how they get out of it…But now I don’t know … but the way I read it.. Jhanak making a big thing about morality needs to stack it up with how she feels when Ani actually goes away ( or is forced to go) from her life but not on her terms. Here she perceives herself perched at a very high moral ground secure in the knowledge that their love is enough to wade through life. But what happens when that status quo changes… will she be able to hold on to that high ground of “ I don’t want to come between you and my sister” ? Situations test our positions held on morality.. the lens through which we see it is always an evolving one and while some core aspects remain rigid and uncompromised… others change due to dynamics around it… like if you are playing fair but say the opponent isn’t etc

In this tale at this point, Jhanak has perched herself atop a hill based on her experiences and her perception of what life has dealt her, she is not ready to face any more What Ani does or doesn’t isn’t the thing that will bring her a notch below. It is what she does with new knowledge that is to be seen ( Leena stretching that like a chewing gum is a bore but I am assuming if the baby track doesn’t do it nothing will)

Ok now coming to the resentments you have mentioned.. you observations are hopefully not a static one… In our own relationships… we evolve… we have some understanding and then we gain more… then something happens that doesn’t tally with our new understanding we recalibrate… we learn more about people we profess to love… so does our understanding and acceptance. Jhanak has evolved through that process… as also Ani

There are resentments she holds in her heart no doubt… but hasn’t she also gained understanding about her relationship with Sirjee over the year? To reach the stage of “ I love you and I know you love me too immensely” … She asked Ani “ ISNT THAT ENOUGH FOR US” ? She asked Ani the question but it is Jhanak who will have to answer it.

Originally posted by: PPak

Bold - I knew you would. We were both waiting for clarity of feelings from Runak. Issue is Leena based on track record can completely wipe out this conversation tomorrow.

Hey I partially agree with what you are saying abt Jhanak's stand. Its not wholely sacrificial nor is it mainly societal. I feel her stance on not coming between Ani and didi is complex and stems from a multitude of things - resentment or over sensitivity wrt Ani's initial hesitation in marrying her and her perception of his insistence in removing signs of their marriage as giving away her right to Arshi and wanting to hold Ani accountable for his choices - making both of them miserable as a fitting punishment for his rejection of their marriage and her wrong in falling for her sister's fiance, Urvasi upbringing, the constant humiliation she has had to endure as a daughter of a relationship not accepted by society, her acknowledgement of Ani's culpability in running to Arshi whenever he faced rejection from her, and her consideration of Arshi as her cousin and now sister.

Ani who we love and as we understand the characterization per first 200 episodes is not fickle. But Ani as shown in the show is 100% fickle.

He calls Arshi achi ladki and then says he is scared of her He says people can fall in love multiple times and wants to nibahofy relationship with Arshi for kushaal zindagi and then asks Arshi to leave of she is not happy. Post aag episode, it was Ani who kept insisting to Arshi she was his wife and he did not need to complete their marriage to accept her. Now he is telling Jhanak, while Arshi refers to herself as his wife he does not accept it. When J came to tell him she was pregnant he accused J of trying to break up his wonderful married life with Arshi and repeatedly begged Arshi to uphold their marriage while asking J to not spoil his life marriage family and reputation.

I love Krushal as Ani - but Ani has been butchered characterwise. We can all choose to remember Ani from first 200 episodes for Krushal's brilliant acting, but Ani as shown in the show is extremely fickle, untrusting of J and has been unfair towards Arshi.

Arshi is a pathetic clingy stupid manipulative entitled woman; but that does not excuse Ani's running to her for comfort whenever he face issues with J. Problems stemming from a lack of awareness of self and proper introspection of oneself should have consequences and Ani is dealing with them. Now that he has started to break out of the Arshi deception and accepting the truth, hopefully his character will improve. Without trust there is no love. Till Runak trust eo they honestly cannot claim to love the other to the extent they claim. RN in the show Ani and J make tall claims of loving eo but I see very less manifestion of that love.

He does not trust her, she wants to ignore his pain and focus only on her sacrifice, J alternatingly sympathizes and taunts Ani and Arshi, Ani is ok with forcing his love to endure a toxic mentally crippling BH home while calling Arshi wife, to me none of these seems like true love. They are telling me so I have to believe it unseen.

Went longer than expected Rekha!! :)

If Leena can keep Runak conversation as base and valid for the upcoming episodes, I will be very happy to see what she will come up with next. Runak has to unite for Arshi preggy drama - so lets see. As I;ve said before J will nto be bothered abt the pregnancy - other than expecting Ani to take ownership. After she pushed him to be with Arshi she will be the biggest hypocrite if she has a problem with it.

Jhanak's initial reason for pushing Ani was her illegitimate child status, which she shared with Adi in Mumbai.

Since that was resolved, homewrecker tag is now the focus of conflict. It's quite evident that the writer is artificially forcing a vague narrative and constantly preventing clear communication to separate the leads.

Again, the lack of communication and artificially created misunderstandings are the story's key problems unlike Arshi or any homewrecker tag.

Ani's love for Jhanak is burning her, but he never considers the suffocation, humiliation, and painful torture his family inflicts on her.

Therefore, Jhanak's practical decision-making is severely affected, leading to low self-esteem and a lack of motivation to take a stand and fight. Undeniably, she always opts for the easiest route to escape from this undesirable situation due to this.

I sometimes feel Anirudh is equally responsible for Jhanak's dejected condition, despite all the positive things he has done for her. Jhanak already shared with Anirudh that no matter how much effort he put into enhancing her life, it always ended in pain and disgrace for her.

Uska pyaar jalata bhi aur abad bhi karta hai! 🔥

Originally posted by: sanfan

Hi Priya,

One thing is constant… that line you mentioned that Leena can tomorrow wipe out any conversation that we have here 😂😂😂😂 & another thing we both are at always at different tangents 🙈😂😂😂

This post I am going to focus on Jhanak largely but like I said I will write a response to your earlier post and this regarding Ani not because we have divergence in how we view Ani as how Leena interprets him and what he comes across as but just becos I love giving interpretations to scenes/ characters… although I am low on motivation now.

Bold - I view resentment in her actions but certainly not stemming from his initial hesitation… that’s wholly absurd… Are you saying Jhanak was holding this against Ani… … The resentment from the aftermath of the decision is a wholly different thing and there are nuances to it but If Jhanak’s resentment was from that initial refusal.. wouldn’t that mean she has a greater victimhood complex than say Arshi in this tale? Jhanak asked Ani to take that action in this tale simply becos it would have looked stupid if Ani suggested it. The suggestion had to come from her as Ani needed to be assured that it was a temporary arrangement… who else could have suggested it? Rahul perhaps but Ani would have only accepted if Jhanak has assented to it so my point is let’s move on to what follows… also.. if you see the initial Jhanak… she had a certain fierce quality ( low ambition or not is a separate point) about her that looked at fighting not giving up… Today a lot of the fierceness is gone cos circumstances have gone against her constantly..

Also it is timely to point out that all characterisations in stories work on expediency… Very rarely in this medium you will have a tale of clear conviction and a linear plot moving in straight line… it’s all about how much of the expediency is explained away in this tale with some basis.
I explained above one expediency.. Forced wedding itself is a trope to get two people under one roof… which expediency works for the viewer depends on how it is narrated.

Tales aren’t a slice of life… they aim for some relatability but very little else.. cos most love tales will collapse if we keep it too real. No Arshi will behave like this in real life, No Ani and No Jhanak…will either. Arshi and Ani would have parted long long ago whether on good or bad terms… Or if Ani was really in love with Arshi… he would have kept J at arm’s distance…

For me about stories and characterisations… it is about understanding the pov of the writer or their sensibility. When I watched this tale, I thought Leena is looking to say Love is Love and she is putting the lovers in a prison of their own making…and making this about how they get out of it…But now I don’t know … but the way I read it.. Jhanak making a big thing about morality needs to stack it up with how she feels when Ani actually goes away ( or is forced to go) from her life but not on her terms. Here she perceives herself perched at a very high moral ground secure in the knowledge that their love is enough to wade through life. But what happens when that status quo changes… will she be able to hold on to that high ground of “ I don’t want to come between you and my sister” ? Situations test our positions held on morality.. the lens through which we see it is always an evolving one and while some core aspects remain rigid and uncompromised… others change due to dynamics around it… like if you are playing fair but say the opponent isn’t etc

In this tale at this point, Jhanak has perched herself atop a hill based on her experiences and her perception of what life has dealt her, she is not ready to face any more What Ani does or doesn’t isn’t the thing that will bring her a notch below. It is what she does with new knowledge that is to be seen ( Leena stretching that like a chewing gum is a bore but I am assuming if the baby track doesn’t do it nothing will)

Ok now coming to the resentments you have mentioned.. you observations are hopefully not a static one… In our own relationships… we evolve… we have some understanding and then we gain more… then something happens that doesn’t tally with our new understanding we recalibrate… we learn more about people we profess to love… so does our understanding and acceptance. Jhanak has evolved through that process… as also Ani

There are resentments she holds in her heart no doubt… but hasn’t she also gained understanding about her relationship with Sirjee over the year? To reach the stage of “ I love you and I know you love me too immensely” … She asked Ani “ ISNT THAT ENOUGH FOR US” ? She asked Ani the question but it is Jhanak who will have to answer it.

@red Completely agreed!

Jhanak wholeheartedly embraced him during the Kashmir night and even dreamed of a happy married life with him till certain point.

However, the writer has now drastically shifted the narrative from her illegitimate child tag to the present homewrecker tag.

The blame lies squarely on poor writing. Business Business Business 😕