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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: sanfan

Hi Sowmya,

Welcome !! Nice to read your take.

The beauty of this serial ( so far despite some harakiri here and there) is it does not force feed its perspective ( the writerโ€™s I mean) down our throat. It is slowly letting the characters develop and letting the viewers a feel of it as the story goes along. It allows you to consider why a character may do this or did that.

bold - Yes, one of most beautiful character sketch written for an ITV ML - rare I say even if I donโ€™t watch a lot of itvโ€ฆ most ML sketches fall in the range of either toxic or too good to be true yet totally useless where it should matter ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ Ani is humane, his flaws are also written with such depthโ€ฆ I maintain Ani is Leenaโ€™s favourite character. And she got Krushal who has managed to get under the skin of Ani..so wonderfully.


Sowmya, about the incidents post aag.. while thatโ€™s one way to look at it, and it is an interesting one, I would have been more convinced of it if the writer hadnโ€™t thrown a curveball with the complete alienation of Jhanak and his self doubt and agar agar dialogues ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ but the only way that phase makes sense is he was consumed with guilt over his actions that he somehow felt contributed ( not directly) to the state of Arshi. It can happen to a person leading a dual life. That moment of reckoning where he has an epiphany or a realisation that his actions may have hurt someone he claimed to love. The writer, perhaps did not want to give it too much clarity as in some ways it could mar the flow of the love story that she is aiming to project and so decided to keep it vague. His monologue of Did Jhanak try to harm Arshi? was a source of confusion for me for the longest time but I later sorta made peace with it with this understanding that Ani genuinely made a u- turn at that stage.
Which if we come to think of it absolutely natural for someone with Aniโ€™s traits. He fell in love with Jhanak with a force of feeling beyond his control but he did not intend to deceive Arshiโ€ฆ so much so that even after acknowledging Jhanakโ€™s power over his thoughts, he did not think of breaking it off with Arshi coz in in his mind, until much much later he never linked the two. In Kashmir too while standing in that mandir, he was placating Arshi when the wedding was cancelled.
on that night of intimacy, in that delirium induced state, was the first time, he acknowledged the possibility that he wanted Jhanak in his life in a more permanent way and was willing to barter anything to have that. He extracted a promise that he remembered even post delirium ( donโ€™t ask me how that is possible -ask Leena) ๐Ÿ˜‚ He started to muster the courage to tell Jhanak he was feeling suffocated in the promise he had given her in lieu of her promise but couldnโ€™t go too far with Jhanak who had worries of her own. That led to Ani behaving like a petulant brat when J refuses him, and led to the great PDAโ€ฆ then aag happens.
While dealing with his guilt over his actionsโ€ฆ he perhaps felt that his PDA had perhaps driven Jhanak to harm Arshi ( its a fleeting thought that sometimes takes over your more guarded responses or thought) His preoccupation with Arshiโ€™s wellbeing and staying distant from Jhanak ( it was useful as a plot device too) was a result of his trying to make amends. Today his assertion that he tried to adjust with Arshi makes complete sense. He did his penance but where the heart is, one canโ€™t stay from it for too long.

Now coming to what his actions are and will be.. Leena will be coming to that facet of his character too at long lastโ€ฆ I would like to devote a post to that ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ Aniโ€™s character sketch is the hugest draw as is his foil Jhanak.. they arenโ€™t peas in a pod but somehow they stick ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

Thanks for the tag Rekha,

We did discuss a lot on these topics at that point. So now I am not replying ... You know naa my thoughts on Anirudh and his agar statement, why he didnt break off with Arshi.... ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฅฐ

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: ninaMAXWELL08

They both looked irritated ki a gayi dayan ..... I hope I'm not offending anyone by calling her a dayan smiley36

Just my 2 cent. BISH ARSHI DIDI DON'T DESERVE ANY EXPLANATION FROM ANI .......especially Ani. If someone is feeling bad for her I'll just give a little example of her inhumanity. When Ani got in to a bike accident and jhanak as a nurse was taking care of him .....arshi suddenly hurt him while combing his hair. So instead of apologising or getting worried about him the bish put the blame on Ani .....saying tum hi idhar udhar sir Ghuma rahe the.

So she's that kind of person who always phodo apni galtiyon ka tokra on someone else. Lol I just wish Ani iski bhar bhar ke bezatti kare. She doesn't deserve even a single drop of sympathy or regard from him .

Finally aaj arshi didi ke liye mere dil main jitni bhi feelings thi maine ache se bayan kar di ...don't care about her character anymore smiley35

Arey dil khol ke bajaao Didi ko yaar....I will never complain on that front smiley36....Usko jitni gaaliyaan padein, kam hain.....she's truly earned the daayan chudail titles rightly smiley36.

Oh haan, that's another good example from the accident track....ughh I get so triggered each time she treats Ani like he's some toy she can push around...like you said, ek hair comb karne mein bhi she was busy blaming him for getting hurt rather than apologizing....Ani ne hazaar jhoot bolein honge but he has always shown concern for her well being if she's in trouble or hurt....kabhi aise jaahilpana nahin dikhaya jo yeh madam constantly dikhaati hai...doesn't know how to treat anyone with humanity.

Ani ne toh abhi bas thodi beizzati karna shuru kiya hai....she deserves way more for the torture she's inflicted on both Ani and Jhanak.

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: AreYaar

@bold: Interesting....so you are happy that he is being honest about his feelings but you also think that Ani will solve the whole issue sensibly in one day? smiley36

OBVIOUSLY he's extremely desperate....I'm surprised he's still alive after the amount of rejection and isolation he's faced. He is clinging to Jhanak as a lifeline in the immediate scheme of things after just coming back from the jaws of death. He had given up on life totally after corroding himself from the inside in going along with the wishes of others. That is why he is jumping to cling to Jhanak as she is the only one that helps stabilize him and help him see light in the darkness. You can't expect total rationality from a starving soul...it takes time to get your bearings.

As for taking accountability for his words to Arshi and the family.....LOL who takes full accountability for their lies and harsh words in this story? Has Jhanak taken accountability for lying to Ani that she didn't mean the ILU she said to him in the hospital? Has she apologized for telling him that she's glad she didn't have a baby with his blood in it?

It has barely been two days since his heart attack and even in that much time, he's managed to express a lot of honesty about what he wants given the pressures that he's still facing.....his family still relentlessly imposes their wishes on him even when he clearly tells them what he wants. You really think if he just tells them I was lying about what I said before, they will believe him and accept his wishes? LOL no, his family and Arshi both live in a delusion of believing what they want to believe....this is why Ani tackles them the way he does.

Also, if Arshi cares so much, why doesn't she ask him directly ki why did you lie before that you love me and called me your wife? LOL.....because the truth is that she knew all along it was a lie....his family did too. They constantly mocked him about Jhanak even when he was trying to say he loves Arshi and Arshi is his wife....so what is there to even clarify? In this story, everyone denies the truth in front of their eyes....so the only option left is to just state your truth explicitly and walk the path of your truth then....sitting around giving explanations to vampires like this won't solve anything.

Ani is anyways facing accountability for the mistakes he made....heck he almost died and was gasping for his life since so many days. He is also likely going to get trapped in whatever legal documents Arshi made him sign....so then still why so much disappointment with Ani alone?

Also, why does everyone forget that anything he did was not in a vaccuum....the two mahaan Raina sisters played their own part in the mess getting to this point.....but the expectations from them are always rock bottom....lol Arshi left Ani to die and even that didn't drain sympathy for her it seemssmiley36

Hey! I agree with most of the things you say! And have we met before in Katha Ankahee forum? Sorry if I'm mistaken...

First things first, I have no sympathy, not even an ounce for Arshi!๐Ÿฅน She deserves even more than what she got and will get in the coming epis...๐Ÿคž

I just want them to realise how big what Ani is doing now, that it took him 300+ epis to get the clarity and just don't show it in an abrupt way and brush it under the carpet but to ensure the importance of his clarity and him finally accepting his love for Jhanak to be a very important aspect of the show and its viewers. I want them to focus on his realisation aspect more and less on side characters and arshi-bh drama simplistically speaking.

This is an EXTREMELY HUGE realisation to him and long time coming for viewers so they can't just ignore it like all other short term aspects they ignored for the sake of drama... That's all I was trying to say.

He needs to be shown putting more thought into it from his pov, J's pov and Arshi's pov also because he's the only sensible one to atleast analyse all this now...

A monologue where he's thinking to himself will also do...

That's all I want.... Let's see what they'll do now...

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: AreYaar

LOL no offense, but I think you may be expecting WAY more emotional complexity from this story than actually exists smiley36....Ani is not written as deeply as you seem to be thinking here....lol "emotional complexity" in this story doesn't range beyond sudden pregnancy news then suddenly turning into tumor newssmiley36....and all that just serving as a backdrop for the leads to hurl insults at each other or MU each other in a highly toxic way relentlessly to increase episode count smiley36

No one really "analyzes" anything to that level in this story.....warna Ani wouldn't have needed more than 300 episodes to get clarity about his feelings for Jhanaksmiley36.....analysis kar diya toh 500-1000 episodes nahin ban paayenge. Story will be solved in two days and kaam khatam.

Maybe people have gotten used to Ani obfuscating for so long that they are missing his lies about loving Arshi? smiley36.....It doesn't feel normal to see an Ani who is candidly admitting that he loves and wants only Jhanak? LOL would it feel more comforting if he was still spinning stories for his family while finding ways to keep Jhanak by his side as "zimmedaari"? smiley36

He has been shown to realize that the main reason for his suffering is that he kept trying to adjust as per what his family was demanding from him....he told all those lies to pacify his family, Arshi and live the life they had mapped out for him....he never reflected on what made him happy....now he is doing that and expressing his wishes....ismein aur kaunse analysis ki zaroorat hai is waqt exactly? Ani is hardly some sant baba ki baith ke apni puri life ka jaayza lega is waqtsmiley36....he wants to LIVE after suffocating himself for so long. It's as simple as that.

Aage peechhe ka he tackles as it comes....that is a core Ani trait that I doubt will ever change because it brings drama in the story too.....lol

@bold: might be true... Will know soon enough...๐Ÿ˜…

And as for Ani not being a sant baba...๐Ÿ˜† Honestly that's what I love about him the most.

As I already replied to your previous response I just want them to show the importance of his realisation in a mature way. Not by doing khalesh and drama because this is the biggest turning point in the show after 300 epis...

Just a bit of expectation for them to show the importance of their own grand twist....

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: sowmya2407

Hey! I agree with most of the things you say! And have we met before in Katha Ankahee forum? Sorry if I'm mistaken...

First things first, I have no sympathy, not even an ounce for Arshi!๐Ÿฅน She deserves even more than what she got and will get in the coming epis...๐Ÿคž

I just want them to realise how big what Ani is doing now, that it took him 300+ epis to get the clarity and just don't show it in an abrupt way and brush it under the carpet but to ensure the importance of his clarity and him finally accepting his love for Jhanak to be a very important aspect of the show and its viewers. I want them to focus on his realisation aspect more and less on side characters and arshi-bh drama simplistically speaking.

This is an EXTREMELY HUGE realisation to him and long time coming for viewers so they can't just ignore it like all other short term aspects they ignored for the sake of drama... That's all I was trying to say.

He needs to be shown putting more thought into it from his pov, J's pov and Arshi's pov also because he's the only sensible one to atleast analyse all this now...

A monologue where he's thinking to himself will also do...

That's all I want.... Let's see what they'll do now...

I got your point ..

Makers never invested enough time on showing Anishit incompatibility or anything fruitful regarding Anishit, positive or negative...Arshi angle is always used to ignite viewers' displeasure and irritation..The makers wasted time on showing Anishit faltu convos after aag incident. Instead, they could have invested the same time and effort in showing growing incompatibility between Anishit. This would have made Anirudh's claim of his inability to adjust with her clearer to the eyes...ofcourse incompatibility has been there for a long time, but it was never pointed out explicitly for the viewers..those who analyse the characters will understand the incompatibility angle more deeply, others will judge it superficially..

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: MayaFruitbae

Thanks for the tag Rekha,

We did discuss a lot on these topics at that point. So now I am not replying ... You know naa my thoughts on Anirudh and his agar statement, why he didnt break off with Arshi.... ๐Ÿฅฐ๐Ÿฅฐ

I love your love for Ani smiley31โค๏ธ

Even if I donโ€™t love him the same wayโ€ฆ I do love Ani ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ bas Jhanak Rani jitna nahin ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: sowmya2407

Hey! I agree with most of the things you say! And have we met before in Katha Ankahee forum? Sorry if I'm mistaken...

First things first, I have no sympathy, not even an ounce for Arshi!๐Ÿฅน She deserves even more than what she got and will get in the coming epis...๐Ÿคž

I just want them to realise how big what Ani is doing now, that it took him 300+ epis to get the clarity and just don't show it in an abrupt way and brush it under the carpet but to ensure the importance of his clarity and him finally accepting his love for Jhanak to be a very important aspect of the show and its viewers. I want them to focus on his realisation aspect more and less on side characters and arshi-bh drama simplistically speaking.

This is an EXTREMELY HUGE realisation to him and long time coming for viewers so they can't just ignore it like all other short term aspects they ignored for the sake of drama... That's all I was trying to say.

He needs to be shown putting more thought into it from his pov, J's pov and Arshi's pov also because he's the only sensible one to atleast analyse all this now...

A monologue where he's thinking to himself will also do...

That's all I want.... Let's see what they'll do now...

Oh hi...you were in Katha forum? Sorry I guess I'm not able to recall....I was only there for a brief timesmiley36...but nice to meet you again :)

@bold: LOL unfortunately this is not the show for thatsmiley36....in this show, side characters and the rantings/ravings of evil Bose fam + Arshi/Srishti take precedence over everything else smiley36.....that is why Ani even managing to express his truths, his emotions even this much feels like a huge victory to those of us who have suffered through 300 episodes in real time smiley36

90% of the scenes have been just monologues for so long with the characters just busy in their own presumptions that it is a very big deal that Ani is even opening his mouth to say this muchsmiley36....that is why I'm not poking the bear much by expecting more right now....lol what we are being given even now is a huge gift from Leena Aunty who otherwise only likes to torture Ani relentlessly by keeping him confused or MU-ing things smiley36

That said, I guess it's just been a few episodes....they just may show Ani having a more introspective monologue in the future about all these things....Leena Aunty loves to throw things in when you're least expecting them....lol patience is greatly needed to sit through her narrative style in real timesmiley36

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: Dibya_C

I got your point ..

Makers never invested enough time on showing Anishit incompatibility or anything fruitful regarding Anishit, positive or negative...Arshi angle is always used to ignite viewers' displeasure and irritation..The makers wasted time on showing Anishit faltu convos after aag incident. Instead, they could have invested the same time and effort in showing growing incompatibility between Anishit. This would have made Anirudh's claim of his inability to adjust with her clearer to the eyes...ofcourse incompatibility has been there for a long time, but it was never pointed out explicitly for the viewers..those who analyse the characters will understand the incompatibility angle more deeply, others will judge it superficially..

Exactly! It's high time makers give clarity in Ani's pov so that people can connect with him more at this crucial stage...

This realisation that Ani has now is a culmination of his sufferings and wrong choices. They need to hype it, build it up... And give clarity to people who want to understand him more and people like me who want to hype him even more....๐Ÿคฃ

That's all I ask as a fan...

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: sowmya2407

Hey! I agree with most of the things you say! And have we met before in Katha Ankahee forum? Sorry if I'm mistaken...

First things first, I have no sympathy, not even an ounce for Arshi!๐Ÿฅน She deserves even more than what she got and will get in the coming epis...๐Ÿคž

I just want them to realise how big what Ani is doing now, that it took him 300+ epis to get the clarity and just don't show it in an abrupt way and brush it under the carpet but to ensure the importance of his clarity and him finally accepting his love for Jhanak to be a very important aspect of the show and its viewers. I want them to focus on his realisation aspect more and less on side characters and arshi-bh drama simplistically speaking.

This is an EXTREMELY HUGE realisation to him and long time coming for viewers so they can't just ignore it like all other short term aspects they ignored for the sake of drama... That's all I was trying to say.

He needs to be shown putting more thought into it from his pov, J's pov and Arshi's pov also because he's the only sensible one to atleast analyse all this now...

A monologue where he's thinking to himself will also do...

That's all I want.... Let's see what they'll do now...

I wasnโ€™t in the Katha Ankahee forum.. I am writing after ages โ€ฆ

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: sanfan

I wasnโ€™t in the Katha Ankahee forum.. I am writing after ages โ€ฆ

Oh ok ok. Sorry. My bad.๐Ÿ˜…

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