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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Only reason people are making all these guesses is cuz Leena has relentlessly conditioned everyone to keep thinking of ways that Runak can be seperated smiley36.....she has nonstop shown that for nearly 350 episodes now so everyone's mind jumps in that direction only that every accident, every near death experience is a sign of some new reason for seperation or MUsmiley36

People will be in disbelief if she manages to show Runak together somehow nowsmiley36....that is why abhi bhi yakeen nahin ho raha ki Ani ne sab kuch itna clearly bol diya aaj.....lol everyone's waiting for the other shoe to dropsmiley36

But I'm still getting a feeling that Jhanak so upfront telling Ani they aren't possible since Kismat/God doesn't want it makes it seem like Leena will reverse that presumption for a bit somehow smiley36.....upar se aaj Ani bechara roya bhi kitna ki usko itni sazaa kyun mil rahi hai....lol toh shayad thode time ke liye kuch taras khaa le Leena ispesmiley36

Leena ji ki karamat..sabko tenterhooks pe rakha hain πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Today’s episode was fabulous at various levels.

The other day Chotton talked about divorce, today Minu talked about probabilities, possibilities, Ani had such a refreshing take on moving on. Honest and heartfelt. He said Arshi khush nahin hain… he recognises that and willing to take accountability for that. Jhanak is clear that Arshi being in the equation in any form excludes her acceptance.

A relationship is nurtured in both sickness and health. Jhanak will learn to do that. I hope Leena can tell us a tale of that paradigm change… to love with gay abandon ❀️

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: ninaMAXWELL08

Bold : see ? This is what I wanted to say last night. Ki jo yeh sab bol raha hai ki adjust nahi kar paya , tried to move on , tum sudhri nahi .... this is all just his way to make it clear ki ab kuch nahi ho sakta. yeh line baar baar isliye bol raha hai ki dekh lo "maine mauka diya is rishte ko" so that ab koi yeh na bol de ki try toh Karo ek baar smiley37 .....he just wanted to make it clear ki HO GAYA TRY NOW LET ME LIVE THE WAY I WANT TO.

Agar isne yeh bola ki I don't love her I love jhanak ... toh gharwale yahi toh bolengay ki adjust karlo har koi karta hai shadi main. Just live like token husband wife. ......toh seedha yahi bol diya ki adjust hi nahi ho payasmiley37. Iske aage toh kya bolengay gharwale . He used "adjust" word in the best way possible smiley16

Lol Bipasha ka toh Sapna tha na tanuja ki bahu ban na . She told her in one of the episode Kash aap meri SaaS hoti smiley37smiley37. No wonder she's so jealous of jhanak.

@bold: Bang on! smiley32....Khel gaya humara BHOLA ANIsmiley37

Adjustment waali baat pe hi full stop lagaa diya so that family can't keep asking him to adjust for the sake of appearances....lol he knows these vampires and their methods well smiley36

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: MayaFruitbae

This is me expressing my admiration for Anirudh..

Tagging few , You girls can skip if not interested .

The hand holds that defined a sense of belonging, the feeling of being secure, the assurance of main hoon as always... They both are redefining a simple hand hold...

Anirudh was stern and clear today , I would stand for your dignity . Family have insulted you a lot..The realisation of his love for her, the marriage which he considered real as days progressed. Him falling out of love towards Arshi, the adjustments, unable to forget Jhanak and finally the declaration, main jee nahi paunga tumhare bina... Yes, we have seen him lifeless, going with the flow.. When she left him... Anirudh falling in love was a beautiful phase....His acceptance of love and standing for love was so awesome... As it took time and gave him the much needed clarity.The ILU was soothing with his tears and longing... The yearning of him to be with her ...

The beautiful phase of falling in love for him, from meeting a stranger to falling in love unknowingly , it was slow and deep....

From thinking Arshi was innocent and its my fault, he has realised that they were not compatible and she didn't make adjustments inspite of him trying too. Why spoil 3 lives when he is sure he cant stay with Arshi...

I loved Jhanak and her words of there is nothing surprising when he said I love you ... Assuring him she was aware of his feelings for her

I have zero hopes from his family, he said it many times now after mumbai hospital track , but Tanuja is still under the illusion that he is speaking due to the medication and behaving odd..


Jhanak I hope stands with him as now Anirudh is accepting them publicly infront of his family and Arshi ....

Crying men are beautiful and Anirudh is the most beautiful of them... 😘😘


Falling in love with Anirudh more n more.. ❀❀❀

The emotions and expression even when crying was so apt. The voice, eyes, body language , everything was perfect.. Fabulous actor

Anirudh is love and so is Krushal. 🧿🧿

thanks for the update and tag Maya.

I πŸ’― agree with you. This is the outcome I was hoping for this track - clear cut confession in full hoshon hawas.. no memory loss, no unconscious confession, no doubt, no mercy acceptance… it was confession of love with heart and mind. Jhanak also accepted his confession and conveyed her own love, very clearly.

So clearly conveyed by Anirudh - he cannot live with anyone other than her

So clearly told by Jhanak - that now she cannot fall in live with anyone else.

Jamana and situation can be enemy of their love but these two know and have accepted their love . This is all I was expecting from this track and the track ended beautifully.

I loved the line by Anirudh- If you can’t live in my house, I will live with you.. this is where love has brought him, no ego but pure love. At the edge of losing his life, he got the clarity … live your life for your happiness.

Now going to read other of forum wasis views. Views change home ke Pehle wanted to give my raw view smiley36

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: sanfan

Leena ji ki karamat..sabko tenterhooks pe rakha hain πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Today’s episode was fabulous at various levels.

The other day Chotton talked about divorce, today Minu talked about probabilities, possibilities, Ani had such a refreshing take on moving on. Honest and heartfelt. He said Arshi khush nahin hain… he recognises that and willing to take accountability for that. Jhanak is clear that Arshi being in the equation in any form excludes her acceptance.

A relationship is nurtured in both sickness and health. Jhanak will learn to do that. I hope Leena can tell us a tale of that paradigm change… to love with gay abandon ❀️

Yes, I loved how Ani and Meenu both talked about moving on today....very candid and heartfelt.

Also I have to laugh that everyone kept shaming Ani for so long about "do naav mein savaar" but when he is clearly choosing one side, now they are calling that wrong too....lol so clearly they are only interested in shaming him for not doing their bidding...it was never about a moral judgement on any so called "two timing".....it was about wanting him to choose only Arshi.

Now when he is candidly saying that he cannot adjust with Arshi and there is nothing wrong with moving on in life if things don't work out, then also his family is trying to pass moral judgement on that...lol

Jhanak is also poised at an interesting point now with her perspective.....Leena Aunty has not shown her reciprocating Ani's ILU today for a reason....lol even though he understood without her saying it....but focus today was all on Ani pouring out his feelings and Jhanak absorbing them, respecting them, even if she didn't reciprocate. So that makes me wonder if Leena Aunty has some plan up her sleeve about when and how Jhanak will say that ILU to him without being under the influence of drugssmiley36

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: ninaMAXWELL08

Bold: you know I was just about to web search this word .....than realised what the hell it is .smiley37smiley37

lol! 😜 Too funny 🀣 just couldn’t resist the term … I hate her serials somehow… her usp I guess is picking up on chemistry and basically use a hackneyed plot and just superimpose the leads into stupid plots whose chemistry she has perhaps a knack to spot!!

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: AreYaar


Jhanak is also poised at an interesting point now with her perspective.....Leena Aunty has not shown her reciprocating Ani's ILU today for a reason....lol even though he understood without her saying it....but focus today was all on Ani pouring out his feelings and Jhanak absorbing them, respecting them, even if she didn't reciprocate. So that makes me wonder if Leena Aunty has some plan up her sleeve about when and how Jhanak will say that ILU to him without being under the influence of drugssmiley36

for that, how is she gonna come to terms with her feelings when uski sui abi b "sirji ko thk krne k baad give him back to didi" pr hi atki hui h?? like when will she come out of this illusion before even fully acknowledging her feelings and actions all being symbolic of her love for anirudh?
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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: MJ_1009

for that, how is she gonna come to terms with her feelings when uski sui abi b "sirji ko thk krne k baad give him back to didi" pr hi atki hui h?? like when will she come out of this illusion before even fully acknowledging her feelings and actions all being symbolic of her love for anirudh?

Arey she will come to terms with it magically one day kaise bhi jab Leena Aunty ka mood huasmiley36.....same way unka mood ho gaya hai ab to give Ani total CLARITY and that's why he's speaking up clearly without hesitation what he wants and who he doesn't want to live withsmiley36

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Yes, I loved how Ani and Meenu both talked about moving on today....very candid and heartfelt.

Also I have to laugh that everyone kept shaming Ani for so long about "do naav mein savaar" but when he is clearly choosing one side, now they are calling that wrong too....lol so clearly they are only interested in shaming him for not doing their bidding...it was never about a moral judgement on any so called "two timing".....it was about wanting him to choose only Arshi.

Now when he is candidly saying that he cannot adjust with Arshi and there is nothing wrong with moving on in life if things don't work out, then also his family is trying to pass moral judgement on that...lol

Jhanak is also poised at an interesting point now with her perspective.....Leena Aunty has not shown her reciprocating Ani's ILU today for a reason....lol even though he understood without her saying it....but focus today was all on Ani pouring out his feelings and Jhanak absorbing them, respecting them, even if she didn't reciprocate. So that makes me wonder if Leena Aunty has some plan up her sleeve about when and how Jhanak will say that ILU to him without being under the influence of drugssmiley36

Bold - yes I do think Leena will make her open her cards which she has tightly held close to her heart. On many things, we see movement on Jhanak’s pov ; she recognises that Arshi in the mix is an impediment but she has less understanding in her limited experience of how such things can be rewritten. I hope Leena deals with the theme of moving on nicely as she has shown the courage to articulate it.

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: sanfan

lol! 😜 Too funny 🀣 just couldn’t resist the term … I hate her serials somehow… her usp I guess is picking up on chemistry and basically use a hackneyed plot and just superimpose the leads into stupid plots whose chemistry she has perhaps a knack to spot!!

This plot too ....living with each other without even getting married for family's sake .. yeh bhi kekta ka hi plot hai to create mu between the leads. She used it in my last ekta serial MERI AASHIQUI TUMSE HI .

Isi mu ke basis pe the dumb FL of her show decided to accept the proposal of parallel lead smiley37smiley37. That too just seconds after "making out" with the ML ....because she didn't wanted to ruin his marriage smiley37smiley37

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: sanfan

This is an interesting perspective and as a person who has keenly observed Ani’s character traits…. .i feel compelled to respond to this post.

Before responding to your specific points, I wish to detour a bit; so please bear with me…

When a relationship breaks down, it’s said that only the two involved can actually say what went wrong… but here we are privy to what’s happening so we can pass judgment or be fence sitters etc That said, as viewers we may have different ways in which they we see this…

Broadly, the theme being explored in this context by Leena appears to be incompatibility..This has been clear in the narrative for a long time but since Leena has less manoeuvrability to do this within the itv structure she has thrown the curveball of β€œseparation” when there hasn’t even been a real wedding between Arshi and Ani but take this as an euphemism and proceed ahead. It is a recognition of the fact that irrespective of whatever you call the relationship, the fact they were committed to each other in the past and are staled to move on… so what do they do? How do they reconcile the past especially since there is a new budding relationship at stake?

Generally, two people with extremely different temperaments , vastly different disposition often make a go of relationships but usually one trait that helps these relationships along the way is general level of tolerance for differences in the other. I don’t see that in the Ani Arshi relationship. It’s never necessary for two individuals in a relationship to agree on every aspect.. but usually in a healthy relationship, the partner makes his/her displeasure known and the partners together negotiate the tricky situation. Either one accepts the other’s perspective or they both agree to disagree and negotiate the tough time. Failing both, differences continue to persist and deepens.

Ani’s sensitivity towards certain matters was a known thread in this narrative. Right from the first of the Kashmir episodes, Ani’s empathy for the underdog was evident and while he may not have initiated the rebellion of sorts by Jhanak ( orchestrated by Arshi) but he went with the spirit and later the events spiralled out of control.

the decisions he took at that point, he was acting on instinct and his sense of righteousness; to have a partner with whom he could have bounced off would have been great but situationally the chance was missed… from then on he was basically playing catch up or to put it bluntly was looking to balance matters.In fact, he was strongly of the opinion that Arshi would support him even if no one understood him. That mirage shattered soon enough ( probably around the time Jhanak tries to go back to Kashmir ( with Tejas the first time) and from then on…. he kept finding ways in which he could just do things for Jhanak trying to keep it from Arshi so that there is peace. In this narrative, Ani’s attempts to convince Arshi were there and Arshi appeared to have bought it too at certain points but the relentless pressure from her mom played havoc in their relationship and her own self doubt made it futile at other times. They never showed the two sitting down and discussing the matter of Jhanak except as a way to obfuscate on Ani’s end and threatening on Arshi’s end. By this I mean, Ani wasn’t entirely honest with Arshi and Arshi was refusing to treat this as an issue close to Ani’s heart. Thus they never tried to find a solution that keeps both parties happy.. Ani’s trait of finding path of least resistance also played a part in this…The battle of ends vs means while facing a battalion who refused to do even the bare minimum in terms of humanity. On the other hand, Arshi treated this as an ego battle largely and she was shown confused, overbearing, threatening in turns… Who bears more responsibility is something we can have different perspectives on and this is akin to a lot of he said she said etc. Viewers at this stage can take sides on who precipitated the downfall in the relationship etc but the deathknell for the relationship had begun.

At Ani’s end, the more he tried to keep things quiet…the more it got messier and it perhaps didn’t help that Ani was forming a deep association with Jhanak as this happened. His intention to help Jhanak was also getting enmeshed with his heart’s desire deeper and deeper. There is a dialogue between Ani and Jhanak during the Rahul fiasco where Jhanak asks him duniya main kitne log takleef main toh kya sabki madad karenge? Ani simply responds β€œ Unme se koi Jhanak nahin” Yet, in all this saga, Ani kept trying to reconcile with Arshi too whether by choice or by compulsion.

Coming to Arshi, … The narrative presents to us( me) an Arshi who is like any other person, who is quite proud of her accomplishments, gentle to begin with but clearly with a sense of superiority. Jhanak was a project for her fleetingly. When she took the mantle to help Jhanak, it was largely pity that motivated her.. well nothing wrong in that… a lot of people respond to people in need out of that but such empathy is generally skin deep. Arshi deeply misunderstood Ani’s sense of empathy. Ani never responded to Jhanak out of pity. It was with a deep sense of empathy for her circumstances. It was in this crucial phase where the two partners were deeply divided.
From then on, Arshi started calling the shots on how this help for Jhanak must be directed without realising that for Ani the association was personal. Ani should take responsibility for not conveying his emotions to Arshi honestly and maybe they would have either parted amicably then or fought and resolved… it one way or the other. Ani’s trait of keeping things bottled up definitely led to the crisis but it wasn’t done with the intention to deceive Arshi to begin with. The deception began much later from Ani but by then Arshi was playing a game of her own. there’s a dialogue from Arshi at some stage where she is questioning Ani with a knowing look but acting as if the answer doesn’t bother her. The stakes had got bigger for her and her ego couldn’t settle for losing to a lowly person. These two just weren’t honest to each other in different ways.
Apportioning of blame is an easy matter… it’s the introspection that is difficult. It’s in this place that Leena I think tries to balance the perspectives. There’s a sense of fait accompli in the Ani Arshi relationship where both do not make a genuine attempt to resolve cos perhaps they both don’t want it enough or o want it only one’s own terms. The narrative is clear and I think we must make this distinction that while Ani may owe Arshi something due to his dalliance with Jhanak and keeping Arshi in the dark, the narrative also treats Ani as an individual in a relationship… who has the freedom to make decisions that may or may not be acceptable to the other partner. Ani doesn’t lose autonomy in that and this where the point of incompatibility comes into play.

Obviously this is a fictional story so, there wil be an attempt to shine light on one perspective more than the other but at a broader level, I am reading this simply as an incompatible partnership; the Arshi presented to me was one who felt Ani had no autonomy and things must proceed as per her or her mother’s wish. Yes, there were points where she felt Ani’s betrayal as a slight or pain ( I couldn’t tell) As viewers, we can react to either or both emotions. Personally, I can say, Arshi’s sense of betrayal could have been a powerful tale but only if Arshi did something with that other than threatening Ani.

now coming to your specific point on his rudeness with Arshi… the way I see it… Ani’s love for Jhanak aside… he is expressing that he did not find Arshi by his side in his biggest battle. He may not have chosen the best words to articulate that He may have expectations of her just as Arshi had of him. Ofc he is not completely honest in his perspective about how that came about but can we say that he alone is to blame for the downfall of this relationship? Hypothetically, if Arshi had supported his decision to support Jhanak ( even if it wasn’t whole hearted), Ani may have still fallen in love with Jhanak…. Personally for me, then.. it would have been easier to lay the blame solely at his door… but here the narrative is telling me they both weren’t compatible… they did not make attempt to resuscitate the relationship. Ani has a bigger cross to bear ( due to his traits) and this narrative will make him bear it but Arshi too didn’t invest enough in the relationship to resolve the differences.

Now coming to your charge of Ani making Arshi a cold person, the narrative hasn’t given me sufficient clues to say that.. Here, no one was expecting Arshi to be warm to Jhanak… in any relationship of this kind, three is a crowd so Arshi being nice to Jhanak wasn’t part of the deal but humane definitely was… you decide your level of humanity… that has nothing to do with anyone (Ani and his actions for Jhanak) . Ani’s expectation from Arshi and others was only humanity and they all fell short of it. Ani wasn’t bothered by the reaction of others but yes that of Arshi would have unsettled him. I am not saying that has anything to do with him falling in love with Jhanak… I repeat he did not fall in love with Jhanak due to Arshi’s behaviour… that’s his own doing and nowhere in the narrative is that connected…which is again the beauty of the narrative so far. What Ani owes to Arshi is a heartfelt apology for his emotional infidelity towards Arshi ( physical yes but he was unaware πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚) and which is why I say he has a bigger cross to bear than anyone else and this will surely bear out in the narrative… also the place where Jhanak’s love for Ani will be most visible… Arshi taking this insult to a different level ( if Arshi remains relevant in the tale) will be a matter for the lovebirds to negotiate.Ani is not afraid to be accountable for his mistakes and that is a strong ML in my eyes… As for the characterisation of FL… I understand the gymnastics the writers are having to deal with πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ so let’s see how it. I do think the arc of Jhanak will also grow substantially given the love and care the writer has shown for Ani in building up his arc… how much of it will meet audience expectations I can’t say…


Sorry for the long post.. wasn’t my intention to make this long detour πŸ˜‚ but I have a tendency to digress πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Please feel free to pen your thoughts, I have tagged some here… if I miss others don’t hesitate to air your thoughts…


@bold Well said!

Jhanak and Ani are destined to be together so Arshi is nowhere in this case.

As Jhanak said yesterday: 'Agar Khuda waqi me chahta to hum sath hoty, per wo nahi chahta hamra sath'

Without realizing the fact that it's always Divine intervention that brings them close, Jhanak should think logically: she married him first, became physically intimate with him first, and became his first intense love interest, so ye Khuda ki marzi nahi to kya thi?

Itna demotivate hona isn't good! πŸ˜‘

Hope she realizes the significance of their relationship that Khuda intiated their bond first with legal wedding, followed by their hearts, enfolding with passionate love and intense emotions, as well as concern for each other ❀️

Arshi ka hona ya na hone never matters for Anirudh as he's always attracted to Jhanak from Kashmir days, bas bose house me rehny se he got that fortunate chance to convert that attraction into deep love for her πŸ”₯

Inka milan to Khuda ne phele se hi likh diya tha! πŸ’―

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