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Posted: 11 months ago

Originally posted by: AreYaar

So true....that Daadi was calling Arshi such a guni ladki even after that girl left her grandson to die smiley37

Still no one seems to remember that Ani did so much for Arshi when she was in trauma while she's the one who didn't step up for him in crisis

https://x.com/Cindy56928823/status/1845454889767333951

Seriously Ani really needs a new family . Ajeeb cartoons hai . Ani is like their "goldenboy" jo hath se nikal gaya hai isliye usko control karne ke liye yeh sab bakwas karte rehte hai.

Now that Ani sab kuch sabke samne khulle main bol raha hai to they are just trying to gaslight him ....tum main hi koi khot hogi. Lol waah tammi tumhari guni ladki ani ko marne ke liye chodh gayi thi .....yeh baat samajh a rahi hai ya aapko koi bhulne ki bimari hai ? smiley7

Vaise arshi se jyada toh Bipasha deranged ex jaisa behave karti hai Ani ke sath. aisa lagta hai Ani ne isko dhoka diya hai arshi ko nahi smiley37.

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Posted: 11 months ago

Originally posted by: ninaMAXWELL08

Seriously Ani really needs a new family . Ajeeb cartoons hai . Ani is like their "goldenboy" jo hath se nikal gaya hai isliye usko control karne ke liye yeh sab bakwas karte rehte hai.

Now that Ani sab kuch sabke samne khulle main bol raha hai to they are just trying to gaslight him ....tum main hi koi khot hogi. Lol waah tammi tumhari guni ladki ani ko marne ke liye chodh gayi thi .....yeh baat samajh a rahi hai ya aapko koi bhulne ki bimari hai ? smiley7

Vaise arshi se jyada toh Bipasha deranged ex jaisa behave karti hai Ani ke sath. aisa lagta hai Ani ne isko dhoka diya hai arshi ko nahi smiley37.

Seriously Bips is shown more triggered than Arshi ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ’ฏ

Bula bulake ukasti rehti hain

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Posted: 11 months ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkQnOWOGrv4

spa cute #runak nok jhok with other couples from star plus doing some shart baazi smiley36

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Posted: 11 months ago

Originally posted by: ninaMAXWELL08

Seriously Ani really needs a new family . Ajeeb cartoons hai . Ani is like their "goldenboy" jo hath se nikal gaya hai isliye usko control karne ke liye yeh sab bakwas karte rehte hai.

Now that Ani sab kuch sabke samne khulle main bol raha hai to they are just trying to gaslight him ....tum main hi koi khot hogi. Lol waah tammi tumhari guni ladki ani ko marne ke liye chodh gayi thi .....yeh baat samajh a rahi hai ya aapko koi bhulne ki bimari hai ? smiley7

Vaise arshi se jyada toh Bipasha deranged ex jaisa behave karti hai Ani ke sath. aisa lagta hai Ani ne isko dhoka diya hai arshi ko nahi smiley37.

Aisa "goldenboy" hone se achha ki black sheep ho jaao family kasmiley36.....as you said, he is just someone they want to control as per their whims even as they constantly keep insulting him....usko kuch izzat toh dete nahin but expect him to fulfill all their orders *rolls eyes*

And notice how they are no longer claiming ki Ani toh Arshi se pyar karta hai toh usko nahin chhod sakta blah blah....now all their statements are about trying to pressurize him ki Arshi is your wife toh uske saath raho....or claiming that Arshi loves him...lol is sab mein kahin bhi none of them talk about who Ani loves or what makes him happy...it's always just about mix and match of orders ki Arshi pe focused raho, we don't care about anything else.

Ani ne yeh "main adjust nahin kar paaya" line bolke bigger masterstroke khela hai than simply saying "I don't love Arshi"....lol cuz love ke baare mein bolta toh they may have pressurized him ki pehle bhi pyar karte the toh phir se kar loge....but he is clear cut making it an adjustment thing that he is incapable of living with Arshi nowsmiley36

Bipasha toh shuru se hi salty ex vibes deti hai....lol someone should call her out in the story ki Ani ki love life se itni obsessed kyun hai yeh so called "bhabhi" of his? smiley36

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Posted: 11 months ago

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Memory loss for Jhanak at this point won't work....like I've said before also, they both atleast need to build some memories together first before they lose themsmiley36

Ani has made it clear he's done with Arshi and he never considered himself married to her...lol so for all practical purposes he's calling himself single but mann se Jhanak ka patismiley36

Ab Arshi khud aake chep hone ka try kar sakti but Ani ne toh saaf dikha diya hai usko that he is off limits for hersmiley36

Memory loss is so passรฉ and Kektaishโ€ฆ ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ I hope after the creativity shown in the tracks so far ( despite stupidity too) Leena wonโ€™t resort to the ML ๐Ÿ˜‚

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Posted: 11 months ago

Originally posted by: MayaFruitbae

This is me expressing my admiration for Anirudh..

Tagging few , You girls can skip if not interested .

The hand holds that defined a sense of belonging, the feeling of being secure, the assurance of main hoon as always... They both are redefining a simple hand hold...

Anirudh was stern and clear today , I would stand for your dignity . Family have insulted you a lot..The realisation of his love for her, the marriage which he considered real as days progressed. Him falling out of love towards Arshi, the adjustments, unable to forget Jhanak and finally the declaration, main jee nahi paunga tumhare bina... Yes, we have seen him lifeless, going with the flow.. When she left him... Anirudh falling in love was a beautiful phase....His acceptance of love and standing for love was so awesome... As it took time and gave him the much needed clarity.The ILU was soothing with his tears and longing... The yearning of him to be with her ...

The beautiful phase of falling in love for him, from meeting a stranger to falling in love unknowingly , it was slow and deep....

From thinking Arshi was innocent and its my fault, he has realised that they were not compatible and she didn't make adjustments inspite of him trying too. Why spoil 3 lives when he is sure he cant stay with Arshi...

I loved Jhanak and her words of there is nothing surprising when he said I love you ... Assuring him she was aware of his feelings for her

I have zero hopes from his family, he said it many times now after mumbai hospital track , but Tanuja is still under the illusion that he is speaking due to the medication and behaving odd..


Jhanak I hope stands with him as now Anirudh is accepting them publicly infront of his family and Arshi ....

Crying men are beautiful and Anirudh is the most beautiful of them... ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜


Falling in love with Anirudh more n more.. โคโคโค

The emotions and expression even when crying was so apt. The voice, eyes, body language , everything was perfect.. Fabulous actor

Anirudh is love and so is Krushal. ๐Ÿงฟ๐Ÿงฟ

Maya beautiful post

Beautifully articulated

Loved Sirjee today โค๏ธ & Jhanak rani too

Krushal ๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ‘Œ

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Posted: 11 months ago

Originally posted by: sanfan

Memory loss is so passรฉ and Kektaishโ€ฆ ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ I hope after the creativity shown in the tracks so far ( despite stupidity too) Leena wonโ€™t resort to the ML ๐Ÿ˜‚

Only reason people are making all these guesses is cuz Leena has relentlessly conditioned everyone to keep thinking of ways that Runak can be seperated smiley36.....she has nonstop shown that for nearly 350 episodes now so everyone's mind jumps in that direction only that every accident, every near death experience is a sign of some new reason for seperation or MUsmiley36

People will be in disbelief if she manages to show Runak together somehow nowsmiley36....that is why abhi bhi yakeen nahin ho raha ki Ani ne sab kuch itna clearly bol diya aaj.....lol everyone's waiting for the other shoe to dropsmiley36

But I'm still getting a feeling that Jhanak so upfront telling Ani they aren't possible since Kismat/God doesn't want it makes it seem like Leena will reverse that presumption for a bit somehow smiley36.....upar se aaj Ani bechara roya bhi kitna ki usko itni sazaa kyun mil rahi hai....lol toh shayad thode time ke liye kuch taras khaa le Leena ispesmiley36

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Posted: 11 months ago

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Aisa "goldenboy" hone se achha ki black sheep ho jaao family kasmiley36.....as you said, he is just someone they want to control as per their whims even as they constantly keep insulting him....usko kuch izzat toh dete nahin but expect him to fulfill all their orders *rolls eyes*

And notice how they are no longer claiming ki Ani toh Arshi se pyar karta hai toh usko nahin chhod sakta blah blah....now all their statements are about trying to pressurize him ki Arshi is your wife toh uske saath raho....or claiming that Arshi loves him...lol is sab mein kahin bhi none of them talk about who Ani loves or what makes him happy...it's always just about mix and match of orders ki Arshi pe focused raho, we don't care about anything else.

Ani ne yeh "main adjust nahin kar paaya" line bolke bigger masterstroke khela hai than simply saying "I don't love Arshi"....lol cuz love ke baare mein bolta toh they may have pressurized him ki pehle bhi pyar karte the toh phir se kar loge....but he is clear cut making it an adjustment thing that he is incapable of living with Arshi nowsmiley36

Bipasha toh shuru se hi salty ex vibes deti hai....lol someone should call her out in the story ki Ani ki love life se itni obsessed kyun hai yeh so called "bhabhi" of his? smiley36

Bold : see ? This is what I wanted to say last night. Ki jo yeh sab bol raha hai ki adjust nahi kar paya , tried to move on , tum sudhri nahi .... this is all just his way to make it clear ki ab kuch nahi ho sakta. yeh line baar baar isliye bol raha hai ki dekh lo "maine mauka diya is rishte ko" so that ab koi yeh na bol de ki try toh Karo ek baar smiley37 .....he just wanted to make it clear ki HO GAYA TRY NOW LET ME LIVE THE WAY I WANT TO.

Agar isne yeh bola ki I don't love her I love jhanak ... toh gharwale yahi toh bolengay ki adjust karlo har koi karta hai shadi main. Just live like token husband wife. ......toh seedha yahi bol diya ki adjust hi nahi ho payasmiley37. Iske aage toh kya bolengay gharwale . He used "adjust" word in the best way possible smiley16

Lol Bipasha ka toh Sapna tha na tanuja ki bahu ban na . She told her in one of the episode Kash aap meri SaaS hoti smiley37smiley37. No wonder she's so jealous of jhanak.

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Posted: 11 months ago

Originally posted by: sanfan

Memory loss is so passรฉ and Kektaishโ€ฆ ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ I hope after the creativity shown in the tracks so far ( despite stupidity too) Leena wonโ€™t resort to the ML ๐Ÿ˜‚

Bold: you know I was just about to web search this word .....than realised what the hell it is .smiley37smiley37

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Posted: 11 months ago

Originally posted by: sanfan

This is an interesting perspective and as a person who has keenly observed Aniโ€™s character traitsโ€ฆ. .i feel compelled to respond to this post.

Before responding to your specific points, I wish to detour a bit; so please bear with meโ€ฆ

When a relationship breaks down, itโ€™s said that only the two involved can actually say what went wrongโ€ฆ but here we are privy to whatโ€™s happening so we can pass judgment or be fence sitters etc That said, as viewers we may have different ways in which they we see thisโ€ฆ

Broadly, the theme being explored in this context by Leena appears to be incompatibility..This has been clear in the narrative for a long time but since Leena has less manoeuvrability to do this within the itv structure she has thrown the curveball of โ€œseparationโ€ when there hasnโ€™t even been a real wedding between Arshi and Ani but take this as an euphemism and proceed ahead. It is a recognition of the fact that irrespective of whatever you call the relationship, the fact they were committed to each other in the past and are staled to move onโ€ฆ so what do they do? How do they reconcile the past especially since there is a new budding relationship at stake?

Generally, two people with extremely different temperaments , vastly different disposition often make a go of relationships but usually one trait that helps these relationships along the way is general level of tolerance for differences in the other. I donโ€™t see that in the Ani Arshi relationship. Itโ€™s never necessary for two individuals in a relationship to agree on every aspect.. but usually in a healthy relationship, the partner makes his/her displeasure known and the partners together negotiate the tricky situation. Either one accepts the otherโ€™s perspective or they both agree to disagree and negotiate the tough time. Failing both, differences continue to persist and deepens.

Aniโ€™s sensitivity towards certain matters was a known thread in this narrative. Right from the first of the Kashmir episodes, Aniโ€™s empathy for the underdog was evident and while he may not have initiated the rebellion of sorts by Jhanak ( orchestrated by Arshi) but he went with the spirit and later the events spiralled out of control.

the decisions he took at that point, he was acting on instinct and his sense of righteousness; to have a partner with whom he could have bounced off would have been great but situationally the chance was missedโ€ฆ from then on he was basically playing catch up or to put it bluntly was looking to balance matters.In fact, he was strongly of the opinion that Arshi would support him even if no one understood him. That mirage shattered soon enough ( probably around the time Jhanak tries to go back to Kashmir ( with Tejas the first time) and from then onโ€ฆ. he kept finding ways in which he could just do things for Jhanak trying to keep it from Arshi so that there is peace. In this narrative, Aniโ€™s attempts to convince Arshi were there and Arshi appeared to have bought it too at certain points but the relentless pressure from her mom played havoc in their relationship and her own self doubt made it futile at other times. They never showed the two sitting down and discussing the matter of Jhanak except as a way to obfuscate on Aniโ€™s end and threatening on Arshiโ€™s end. By this I mean, Ani wasnโ€™t entirely honest with Arshi and Arshi was refusing to treat this as an issue close to Aniโ€™s heart. Thus they never tried to find a solution that keeps both parties happy.. Aniโ€™s trait of finding path of least resistance also played a part in thisโ€ฆThe battle of ends vs means while facing a battalion who refused to do even the bare minimum in terms of humanity. On the other hand, Arshi treated this as an ego battle largely and she was shown confused, overbearing, threatening in turnsโ€ฆ Who bears more responsibility is something we can have different perspectives on and this is akin to a lot of he said she said etc. Viewers at this stage can take sides on who precipitated the downfall in the relationship etc but the deathknell for the relationship had begun.

At Aniโ€™s end, the more he tried to keep things quietโ€ฆthe more it got messier and it perhaps didnโ€™t help that Ani was forming a deep association with Jhanak as this happened. His intention to help Jhanak was also getting enmeshed with his heartโ€™s desire deeper and deeper. There is a dialogue between Ani and Jhanak during the Rahul fiasco where Jhanak asks him duniya main kitne log takleef main toh kya sabki madad karenge? Ani simply responds โ€œ Unme se koi Jhanak nahinโ€ Yet, in all this saga, Ani kept trying to reconcile with Arshi too whether by choice or by compulsion.

Coming to Arshi, โ€ฆ The narrative presents to us( me) an Arshi who is like any other person, who is quite proud of her accomplishments, gentle to begin with but clearly with a sense of superiority. Jhanak was a project for her fleetingly. When she took the mantle to help Jhanak, it was largely pity that motivated her.. well nothing wrong in thatโ€ฆ a lot of people respond to people in need out of that but such empathy is generally skin deep. Arshi deeply misunderstood Aniโ€™s sense of empathy. Ani never responded to Jhanak out of pity. It was with a deep sense of empathy for her circumstances. It was in this crucial phase where the two partners were deeply divided.
From then on, Arshi started calling the shots on how this help for Jhanak must be directed without realising that for Ani the association was personal. Ani should take responsibility for not conveying his emotions to Arshi honestly and maybe they would have either parted amicably then or fought and resolvedโ€ฆ it one way or the other. Aniโ€™s trait of keeping things bottled up definitely led to the crisis but it wasnโ€™t done with the intention to deceive Arshi to begin with. The deception began much later from Ani but by then Arshi was playing a game of her own. thereโ€™s a dialogue from Arshi at some stage where she is questioning Ani with a knowing look but acting as if the answer doesnโ€™t bother her. The stakes had got bigger for her and her ego couldnโ€™t settle for losing to a lowly person. These two just werenโ€™t honest to each other in different ways.
Apportioning of blame is an easy matterโ€ฆ itโ€™s the introspection that is difficult. Itโ€™s in this place that Leena I think tries to balance the perspectives. Thereโ€™s a sense of fait accompli in the Ani Arshi relationship where both do not make a genuine attempt to resolve cos perhaps they both donโ€™t want it enough or o want it only oneโ€™s own terms. The narrative is clear and I think we must make this distinction that while Ani may owe Arshi something due to his dalliance with Jhanak and keeping Arshi in the dark, the narrative also treats Ani as an individual in a relationshipโ€ฆ who has the freedom to make decisions that may or may not be acceptable to the other partner. Ani doesnโ€™t lose autonomy in that and this where the point of incompatibility comes into play.

Obviously this is a fictional story so, there wil be an attempt to shine light on one perspective more than the other but at a broader level, I am reading this simply as an incompatible partnership; the Arshi presented to me was one who felt Ani had no autonomy and things must proceed as per her or her motherโ€™s wish. Yes, there were points where she felt Aniโ€™s betrayal as a slight or pain ( I couldnโ€™t tell) As viewers, we can react to either or both emotions. Personally, I can say, Arshiโ€™s sense of betrayal could have been a powerful tale but only if Arshi did something with that other than threatening Ani.

now coming to your specific point on his rudeness with Arshiโ€ฆ the way I see itโ€ฆ Aniโ€™s love for Jhanak asideโ€ฆ he is expressing that he did not find Arshi by his side in his biggest battle. He may not have chosen the best words to articulate that He may have expectations of her just as Arshi had of him. Ofc he is not completely honest in his perspective about how that came about but can we say that he alone is to blame for the downfall of this relationship? Hypothetically, if Arshi had supported his decision to support Jhanak ( even if it wasnโ€™t whole hearted), Ani may have still fallen in love with Jhanakโ€ฆ. Personally for me, then.. it would have been easier to lay the blame solely at his doorโ€ฆ but here the narrative is telling me they both werenโ€™t compatibleโ€ฆ they did not make attempt to resuscitate the relationship. Ani has a bigger cross to bear ( due to his traits) and this narrative will make him bear it but Arshi too didnโ€™t invest enough in the relationship to resolve the differences.

Now coming to your charge of Ani making Arshi a cold person, the narrative hasnโ€™t given me sufficient clues to say that.. Here, no one was expecting Arshi to be warm to Jhanakโ€ฆ in any relationship of this kind, three is a crowd so Arshi being nice to Jhanak wasnโ€™t part of the deal but humane definitely wasโ€ฆ you decide your level of humanityโ€ฆ that has nothing to do with anyone (Ani and his actions for Jhanak) . Aniโ€™s expectation from Arshi and others was only humanity and they all fell short of it. Ani wasnโ€™t bothered by the reaction of others but yes that of Arshi would have unsettled him. I am not saying that has anything to do with him falling in love with Jhanakโ€ฆ I repeat he did not fall in love with Jhanak due to Arshiโ€™s behaviourโ€ฆ thatโ€™s his own doing and nowhere in the narrative is that connectedโ€ฆwhich is again the beauty of the narrative so far. What Ani owes to Arshi is a heartfelt apology for his emotional infidelity towards Arshi ( physical yes but he was unaware ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚) and which is why I say he has a bigger cross to bear than anyone else and this will surely bear out in the narrativeโ€ฆ also the place where Jhanakโ€™s love for Ani will be most visibleโ€ฆ Arshi taking this insult to a different level ( if Arshi remains relevant in the tale) will be a matter for the lovebirds to negotiate.Ani is not afraid to be accountable for his mistakes and that is a strong ML in my eyesโ€ฆ As for the characterisation of FLโ€ฆ I understand the gymnastics the writers are having to deal with ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ so letโ€™s see how it. I do think the arc of Jhanak will also grow substantially given the love and care the writer has shown for Ani in building up his arcโ€ฆ how much of it will meet audience expectations I canโ€™t sayโ€ฆ


Sorry for the long post.. wasnโ€™t my intention to make this long detour ๐Ÿ˜‚ but I have a tendency to digress ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

Please feel free to pen your thoughts, I have tagged some hereโ€ฆ if I miss others donโ€™t hesitate to air your thoughtsโ€ฆ

You've summarized it all beautifully, sanfansmiley32

I would say that Ani's understanding of relationships was also more shallow before he started to experience what he did for Jhanak....yes it started with his basic characteristic of sympathy for the underdog, the unfortunate but very quickly it grew into an awareness way beyond that....from the get go. He just wasn't consciously aware of it....consciously he still considered himself loyal to Arshi and that is why continued to state the same for so long even as he kept going above and beyond for Jhanak....you have very well explained the reason for why he initially started hiding things from his family/Arshi because of their ugly reactions to Jhanak....but later on ofcourse it grew into something else in terms of him feeling this all encompassing possessiveness and haq for Jhanak that went way beyond that of a good samaritan. That is mainly because the Kashmir shaadi was always the backdrop for everything despite his initial intent being to just help and protect her. But the haq was baked in since the day of that shaadi and it could never be denied despite both of them denying the validity of the shaadi.

Arshi was seeing the writing on the wall all along but continued to delude herself for the sake of her own ego....you pointed out a very valid thing that Arshi's reactions to learning of Ani's lies was never shown as that of someone feeling betrayed in love in so much as the reaction of a woman feeling like her ego was slighted that Ani is showing an affinity for someone she considers too lowly in her comparison....that is what always bothered Arshi more than anything that Ani is showing so much care, obsession for a LOWLY Jhanak....and that is why it has been so easy for Arshi to not even given basic humanity to Ani as he was dying....because her ego has always been bigger than everything else for her.

I'm not keeping my hopes up but it would be nice if they showed Ani reflecting on the fact that he's never even felt 1% of what he feels for Jhanak for Arshi in all these years of knowing her.....he is literally going mad even at the thought of Jhanak leaving him while Arshi has walked out on him many times and he was never torn up like this.....even when she walked off the day she learnt of Runak ki Kashmir shaadi, Ani was never in the state he is shown in whenever Jhanak leaves. To sum it up in a simple line....whenever Arshi says she wants to leave, he's like you can leave if you want to....many times he offers her that option even without her asking....lol...but in Jhanak's case, he is so anxious at the thought of her leaving him that he literally PLEADS desperately with her to not leave him.

Ani's fault is mainly that he couldn't distinguish truth from mirage for a long time....Arshi has always been a mirage in his life that simply existed for so long out of habit...it is easy to hide behind a mirage...but Jhanak is his truth that moves him on a visceral level and that is why it is inescapable.

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