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I have a doubt ;

Why did Kans kill Devaki's seven children when he knew that only the 8th child will become the bane of his existence? He could've raised those seven children , brainwashed them into being his trusted solders and could've made them fight against lord Krishna , Lord Krishna gave Gita gyan to Arjun to fight his own for upholding dharma , would he have done the same? (He would have , plus this could've added a layer to his Gita teachings where he speaks from.his personal experiences as well)......this has been going on in my head for a long time now.....

Sometimes i think of twisted stuff like this whem I'm bored

To my knowledge, the first six sons of Mata Devaki were the grandsons of the Asura Hiranyakashipu, the sons of Kalanemi. It is said that they rejected his affection for Tapasya to Brahma, and so were cursed by their grandfather:

ShaDgarbhANAM varaM datvA svayaMbhUstridivaM gataH |

tato hiraNyakashipuH saroSho vAkyamabravIt ||2-2-20- Vishnu Parva, Harivamsa

After granting the boon to ShaDgarbhA, the self-born brahmA returned to his heavenly abode. Then hiraNyakashipu angrily spoke these words:

mAmutsR^ijya varo yasmAdvR^ito vaH padmasaMbhavAt |

tasmAdvastyAjitaH snehaH shatrubhUtAMstyajAmyaham ||2-2-21

Abandoning me, you have received boons from brahmA. Hence you have rejected my affection. I am rejecting you, who have become my enemies.

ShaDgarbhA iti yo.ayaM vaH shabdaH pitrAbhivardhitaH |

sa eva vo garbhagatAnpitA sarvAnvadhiShyati ||2-2-22

The same father who called you ShaDgarbhA and brought you up, will kill all of you when you are conceived.

ShaDeva devakIgarbhAH shaDgarbhA vai mahAsurAH |

bhaviShyatha tataH kaMso garbhasthAnvo vadhiShyati ||2-2-23

All six of you, great asura-s ShaDgarbhA will become devakI's conceptions. Then kaMsa, (incarnation of your father kAlanemi) will kill you at conception.

As Kamsa is Kalanemi, and the curse was so, Kamsa had to kill all six. The seventh of course, is Balarama Dau, who was taken from Mata Devaki's womb and transferred to Mata Rohini's.

This is the first time I'm hearing of this , thank you so.much

Is Kalki story shown in movie’Kalki 2898 AD’ real or taken from some novel or Indian Epic?

Are Mahabharata characters like Ashwatthama, Karna, Parshuram, Kripacharya, etc still alive in today’s era?

Originally posted by: Swetha-Sai

Is Kalki story shown in movie’Kalki 2898 AD’ real or taken from some novel or Indian Epic?

Are Mahabharata characters like Ashwatthama, Karna, Parshuram, Kripacharya, etc still alive in today’s era?

I don't think it's real , it can't be real cause the movie is set towards the end of Kaliyug in the future when Kalki is said to be born to eradicate evil....the movie is purely fictional and i don't think it's derived from any epics

@Bold; That depends on wether people's belief wether Mahabarat was real and not fictional....so far there has been no concrete proof that epics like Ramayan and MB happened and people tend to question the authenticity of the existing prrofs that these happened for real so i guess that the answer would vary from person to person who beleive and does not beleive in these epics....i for one believe that these epics really happened so yeah i beleive they are still alive

Originally posted by: Swetha-Sai

Is Kalki story shown in movie’Kalki 2898 AD’ real or taken from some novel or Indian Epic?

Are Mahabharata characters like Ashwatthama, Karna, Parshuram, Kripacharya, etc still alive in today’s era?

In kalki puran also everything is not mentioned so movie is fictional only

As for the second question as I believe Ramayan Mahabharat really happened and I also believe the authenticity of our puranas so yes I think they're alive in kaliyug as well

Originally posted by: Swetha-Sai

Is Kalki story shown in movie’Kalki 2898 AD’ real or taken from some novel or Indian Epic?

Are Mahabharata characters like Ashwatthama, Karna, Parshuram, Kripacharya, etc still alive in today’s era?

It's a fictional take. It is written in Shastras, that Bhagwan Kalki would be born to a Brahmin couple residing in Sambhala village. In the movie

*KALKI MOVIE SPOILERS*

Deepika conceives due to some lab experiment.

Hi, i have a doubt. Its said that Vishnu has 10 avatars with Kalki being his last avatar.

Parashuram is one of Vishnu's avatar but he also meets Rama who is another avatar of Vishnu when Rama breaks the bow during the Swayamvar.

Also some says that Krishna and Balrama (Krishna's brother) are also Vishnu's avatar.

So how is it possible to have two avatars of Vishnu at the same time?

Originally posted by: VishaD.

Hi, i have a doubt. Its said that Vishnu has 10 avatars with Kalki being his last avatar.

Parashuram is one of Vishnu's avatar but he also meets Rama who is another avatar of Vishnu when Rama breaks the bow during the Swayamvar.

Also some says that Krishna and Balrama (Krishna's brother) are also Vishnu's avatar.

So how is it possible to have two avatars of Vishnu at the same time?

Heya! In my opinion, I interpret the 'avatar-ship' as a baton in a relay race. So, when Parashurama meets Rama, he simply transfers the primary baton to Rama, by being defeated theatrically by the latter (I've read interpretations that the transfer happened in that moment, after Seeta-swayamvara because Rama was finally reunited with his 'Lakshmi').

When he meets Krishna and Balarama he is very much human (and probably a successor of the actual Parashurama, a hereditary institution kind-of). All he offers the brothers is some advice regarding how they can save themselves from Jarasandha and Srigala Vasudeva, the local king of Karavira, by hiding in the natural fortress of the Gomanta range.

In my imagination, I feel like the 'avatar-ship' returned to Parashurama after Rama's passing, who guarded it within himself until Krishna came along.

As for Krishna-Balarama being joint avatars, the part-incarnation theory is supported in most major scriptures. In fact, even in Ramayana, all 4 brothers are acknowledged as part-incarnations of Vishnu (with Rama having a little more avatar-ness by percentage).

Originally posted by: VishaD.

Hi, i have a doubt. Its said that Vishnu has 10 avatars with Kalki being his last avatar.

Parashuram is one of Vishnu's avatar but he also meets Rama who is another avatar of Vishnu when Rama breaks the bow during the Swayamvar.

Also some says that Krishna and Balrama (Krishna's brother) are also Vishnu's avatar.

So how is it possible to have two avatars of Vishnu at the same time?

Hi! The Avatars of Vishnu are considered as his physical manifestations to protect dharma whenever there arises a need to restore/protect it. Obviously, Vishnu is the limitless Brahman who is taking on any number of physical manifestations depending on the purpose.

As Parasurama, Vishnu manifested to kill evil kings ruling the earth but it is not a total manifestation of the divine. Rama and Parasurama come face to face as Rama is also another physical manifestation of Vishnu. There is no limit to the number of physical manifestations the divine Vishnu(the formless) can take. When Parasurama meets Rama after the swayamvara, he understands that Rama is Vishnu himself and bows down to him and leaves for penance.

Krishna is a poorna avatara(complete manifestation) of Vishnu in physical form. Balarama is the manifestation of Adisesha(the thousand hooded serpent who makes the bed of Vishnu in Vaikuntha). In Rama avatar, Lakshmana was Adisesha and in Krishna Avatar Balarama is Adisesha.

It is said that Parasurama was granted immortality by his Guru Sri Dattatreya and his father Jamadagni. So, Parasurama was alive even during Krishna avatar.. he was Karna's guru who cursed him that his knowledge would be futile when he really needs it. He is still alive and is one of the seven chiranjeevas.

Hope this helps!