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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: szsiddiqa

Arshi: Tumne bharosa toda hai, dubara bharosa karne waqt to lage ga na

Ani: Aisa kiya kya hai mai ne

Ani hum sab jante hai, pre-birthday kaise celebrate kya tha, Kashmir mein kyq huwa tha. Tumhari nazarein kise follow jkarti hai humein sab pata hai.

On a serious note, we may all want Runak, we may all dislike/hate Ani but by def that's classic gas lighting.

Here me out. From Arshi POV.

I am happily engaged, ready to go for pre-wedding honeymoon with fam blessings (yeh kya hota hai), ie we are completely committed! Now tmy to-be-husband (TBH) meets a young very attractive girl, a good dancer from my fam and sees the signs of pull in my TBH. I notice when he is extra friendly after the dance competition in Kashmir, where J and i win (but after a face-off I do win). I help her to get to the stage but she is actually my competitor and my fiancรฉ is showing extra interest in her. She is me, but maybe even better than me. Both my career and personal life is at risk.

I thought what happened in Kashmir stays in Kashmir, but he brings her to Kolkata and my mother is very upset abt J being a bad girl and she is going to ruin our lives. How am I to react?

Many times I feel Ani is not mine anymore and when I try to talk to him, he sweet talks me. My gut feels that even though he says all right things his eyes speak a different language. I want to break off this engagement but most of my fam and my mom are asking me to continue and fight for my love and not allow J to win. Ani himself is not sure. Maybe J is just a distraction and as Ani said he will always come back to me. I am his wife-to-be, it is my duty to protect him from distractions. I asked J directly if she loves Ani and if Ani loves her, but her response confused me more, I couldn't understand her Himalaya parvat connection.

Yes, sometimes I feel happy when J is put on the spot, (she agreed to reversal rasam, remarrying with uncle groom). I wasn't part of the groom swap but mom says Tejas will be good for J. Why are Ani-J upset about it? Very confusing.

J shows that she is happy that i am getting married and Ani has never broken our engagement. He is willingly participating in all the ceremonies. I feel I being cheated but every proof I see I am being talked out of it. His fam and my mother pulls me back into it. sab kahte hai woh ladki chali jaye bas, aur sab theek ho jayega. I am so frustrated.

But now I am injured and even tho he is attentive to me, it doesn't feel right. I give him a way out, but he is ready for SR.

Either Jhanak directly tried to hurt/injured me or not, but Ani's attention to J is why mother might have tried to hurt J ( I know my mother). Root cause is Ani!

Everything was perfect until Kashmir, but Ani is not the same but he asks Aisa kiya kya maine?

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My POV:

Most people find Arshi dumb etc., but I find her caught in the storm called Runak and does not know how to react. I find her lost, with a mother like narcissist Shrishti who wouldn't. I find her frustrated and angry. Her hurt is reasonable where she wants to be married to the man who says he loves her (mom wants me to win, BH wants me as Lakshmi). But still not convinced.... Classic case of some one who is gaslit.

Yes , from her point of view she is right ...

Like here ...who is the third person its unfortunately our Jhanak.Before her entry to Anirudh and Arshi life they were happy, going to get married .Arshi was also shown good. She turning bad is later for the story to progress ..else its their story , their life .And the third angle who comes into picture is always a sweet natured one making the other villian. That is why even though we hate Arshi she cant be ignored in their life. That is why the writer did not make the character vanish till now. She is relevant in their life until they stand for their love or for the marriage they did once.

She is a human being who got trapped between these two. Same like how they were forced to get married . The marriage was never accepted by them as they felt it has cheating Arshi. They both are good hearted human being who kept their promise till now . Sometimes I feel Arshi cant be blamed . They hide their marriage from her ,and after exposing also they didnt take proper stand ....the feeling Anirudh had as husband ,Jhanak somewhere feeling the need of acceptance of being his wife and in between somewhere they fell in love. They didnt speak openly neither did they address Arshi ..





Just copy pasted this part , as you werent tagged in this discussion...my thoughts about Arshi ...

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: Edkv74

Oho Maya! You misread his feelings! He wanted to share the room with Jhanak( guest) only ! But at that time she was so into her shaadi with Avinash , she didnโ€™t give any bhaav to him! So h was feeling upset ๐Ÿฅน๐Ÿ™„

I didnt misread yaar , just trying to tell he doesnt need Arshi in his room....๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜ฌ๐Ÿคญ

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Posted: 1 years ago

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well i agree and disagree.

Arshi is very much a victim of runak. They deceived her, yes. They have lied to her countless times. She was the fiance and deserved proper respect as one. If you fell for another one, you should confess to your partner rather than stringing them along with a thin strand of a hope that everything is okay! Runak and esp Ani is and will be wrong for that always!

But does that mean Arshi is innocent? Even serial k*llers have justified reasons in their mind but that doesnโ€™t make their actions right. That way even Ani n Jhanak have their justifications, but are they right to deceive Charshi?

She was involved in forcibly marrying Jhanak to a man older than her just to get rid of her. She was involved in Tejas marryinh her by duping her twice. Hadnt she seen Tejas was the reason J ran to Kolkata? Is she a 5yo kid? She knows but chooses to ignore otherโ€™s pain if it doesnโ€™t benefit her. She was very much mute and smiling when the family was saying Aditya would use n throw J. Is she that innocent to not understand what that means as a woman?

Charshi is not innocent and cant be whitewashed because in her mind she has justifications. Because everyone has the same scenario. Shrishti is doing what she thinks is right. Two wrongs donโ€™t make a right.

Agree, Its a fact that ANI was attracted by Jhanak innocence, purity in kashmir , he wanted to spend time with her. But when he got jhanak to kolkata he was expecting Arshi to take responsibility of jhanak , which she did not do. From there ANI started to fall out from Arshi. ANI is always attracted towards good soul people, which he found in jhanak. Then, after that with every incident, it became mor worse, she slapped jhanak , then she was ok if jhanak married Tejas, the revesal rasam. If she would have supported jhanak , ANI would not have fallen completely for jhanak. Since the relation for Runak was husband and wife, it was very obvious to have feelings. But ANI is also equal partner in crime, he definitely owes honesty to Arshi, but she is also equally responsible for it.

On Birthday date night, after observing kiss on his neck, she understood that ANI is not hers, despite no clarity from Runak she understood that now there is no future for ANI and Arshi, still she hold on to the relation just to not get defeated. Since Arshi knew ANI feelings, it was not right for ANI to leave Arshi, if she truly loved ANI, she should have walked from the relation for his happiness. For Arshi ANI is just a trophy, so i won't feel bad for her.

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Posted: 1 years ago

And in all of this - "Where does Arshi's self - help is the best help" feature?

She had realised Ani is some one else's and not hers any more long back - she says it before trying to commit suicide after the pre-wedding announcement party - mujhe pata hai tum jis tarike se use dekhte ho, you are not mine anymore ! So I will take my life and blame it on J!

I would agree to the things you have stated here, if I found Arshi's love for Ani to be true love. Unfortunately it is not ! Her one true love is her love for her dance and career - she has been conditioned that way by Shrishti - which is not an issue at all, as long as she owns it to be!

There are many relationships specially husband-wife's in Indian societies, where the wife stays on in an abusive marriage or a loveless one, because the wife 'loves' the husband and ignores the downsides ! Or she is too handicapped financially and otherwise to move out!

Same happens with some husbands albeit the number of cases might be lesser

1. I want to continue this relationship because I have invested years in it - coz I think I found some one whom I can keep on leash as a pet ,who would dance to my tunes, like my mom has found in Vinayak. Despite that some one telling me several times, you can call it quits if you like !

2. I want to continue this relationship because Ani is a trophy that I cannot lose to J

3. I happily go and sit in the shaadi mandap twice, while double-guessing my to-be husband and his actions, during each and every ritual - exactly whom am I doing a favour to here? Please remind me again?

4. My husband refuses to remove the ring that some one has gifted him and wears it in the ring finger, goes on a date with her on his bday while I wait through out the night to throw him a surprise bday party - but these are just minor hiccups for me

As a woman, the moment my instinct says, the person in front of me, is emotionally cheating on me, is where I take a stand for myself and call it quits !

As a successful, educated , financially independent woman, even more ! I owe this to myself, to my womanhood, to other women in the society, above everyone else ! If I love and respect myself enough that is !

Instead, I say let me not give a damn for my self-respect, but be influenced by every word, that every other person says to coax or pacify me. Plus let me be spiteful towards the weaker of the two and set her up for the following-

1. When she is gracefully giving up her rights, let me forcefully break her shakha pola and wash off her sindoor

2. Let me keep Ani busy at a party, so that the rest of BH can throw her out and my mom can set her up with Tejas and take her off to Kashmir in a bus

3. Let me announce in front of Ani and let him know that J has agreed to marry groom uncle, when J has not said it yet. And let me goad over how lucky J is for having found groom uncle who is double J's age, who will take her on foreign trips - given a choice, would I marry Uncle Groom?

4.Go to the extreme of taking my life, so that I can blame J for it

IN SHORT - AS YOU SOW, SOW YOU REAP - The more harm you cause to a person out of jealously and insecurity, it will come back to you manifolded!

A lot of what transpired between Ani and J , and the U-turn that their relationship took, was coz Ani initially trusted that if no one , Arshi would understand, when he brought J to Kol- coz at that time the intent was to help J, specially coz Arshi is J's sister and as another woman would understand the extreme sad fate that J has met with , that of losing her mom, under the shocking circumstances.

Neither Ani nor J were in love with eo nor had accepted their fake forced wedding. With each passing day, the kind of zillat J received from the evil clan, together with the guilt of hiding the secret wedding from the evil clan, pushed RuNak closer to eo! Ani could have remained a friend, well wisher and enabler for J, if Arshi and the rest fo BH, let them be ! It's in him , having to rise to several occasions, to try and protect J from all evils that befell J, that brought them closer!

It is kind of a repeat we see today with Guruji Jr and his wife , where the wife insults Guruji Jr in front of his students, for bringing J along ! And while the wife is not unfounded of the insecurities she feels- reacting the way she does, will propel Guruji away from his wife - not sure how long they are married for, but this is not the kind of behaviour that you expect from an understanding life partner - unless Guruji has a strong back history of being a flirt or some one who has had affairs with his female students - him calling J behen, beti , ma proves that he is not such a fellow - but if this is what a wife gives you back - you probably should go in and have a few affairs to justify her bad-mouthing you n your kala (art) !

Absolute disrespect, disregard and disdain towards a married partnership - why are you married to this lover of kala to start with, coz you have no respect for the kala either!

Now suddenly after an accident, I realise my to-be husband was cheating on me. So why was I readily, happily with all smiles, sitting at the mandap, committing to a life-long partnership? How was I being true and fair to myself?

I am sorry, this is my own doing, I have created this pit for myself and in full sense, willfully, walked and fell right into it smiley1

Originally posted by: szsiddiqa

Arshi: Tumne bharosa toda hai, dubara bharosa karne waqt to lage ga na

Ani: Aisa kiya kya hai mai ne

Audience: Ani hum sab jante hai, pre-birthday kaise celebrate kya tha, Kashmir mein kya huwa tha. Tumhari nazarein kise follow karti hai humein sab pata hai.

On a serious note, we may all want Runak, we may all dislike/hate Arshi but by def this is classic gas lighting.

Here me out. From Arshi POV.

I am happily engaged, ready to go for pre-wedding honeymoon with fam blessings, ie we are completely committed! Now my to-be-husband (TBH) meets a young very attractive girl, a good dancer from my fam and sees the signs of pull towards her in my TBH. I notice when he is extra friendly after the dance competition in Kashmir, where J and i win (but after a face-off I do win). I help her to get to the stage but she is actually my competitor and my fiancรฉ is showing extra interest in her. She is me, but maybe even better than me. Both my career and personal life is at risk.

I thought what happened in Kashmir stays in Kashmir, but he brings her to Kolkata and my mother is very upset abt J being a bad girl and she is going to ruin our lives. How am I to react?

Many times I feel Ani is not mine anymore and when I try to talk to him, he sweet talks me. My gut feels that even though he says all right things his eyes speak a different language. I want to break off this engagement but most of my fam and my mom are asking me to continue and fight for my love and not allow J to win. Ani himself is not sure. Maybe J is just a distraction and as Ani said he will always come back to me. I am his wife-to-be, it is my duty to protect him from distractions. I asked J directly if she loves Ani and if Ani loves her, but her response confused me more, I couldn't understand her Himalaya parvat connection.

Yes, sometimes I feel happy when J is put on the spot, (she agreed to reversal rasam, remarrying with uncle groom). I wasn't part of the groom swap but mom says Tejas will be good for J. Why are Ani-J upset about it? Very confusing.

J shows that she is happy that i am getting married and Ani has never broken our engagement. He is willingly participating in all the ceremonies. I feel I being cheated but every proof I see I am being talked out of it. His fam and my mother pulls me back into it. sab kahte hai woh ladki chali jaye bas, aur sab theek ho jayega. I am so frustrated.

But now I am injured and even tho he is attentive to me, it doesn't feel right. I give him a way out, but he is ready for SR.

Either Jhanak directly tried to hurt/injure me or not, but Ani's attention to J is why mother might have tried to hurt J ( I know my mother). Root cause is Ani!

Everything was perfect until Kashmir, but Ani is not the same but he asks Aisa kiya kya maine?

---

My POV:

Most people find Arshi dumb etc., but I find her caught in the storm called Runak and does not know how to react. I find her lost, with a mother like narcissist Shrishti who wouldn't. I find her frustrated and angry. Her hurt is reasonable where she wants to be married to the man who says he loves her (mom wants me to win, BH wants me as Lakshmi). But still not convinced.... Classic case of some one who is gaslit.

Edited by rysohini - 1 years ago
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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: MayaFruitbae

I didnt misread yaar , just trying to tell he doesnt need Arshi in his room....๐Ÿ˜œ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜ฌ๐Ÿคญ

well, Arshi is not a guest but still in guest room๐Ÿ˜ Ani needs his โ€˜guestโ€™ in his room and his โ€˜apnaโ€™ in his guest room.. baat khatam๐Ÿ˜œ


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Originally posted by: szsiddiqa

I am curious about Shrishti's character. I simply cannot understand her confidence in mis-representing facts. She isn't celebrating that baal-baal buch gayi, due to J, but she is ready to re-open the case. She believes Shubho will save her and prove that the video was altered. But she knows that video is true, so how can anyone prove that it was altered!

When she let go of J's hand on the reversal dubki scene, only J could have called her out, but she ignored it, since she was going thru her own emotional turmoil. J also did not file case in uncle groom/Tejas case either. J does not know with certainty regarding the holi adulterated drinks (Ani still needs to check the CCTV).

I understand she is pure evil, but evil people are very very intelligent. This one is on-and-off-intelligent. She is good at analyzing people and their actions and manipulating them, but not enough to think thru her plans to completion. Iska samjh hi nahi aata.

When J-Ani first "accident" meeting in Kashmir, the way Shrishti insulted, Ani was taken aback from J's reaction. The girl who was happy-go-taking-a-random-stranger to task regarding the accident, became docile and sad when Shrishti started belittling her. Ever since, Ani is up in arms with Shrishti (except in Arshi's ashrirwad rasam where even Shrishti was surprised that he was agreeing with her).

Her latest convo with Vinayak was very intriguing. Like a chameleon she kept changing throughout their conversation. She was acatually confronting him.

She is one of the main catalyst along with Tejas, Arshi, AK and Rahul.

So many good analyzers in the forum. Please give your POV. (I have tagged a few but all are welcome.)

Sabahath ,

Nice writing about Shristi and Jhanak.

One is over confident stupid lady , with advantage of having no heart or emotions.Only ego and hatred drives her. The hatred she has for Urvashi she is carrying forward as some ancestral asset against Jhanak. Vinayak knows in and out about her . But how confident she was in defending herself !!!

Jhanak on the other hand didnt want to lose her only relative , she longs for acceptance from them. The small things which Shristi or Arshi does for her makes her so happy.

Edited by MayaFruitbae - 1 years ago
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https://x.com/ShaantBandi/status/1815632670401138955

Is the above the original shot or fanโ€™s edit??

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Posted: 1 years ago

I would believe it's a fan edit, by the emojis at the end of the post ! Plus the makers would not give this away, for Ani, atm !

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Originally posted by: rysohini

And in all of this - "Where does Arshi's self - help is the best help" feature?

She had realised Ani is some one else's and not hers any more long back - she says it before trying to commit suicide after the pre-wedding announcement party - mujhe pata hai tum jis tarike se use dekhte ho, you are not mine anymore ! So I will take my life and blame it on J!

I would agree to the things you have stated here, if I found Arshi's love for Ani to be true love. Unfortunately it is not ! Her one true love is her love for her dance and career - she has been conditioned that way by Shrishti - which is not an issue at all, as long as she owns it to be!

There are many relationships specially husband-wife's in Indian societies, where the wife stays on in an abusive marriage or a loveless one, because the wife 'loves' the husband and ignores the downsides ! Or she is too handicapped financially and otherwise to move out!

Same happens with some husbands albeit the number of cases might be lesser

1. I want to continue this relationship because I have invested years in it - coz I think I found some one whom I can keep on leash as a pet ,who would dance to my tunes, like my mom has found in Vinayak. Despite that some one telling me several times, you can call it quits if you like !

2. I want to continue this relationship because Ani is a trophy that I cannot lose to J

3. I happily go and sit in the shaadi mandap twice, while double-guessing my to-be husband and his actions, during each and every ritual - exactly whom am I doing a favour to here? Please remind me again?

4. My husband refuses to remove the ring that some one has gifted him and wears it in the ring finger, goes on a date with her on his bday while I wait through out the night to throw him a surprise bday party - but these are just minor hiccups for me

As a woman, the moment my instinct says, the person in front of me, is emotionally cheating on me, is where I take a stand for myself and call it quits !

As a successful, educated , financially independent woman, even more ! I owe this to myself, to my womanhood, to other women in the society, above everyone else ! If I love and respect myself enough that is !

Instead, I say let me not give a damn for my self-respect, but be influenced by every word, that every other person says to coax or pacify me. Plus let me be spiteful towards the weaker of the two and set her up for the following-

1. When she is gracefully giving up her rights, let me forcefully break her shakha pola and wash off her sindoor

2. Let me keep Ani busy at a party, so that the rest of BH can throw her out and my mom can set her up with Tejas and take her off to Kashmir in a bus

3. Let me announce in front of Ani and let him know that J has agreed to marry groom uncle, when J has not said it yet. And let me goad over how lucky J is for having found groom uncle who is double J's age, who will take her on foreign trips - given a choice, would I marry Uncle Groom?

4.Go to the extreme of taking my life, so that I can blame J for it

IN SHORT - AS YOU SOW, SOW YOU REAP - The more harm you cause to a person out of jealously and insecurity, it will come back to you manifolded!

A lot of what transpired between Ani and J , and the U-turn that their relationship took, was coz Ani initially trusted that if no one , Arshi would understand, when he brought J to Kol- coz at that time the intent was to help J, specially coz Arshi is J's sister and as another woman would understand the extreme sad fate that J has met with , that of losing her mom, under the shocking circumstances.

Neither Ani nor J were in love with eo nor had accepted their fake forced wedding. With each passing day, the kind of zillat J received from the evil clan, together with the guilt of hiding the secret wedding from the evil clan, pushed RuNak closer to eo! Ani could have remained a friend, well wisher and enabler for J, if Arshi and the rest fo BH, let them be ! It's in him , having to rise to several occasions, to try and protect J from all evils that befell J, that brought them closer!

It is kind of a repeat we see today with Guruji Jr and his wife , where the wife insults Guruji Jr in front of his students, for bringing J along ! And while the wife is not unfounded of the insecurities she feels- reacting the way she does, will propel Guruji away from his wife - not sure how long they are married for, but this is not the kind of behaviour that you expect from an understanding life partner - unless Guruji has a strong back history of being a flirt or some one who has had affairs with his female students - him calling J behen, beti , ma proves that he is not such a fellow - but if this is what a wife gives you back - you probably should go in and have a few affairs to justify her bad-mouthing you n your kala (art) !

Absolute disrespect, disregard and disdain towards a married partnership - why are you married to this lover of kala to start with, coz you have no respect for the kala either!

Now suddenly after an accident, I realise my to-be husband was cheating on me. So why was I readily, happily with all smiles, sitting at the mandap, committing to a life-long partnership? How was I being true and fair to myself?

I am sorry, this is my own doing, I have created this pit for myself and in full sense, willfully, walked and fell right into it smiley1

this self help feature comes in handy when the sh*t will hit the roof!!

The thing is depending on the director, Arshi can either achieve higher moral ground or she can stay longer to skewer the two lovebirds ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

Hopkinโ€™s choice eh?


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Posted: 1 years ago

Unfortunately for her and for us BOLD never happens smiley37

Also, I waiting for the day when Vinayak's recessive genes would surpass Shrishti's dominant ones !

Till then, best of luck to us smiley36

Originally posted by: sanfan

this self help feature comes in handy when the sh*t will hit the roof!!

The thing is depending on the director, Arshi can either achieve higher moral ground or she can stay longer to skewer the two lovebirds ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

Hopkinโ€™s choice eh?


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