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Posted: 1 years ago

We always wondered what will make Zaid fall for MJ right will it be deep sympathy when he sees her breakdown or will it be organic- guess it will be organic .

MJ might be pulling strings but if u see she is probably only one who has actually kept his happiness over hers whatever be her motives behind , what started as selfish might slowly turn genuine seeing how he is being pulled from all sides and how he is fighting , whatever it is Zaid is genuine person no malice , besides his empty threats of divorcing her which I think he never would have , as aira or no aira what and who stopped him from doing that ? He knows what divorce would do to MJ , as someone said MJ being married with him with two wives was probably lesser evil than being labelled as twice divorced.

Anyways back to what will lead to Zaid - MJ actually falling which till last week I wasn’t sure but after yesterday’s episode am more sure is they both will see what they have been seeking in resp partners

Zaid will see how this egoistic and self obsessed MJ has been actually one who has been there for him and putting him above her own self

MJ will see how loyal Zaid is with aira and even accepting and supporting her with all her pro and cons , and even trying to correct her when aira goes out of path something none has done for her . Zaid is totally selfless when it comes to aira something MJ craves .

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: unicornhugs

I guess I feel like she was reacting to the goons while things were actively happening. Here there was no imminent danger. I don’t know, it felt off.

No excuses for Asif, he was absolutely terrible to her. When Asif accused Ayra have lacking morals, it made me chuckle because it was so crazy coming from him. Considering all this, why did Ayra want his approval and acceptance before marrying Zaid? If it was for revenge, fine I get it but that means she’s basically sacrificed Zaid. I can’t root for them then. Now that she lives under his roof, things do go according to his rules. Zaid going back to his dad basically means he can’t ever leave again. It was hard enough for him the first time and now he will be blacklisted from basically everywhere. Even if there are other rival companies, they won’t trust a guy who worked briefly for a competitor before returning back to his dad. She can have revenge or Zaid, not both. I can’t even tell if she wants revenge at this point which begs the question, why was it so important for her to have Asif’s acceptance? I feel like she moved in and wants to prove that she can get her way. There’s only so much Zaid can do in this situation that she put him in. He’s trying everything that he can but she resists and contests everything. I feel like she’s put him into an impossible situation and she often resorts to manipulative tactics to control him. Asif used to do the same thing with him before. MJ is also putting on an act and being dishonest but I feel like she’s hurting herself most by doing this. She isn’t really hurting Zaid.


Much needed analysis. 👍

At this point in the story we can only see Zaid Ayra and their tiffs ... Mubashira just stands like an unhappy bystander...


Has Ayra made him so upset that he feels totally cut off from her and a stranger and finds comfort in Mubashira's support?

He will always care for Ayra enough to be there for her, but he did that for MJ too when she was nothing more than a friend to him. I'd rather revisit that first episode and appreciate the chemistry than re-watch this stuck area. 😄 Haaye, what did Ayra do with that hero?He would have been winning contracts one after the other than feel threatened by angry dad, maaldaar beevi and perplexed by changed beevi who doesn't have him as a priority, sadly. He said he will make it right, but she's bulldozing down all the bridges. He's feeling so helpless since he can't order her, can only hope for her to trust him and wait and when that's not happening a sympathetic ear helps...

Funny thing is I didn't even feel MJ's love for Zaid...is she beginning to feel bad when he's down like this...anyway at least they looked a couple when he chose to sit on the same couch as her and she explained to Asif that Zaid was innocent in not knowing Ayra's priorities. Good there's one episode today. Really hoping there's some progress...

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: Winterberry

Aira always chooses herself! She has her own reason legit or unreasonable but every-time Zaid chooses her , she lets him down and pushes him towards MJ.

1. When Zaid asks her to come with him and get married she rejected him leading to Zaid MJ marriage

2. When Zaid left everything for her and was ready to divorce MJ and start afresh with her , she came up with Asif should ask my hand in marriage for Zaid , again leading to solidifying MJ place as his first wife and presence in Zaid life and his house.

3. The whole scene after marriage asking for bedroom , whatever be her reasons she was simply thinking about herself and even Zaid was looking at her as if she is different person. He clearly said he was fighting for her and she was embarrassing him infront of same people .

4.Again now joining rivals! Like which wife does that to her husband ?
Zaid joined as last resort after asif disowned him and was closing all doors for him , she joining rivals cannot be compared with Zaid’s , she didn’t even feel it was necessary to discuss with Zaid for once , it was as if his say had no value. Now she is basically pushing Zaid - MJ to work as team, as two heirs to business and prove themselves and stop Asif verbal lashing .


Basically Zaid has always been there for her and every time he expects / hopes Aira be there for him she pushed Zaid away and puts him in tough situation and he ends up with MJ.

I see one more move from her end which probably impacts Kashmala and Zaid will this time will choose his family over her . Maybe too late by time she realises she has taken him for granted and pushed him . The scene with her bhabhi saying all a man wants at end of day is some love will hit her then , how she never gave Zaid anything neither love not respect.


Good you listed down all the points that must make Zaid depressed. 😄

How proudly he said she's the independent wife he's proud of...and she showed how independent. It's like a slap on his face actually.

Morning she should have discussed this with him and she didn't even pick up his phone...who does that! So irritating to be downright ignored like that.

And then she comes running saying Rayan did this...poor guy is supposed to be super protective and available for the independent woman every time she needs him, when she neglects him at all times she wants to be independent. When is he going to register it that she's just plain selfish...


I want that happening in one moment. I want him to be ok with breaking up due to lack of compatibility🙏 regardless of what Rayaan brings to the story.

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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: arshi1983

I agree.

My 2 cents,

Rayyan unexpectedly bumped into Ayra, looks like he came to meet his sister.The disdain was so evident in that scene,he clearly considers Ayra as his sister’s home wrecker.He pulled a cheap n sleazy move to probe her place in the household but Ayra being the strong woman she is ,stood her ground and threw his past mistakes right back at him. She walked away with confidence, silently winning that round. I didn’t see her visibly shaken at all.

(Strictly my opinion)The Ayra I know would’ve gone all guns blazing at Zaid or Mubashira about Rayyan instead she decided to draw sympathy and sow discord between Mub and Zaid. This move stemmed from her discomfort with Zaid getting close with Mubashira.


Ayra’s is clearly unable to deal with her own internal conflicts within this family dynamic and she’s messing it up big time. How did she even think that this family would agree to this job offer from the rival company—Infact, who would??? She’s been insecure from the day 1 of her marriage. I somehow feel that she impulsively decided to get married to Zaid to avenge her brother’s death but her feelings are coming in between and she’s clearly unable to deal with these conflicting feelings and is steering towards a very morally grey area. There’s a role reversal happening here between Mub and Ayra. Mub gave up her ego or atleast trying to , to save her marriage n Ayra is doing just the opposite.

I agree with everything you are saying but I genuinely & honestly do not feel that she ever had any intention of revenge when she agreed to marry Zaid. Yes, she said she will marry only if his family accepts her but I think that was bcz she just wanted to show that finally they had to accept her. That 5 crore thing to secure her bhabhi's future. I can agree bcz they did suffer & lose financially bcz of Asif. But other than that I don't think she has any intention of revenge.

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Posted: 1 years ago

Ohh yes. Her saying why do you leave me alone in this house. I am scared here. This definitely looked fake. Chalo Rayan's incident happened suddenly, so she might have been shocked. But she didn't think before coming and living in the same house as Asif who she knows to have a very criminal mind. She wasn't scared then? By forcing Asif to accept her, she didn't think he would do anything if not now but atleast in the future. Did she think he is not capable of harming her bhabhi as well? Now she is crying & playing damsell in distress

Well! I think she just loves herself & just consciously or subconsciously manipulates Zaid. He being a puppet just follows & believes her

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Originally posted by: arfanazneen

Are you sure that Zaid doesn't know about MJ's medical condition? I thought he must be aware? If not there should be a dramatic revelation which increases his guilt 100x.

I don't think that Rayan would do anything against MJ. Bcz it means going against his father. He does seem like he cares about his father.


Zaid might be aware she has issues since they have known each other their entire lives. But I doubt he knows how severe it really is. Had Zaid known she has been on strong medication, he would not have been so ruthless towards her.


Yes definitely he needs to go on a guilt trip. Instead of blaming the real culprit (Asif), he chose to point fingers at MJ. She has been wrong in the past but it was not her fault Asif harrassed Ayra and her family. But here, I also blame Ayra who chose to go to a high profile wedding and create a major scene in front of the media...did she really think Asif would let it go? Vadde log vadde egos lol.


Coming to Rayaan...ehehe my thesis is incoming. I love the dude smiley36 Red flags and layered characters sprinkled with good looks and sex appeal are my favourites smiley36


The Jaffar family dynamics are very simple. Mubashira is the older narcissist who needs to be mollycoddled at all times. Rayaan is the younger child who never got his father's attention. If you recall when Jaffar and Rayaan were discussing Kashmala's rishta, MJ's first reaction was "Aapki pehli priority main hoon". And its been made very clear also, by putting Mubashira's preferences before Rayaan's. Ironically, every time Jaffar has been stressed, its Rayaan who has been there for his father.


Also, whatever Rayaan has said about his parents' dynamics...they got a divorce and the mother left without either of the kids. I think it was episode 4 where Rayaan yells that MJ is unstable and Jaffar slaps him...which then leads to him saying "salaam hai aisi maa ko jo divorce ke baad mujhe yahan chodh gayi. saath le jaati na yaar". It shows he has been neglected every time.


Rayaan's been commitment phobic and anti-serious relationships since his childhood. We haven't seen the circumstances of Jaffar's divorce but it must have been messy for this guy to have written off love altogether. He had even said this when Jaffar was pressurising him to marry Kashmala ("it just haunts me, dad"). And tbh, in Rayaan's defence, he has been very clear that he doesn't want to get married. Even post marriage he had said "dad ne kara di toh maine kar li". So it was pretty clear that the guy would continue his playboy ways even after marriage. Him becoming a father soon would not change that either. Kashmala dug her own grave with this.


Rayaan's character has been the rich, bratty, suave playboy with lots of girlfriends. He will woo the girl, have a good time, and then move on. He even told Kashmala in that restaurant scene "bahot ladkiyon ka crush hoon main." If it was Indian TV, there would be more scenes to make it obvious since we don't have any specific guidelines.


Given all this, he is also very class conscious. He has called both Mohib and Ayra "middle class" quite a few times. That's the only reason he agreed to marry Kashmala...agar shaadi karni hi hai toh apne class ki kisi ladki se kar lo.


And image conscious. He presents a decent, well-spoken version of himself to the public. So when Ayra threatened him yesterday, he got frazzled. Idk if Ayra knows about him currently having side-chicks but the fact that Kashmala might find out which would ruin the marriage (between two powerful men's kids) and his perfect image. I am sure it has nothing to do with the past because Kashmala must have known about the women in his life before he started flirting with her.


Now coming to MJ and RJ...Rayaan has stood up for Mubashira more than once. No matter what his relationship has been like with her, no "outsider" can come and screw around on his watch. Case in point, he got pissed at Zaid for running off post the nikah. At the same time, there's definitely resentment and sibling rivalry. If you looked at last week's scene carefully, he wasn't happy to have written off his shares to Mubashira. Because he has been treated as the spare like always.


Hence I feel now when Rayaan makes his move, it might affect Mubashira at some point too. So far it was all about others' MEIN that was affecting his life. Now, he's joined the battlefield.


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Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: unicornhugs

I guess I feel like she was reacting to the goons while things were actively happening. Here there was no imminent danger. I don’t know, it felt off.

No excuses for Asif, he was absolutely terrible to her. When Asif accused Ayra have lacking morals, it made me chuckle because it was so crazy coming from him. Considering all this, why did Ayra want his approval and acceptance before marrying Zaid? If it was for revenge, fine I get it but that means she’s basically sacrificed Zaid. I can’t root for them then. Now that she lives under his roof, things do go according to his rules. Zaid going back to his dad basically means he can’t ever leave again. It was hard enough for him the first time and now he will be blacklisted from basically everywhere. Even if there are other rival companies, they won’t trust a guy who worked briefly for a competitor before returning back to his dad. She can have revenge or Zaid, not both. I can’t even tell if she wants revenge at this point which begs the question, why was it so important for her to have Asif’s acceptance? I feel like she moved in and wants to prove that she can get her way. There’s only so much Zaid can do in this situation that she put him in. He’s trying everything that he can but she resists and contests everything. I feel like she’s put him into an impossible situation and she often resorts to manipulative tactics to control him. Asif used to do the same thing with him before. MJ is also putting on an act and being dishonest but I feel like she’s hurting herself most by doing this. She isn’t really hurting Zaid.


I don’t think Ayra married Zaid for revenge. She’s been amicable and polite with asif throughout, no planning, nothing. Even consoled Zaid she will convince Asif herself about the job. She just wants to get away from being at the mercy of Asif and MJ. So to her, anything is better than that.

She doesn’t want revenge but she’s also NOT going to be another one of Asif’s puppets. He can control his son but Ayra won’t let him control her life. And honestly? Good for her. They all made this mess together but at least she’s not sacrificing her self respect in the process. And asif doesn’t like her independence at all even if Zaid admires it. That means he can’t control her like he can control zaid. He can’t keep her in his office so he can daily humiliate and bully her into feeling inferior. It pisses him off lol. Because his plan didn’t work.

Ayra is not looking for revenge now but maybe her arc might transform into that later on if Asif threatens her enough or provokes her. I can see that as a possibility.


I honestly agree with you about Zaid’s difficult position. Ayra not telling him about the rival company before was unreasonable and he has my sympathies (despite me wanting him to grow a pair). But I do think these challenges are important for the zaid and ayra dynamic and it’s important for MJ’s growth to witness these ups and downs of theirs. Despite whatever happens, zaid is very loyal and affectionate with Ayra and I think MJ craves that unconditional support. Also the way Ayra waits for him and explains herself to him, there’s a longing and desperation there for him to understand her motivation. But right now he can’t. They’ve had downs before so maybe they’ll work it out. That hug and comforting scene was sweet. No matter their issues they do come back together. But for how long, I don’t know. The asif and now Rayyan thing is escalating.

I do also think we all want to see MJ’s reaction to finding out about Rayyan - I have my issues with MJ’s writing and she was totally unbothered when Ayra was telling asif that the goons were harassing her - so for me an important growth for MJ would be her believing Ayra over Rayyan eventually and supporting her genuinely. Without it being calculated or for looking nice in front of Zaid. Wouldn’t that be something ! lol


I feel like both MJ and zaid are hibernating right now and whatever is the end result of this asif ayra showdown going on right now, that’s the catalyst that’ll wake them up. It will definitely be a trigger for their final growth arc. Zaid HAS to come out of his dad’s shadow once n for all - and MJ HAS to be genuinely selfless and think of others and her own self worth.

Posted: 1 years ago

Originally posted by: chicksoup


I feel so too that she didn't fake it. She was reliving that yuck moment just before Zaid came in...sort of it was sinking in...and naturally she ran to him. That was actually a sweet husband - wife moment. Zaid asks her if she is sure...he cannot bash Rayaan without solid proof. Also, Rayyan cannot have intended more than intimidating her actually...just a sort of play thing he did ..he knows she would never reciprocate, unless he thinks of her like Asif does..that she'd entertain him for money ...may be Ayra got some such vibes ...anyway this is such a major twist.

If Ayra is not able to prove Rayyan's threat to her and Zaid waits for proof, she will have to walk out on him. Right now she's over reacting for everything, so poor Zaid won't see the truth... probably MJ will be the first one to know Ayra didn't make it up.


i would love for MJ to truly support Ayra and believe her over her sleazy brother. Especially because I don’t think that scene of theirs was unintentional - MJ saw a pissed off Rayaan leave so it has to mean something eventually.

But it has to be genuine concern and support. Not so she can look good in front of zaid 🤢

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Zaid might be aware she has issues since they have known each other their entire lives. But I doubt he knows how severe it really is. Had Zaid known she has been on strong medication, he would not have been so ruthless towards her.


Yes definitely he needs to go on a guilt trip. Instead of blaming the real culprit (Asif), he chose to point fingers at MJ. She has been wrong in the past but it was not her fault Asif harrassed Ayra and her family. But here, I also blame Ayra who chose to go to a high profile wedding and create a major scene in front of the media...did she really think Asif would let it go? Vadde log vadde egos lol.


Coming to Rayaan...ehehe my thesis is incoming. I love the dude smiley36 Red flags and layered characters sprinkled with good looks and sex appeal are my favourites smiley36


The Jaffar family dynamics are very simple. Mubashira is the older narcissist who needs to be mollycoddled at all times. Rayaan is the younger child who never got his father's attention. If you recall when Jaffar and Rayaan were discussing Kashmala's rishta, MJ's first reaction was "Aapki pehli priority main hoon". And its been made very clear also, by putting Mubashira's preferences before Rayaan's. Ironically, every time Jaffar has been stressed, its Rayaan who has been there for his father.


Also, whatever Rayaan has said about his parents' dynamics...they got a divorce and the mother left without either of the kids. I think it was episode 4 where Rayaan yells that MJ is unstable and Jaffar slaps him...which then leads to him saying "salaam hai aisi maa ko jo divorce ke baad mujhe yahan chodh gayi. saath le jaati na yaar". It shows he has been neglected every time.


Rayaan's been commitment phobic and anti-serious relationships since his childhood. We haven't seen the circumstances of Jaffar's divorce but it must have been messy for this guy to have written off love altogether. He had even said this when Jaffar was pressurising him to marry Kashmala ("it just haunts me, dad"). And tbh, in Rayaan's defence, he has been very clear that he doesn't want to get married. Even post marriage he had said "dad ne kara di toh maine kar li". So it was pretty clear that the guy would continue his playboy ways even after marriage. Him becoming a father soon would not change that either. Kashmala dug her own grave with this.


Rayaan's character has been the rich, bratty, suave playboy with lots of girlfriends. He will woo the girl, have a good time, and then move on. He even told Kashmala in that restaurant scene "bahot ladkiyon ka crush hoon main." If it was Indian TV, there would be more scenes to make it obvious since we don't have any specific guidelines.


Given all this, he is also very class conscious. He has called both Mohib and Ayra "middle class" quite a few times. That's the only reason he agreed to marry Kashmala...agar shaadi karni hi hai toh apne class ki kisi ladki se kar lo.


And image conscious. He presents a decent, well-spoken version of himself to the public. So when Ayra threatened him yesterday, he got frazzled. Idk if Ayra knows about him currently having side-chicks but the fact that Kashmala might find out which would ruin the marriage (between two powerful men's kids) and his perfect image. I am sure it has nothing to do with the past because Kashmala must have known about the women in his life before he started flirting with her.


Now coming to MJ and RJ...Rayaan has stood up for Mubashira more than once. No matter what his relationship has been like with her, no "outsider" can come and screw around on his watch. Case in point, he got pissed at Zaid for running off post the nikah. At the same time, there's definitely resentment and sibling rivalry. If you looked at last week's scene carefully, he wasn't happy to have written off his shares to Mubashira. Because he has been treated as the spare like always.


Hence I feel now when Rayaan makes his move, it might affect Mubashira at some point too. So far it was all about others' MEIN that was affecting his life. Now, he's joined the battlefield.


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Hmmm! Yes. May be Zaid doesn't know the seriousness of Mubashira's condition. He would have been a little empathetic atleast.

Yes, Ayra walked into the wedding & created a thing. Even if I give benefit of doubt that she didn't think Asif would actually do anything, I don't know why she had to publicly call Zaid when he just had a Nikaah & was on stage. Alag leke jaake b bolsakti thi after function.

I agree with you. Yes, Rayan stood up for Mubashira more than once. He even discouraged her from letting Zaid marry again. Initially I didn't like him & the actor but now I like him. When I compare, looks like Zaid actually didn't really do anything concrete for Kashmala. He just knows to be Ayra's puppet & a wannabe rebel child. Yes, Rayan was ignored as a child. So might do something. Yes, I did notice that he wasn't happy handing over his shares which is fair enough. Jaffar bhi bechare se sab karadeta hai.

But, I think he won't do anything to attack Mubashira directly? She will be a collateral damage? Don't you think? In that promo scene where he is stopping Ayra from attacking or whatever, there's Asif as well. So may be they'll do something & MJ will get to know later & phas jayegi, realisation hoga like any soap's lead???

Also what do you think of Zaid & MJ's dynamics now?

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I don’t think Ayra married Zaid for revenge. She’s been amicable and polite with asif throughout, no planning, nothing. Even consoled Zaid she will convince Asif herself about the job. She just wants to get away from being at the mercy of Asif and MJ. So to her, anything is better than that.

She doesn’t want revenge but she’s also NOT going to be another one of Asif’s puppets. He can control his son but Ayra won’t let him control her life. And honestly? Good for her. They all made this mess together but at least she’s not sacrificing her self respect in the process. And asif doesn’t like her independence at all even if Zaid admires it. That means he can’t control her like he can control zaid. He can’t keep her in his office so he can daily humiliate and bully her into feeling inferior. It pisses him off lol. Because his plan didn’t work.

Ayra is not looking for revenge now but maybe her arc might transform into that later on if Asif threatens her enough or provokes her. I can see that as a possibility.


I honestly agree with you about Zaid’s difficult position. Ayra not telling him about the rival company before was unreasonable and he has my sympathies (despite me wanting him to grow a pair). But I do think these challenges are important for the zaid and ayra dynamic and it’s important for MJ’s growth to witness these ups and downs of theirs. Despite whatever happens, zaid is very loyal and affectionate with Ayra and I think MJ craves that unconditional support. Also the way Ayra waits for him and explains herself to him, there’s a longing and desperation there for him to understand her motivation. But right now he can’t. They’ve had downs before so maybe they’ll work it out. That hug and comforting scene was sweet. No matter their issues they do come back together. But for how long, I don’t know. The asif and now Rayyan thing is escalating.

I do also think we all want to see MJ’s reaction to finding out about Rayyan - I have my issues with MJ’s writing and she was totally unbothered when Ayra was telling asif that the goons were harassing her - so for me an important growth for MJ would be her believing Ayra over Rayyan eventually and supporting her genuinely. Without it being calculated or for looking nice in front of Zaid. Wouldn’t that be something ! lol


I feel like both MJ and zaid are hibernating right now and whatever is the end result of this asif ayra showdown going on right now, that’s the catalyst that’ll wake them up. It will definitely be a trigger for their final growth arc. Zaid HAS to come out of his dad’s shadow once n for all - and MJ HAS to be genuinely selfless and think of others and her own self worth.

If revenge was never intended then why did Ayra add the condition of having Zaid’s father’s acceptance? He was already out of the house, became independent and was going to divorce MJ. She knew how toxic his family is then why make these conditions? She said she didn’t care whether or not he divorced MJ. Now she can’t stand it even if he talks to her. She already knew what MJ was like too after their altercation at the house. The only thing I can possibly think that explains the MJ thing is that she knew how much Zaid despised her and was willing and on divorce her at the drop of a hat. Maybe she didn’t anticipate her acting all sweet and Zaid softening towards her. Still she asked her if she would be ok sharing her husband. Clearly Ayra is unable to do this. I’m unclear about her motivations but I’ve always felt that Ayra feels a sense of ownership when it comes to Zaid. She expects him to stand by her no matter what.

That bit in the teaser where Rayyan is grabbing Ayra’s arms with Asif just watching does seem alarming. I still don’t know what will lead up to that.

I agree that Zaid will have break free from his dad’s control and Asif and Mubashira’s actions have to start being motivated by true intentions and her realizing her self worth.

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