Feminism gaya tel lene - Page 27

Originally posted by: blue-ice.1

You are entitled to your opinion as much as I am ....and regarding the English language......this forum is not the place for it...

To quote Big B : English is a bhery phunny language. You have me on your side, neel barf!

And yes! Acting to a great degree is subjective, no harm done.

Originally posted by: ohophelia

Dekhi hain. Dhulayi karo Venga ki. He has weird obsession with male genitalia and periods. The context is Ranbir has some surgery and has to wear diaper/change pads because he's lost control of his bladder so he berates Rashmika calling mahine mein 4 baar pad badalne main itna karti hain main toh roz karta hoon. Matlab forming equivalence between shedding uterus line to pissing. You just know a man made this. Director hi chu hain. The other morons are taking shelter under his agency.

https://twitter.com/Prateek_Aaryan/status/1730816182163493065

Originally posted by: NoraSM

Isn't he a chef?

Originally posted by: Blueeeee

Bold : wtf that is sexual coercion and grooming to the power of infinity.

Ranbir is loaded. What even was his need to do such a horrid rapey film

Vanga is toh anyhow a piece of trash

I am conflicted about where I stand on this because Ido think people should have the social tools available to them to criticise and deconstruct problematic art. But, onviously, that is not true in any real world setting and these films do hold a lot of cultural sway.

Then, I think feminist groups and nwc should ask the censon board about the deterrents it places while releasing these films.

Can't believe iss desh mein bikini aur non-existent scenes se hungama mach jaata hai par yeh toh bhai chad log mast dekhenge.

Its because the movie is based on a man, a man doing terrible things is unfortunately acceptable, when men crack cringey sex jokes it's funny, when men boast about their genitals and body it's admirable, when a man defends his family by doing extremely violent things its heroic, when a man is physically and sexually dominant over a women its sexy

Originally posted by: ohophelia

Dekhi hain. Dhulayi karo Venga ki. He has weird obsession with male genitalia and periods. The context is Ranbir has some surgery and has to wear diaper/change pads because he's lost control of his bladder so he berates Rashmika calling mahine mein 4 baar pad badalne main itna karti hain main toh roz karta hoon. Matlab forming equivalence between shedding uterus line to pissing. You just know a man made this. Director hi chu hain. The other morons are taking shelter under his agency.

no only is vanga hugely mysoginistic, he is also dumb if he thinks women change their pads 4 times a month, or does he want rk's character to look dumb by saying such a stupid thing,.

Originally posted by: NoraSM

Huh?

Who did I blame if not Vanga when I say that he doesn't have a conscience and that the movie celebrated both characters? He is the one who made it, no?

In this thread, people kept arguing that he made a movie where both characters are to be hated and there is no hero. I posted the clip to show that it is not the case

Vanga is sick and so are those who are celebrating the movie (not collections)

Right. When you say Vanga has the right to make utterly hateful crap against one sex and we must not curtail art like you did in your post, where does that leave us? Because we do not exist in a vaccum.

My point is, how can we say stop celebrating when the movie is literally asking you to celebrate every deed that the male lead carries out with celebratory BGM and pats on the back for every man he kills? But then we also turn around and say collections are to be celebrated, but not the content. But they both are interlinked? It's unrealistic and expecting too much from an average audience.

I'm not ragging you but thinking aloud and pointing that we put all these conditions on viewers (what to enjoy, what not to enjoy, what to watch, what to skip) but give creative license to filmmakers especially men like Venga because it's art. So whats the solution here?

Originally posted by: ohophelia

Right. When you say Vanga has the right to make utterly hateful crap against one sex and we must not curtail art like you did in your post, where does that leave us? Because we do not exist in a vaccum.

My point is, how can we say stop celebrating when the movie is literally asking you to celebrate every deed that the male lead carries out with celebratory BGM and pats on the back for every man he kills? But then we also turn around and say collections are to be celebrated, but not the content. But they both are interlinked? It's unrealistic and expecting too much from an average audience.

I'm not ragging you but thinking aloud and pointing that we put all these conditions on viewers (what to enjoy, what not to enjoy, what to watch, what to skip) but give creative license to filmmakers especially men like Venga because it's art. So whats the solution here?

Because it is his constitutional right to make a movie he wants to make, I don't support boycott or ban of any art form also I didn't say what people should watch or enjoy, their life their choice.

My post was against the narrative which was defending Vanga and the movie by saying that movie doesn't celebrate Vijay and Abrar. Vanga is plain woman hater, he is not some brilliant filmmaker who is not asking you to celebrate the character, who is trying to show you how obsession is wrong. The narrative was wrong so I was correcting it

Why don't you ask them why are they defending him instead of coming after me?

Collection and movie are different things. People celebrating collections aren't sexist or misogynistic, people celebrating those scenes are, I am not gonna put both in the same bracket.

Originally posted by: ohophelia

Right. When you say Vanga has the right to make utterly hateful crap against one sex and we must not curtail art like you did in your post, where does that leave us? Because we do not exist in a vaccum.

My point is, how can we say stop celebrating when the movie is literally asking you to celebrate every deed that the male lead carries out with celebratory BGM and pats on the back for every man he kills? But then we also turn around and say collections are to be celebrated, but not the content. But they both are interlinked? It's unrealistic and expecting too much from an average audience.

I'm not ragging you but thinking aloud and pointing that we put all these conditions on viewers (what to enjoy, what not to enjoy, what to watch, what to skip) but give creative license to filmmakers especially men like Venga because it's art. So whats the solution here?

It's not about creative license. It's freedom of speech. Even the most despicable speech should be allowed unless it's actually calling for criminal action.

Solution is not to watch it. Not to celebrate it. Not to celebrate collections or acting or anything in it.

Kitna royenge log....it's just a movie!!!

Wonder what would happen to these people if they ever watched an A rated Disturbing Korean film.

Originally posted by: Haila_tu

Kitna royenge log....it's just a movie!!!

Wonder what would happen to these people if they ever watched an A rated Disturbing Korean film.

Do those movies glorify violence on women? Celebrate the perps as heroes?