Raghuvanshi Family ?????

This pic.....just shattered everything....my heart sank ...really could not take this😭....can't imagine what a Mother must be going through when all these years she lived for her Son after her husband had an illicit relationship with another woman inspite of being married to his first wife and went ahead and had another child....I can't come to terms how on earth are they glorifying this illegitimate relationship....call me old fashioned but this hogwash of being out of love is all crap....Kathaa madam succeeded in igniting this fire further by giving all sort of reasons how Teji wronged Seema and Vaanya and how she kept Viaan in the dark...what the heck....Holding a press meet and going live and proclaiming to the world this is us our Raghuvanshi family...like seriously don't know what's wrong with the makers 😲

Agree Lata ji, even I'm unable to decipher how this is possible. Initially Viaan was shown to be upset for the betrayal of Viraaj to their parents marriage and dad deserting Teji for another lady. Despite this track, still that betrayal exists, and it can't be justified. The message I was expecting "some unpleasant things do exist in life and we have to take a new leaf and leave the bitter bruises of the past behind"

Alas! CVs unfortunately did a whitewashing of EMA showing dementia as an excuse. They tried justifying a homewrecker. Let's not forget Viaan's mum was deserted by her partner, and she had to raise Viaan single handedly.

Also, how can Katha talk about all these things being an outsider and not having witnessed the past happenings. It's high time, CVs reduce this katha overload before it becomes Kattha. Atm, she's all over the place😡.

Buying a few toys and expensive gifts for the child doesn't equate to good parenting. Viraaj's betrayal is definitely big, which can't be rectified or justified by anything. Call me old-fashioned, but IMO Viraaj acted like a hormonal selfish teenager when he walked out of his relationship with Teji with no consideration to her emotions or any regard to their marital relationship.

Tagging mili Ji, kushi ji and mango.falooda ji for their views.

Originally posted by: Lata

This pic.....just shattered everything....my heart sank ...really could not take this😭....can't imagine what a Mother must be going through when all these years she lived for her Son after her husband had an illicit relationship with another woman inspite of being married to his first wife and went ahead and had another child....I can't come to terms how on earth are they glorifying this illegitimate relationship....call me old fashioned but this hogwash of being out of love is all crap....Kathaa madam succeeded in igniting this fire further by giving all sort of reasons how Teji wronged Seema and Vaanya and how she kept Viaan in the dark...what the heck....Holding a press meet and going live and proclaiming to the world this is us our Raghuvanshi family...like seriously don't know what's wrong with the makers 😲

rsrockz -- have a slightly different view. so am just going to share the links rather than repeat the posts I had made in DT. :)

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/163673214

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/163673386

I agree with your views but my point is the CVs shouldn't have tried to justify Seema and Viraaj affair as the right thing.

Viraaj is the biggest culprit in this mess and this lady Seema is also at fault agree Teji isn't right in causing father-son discontent.

Viraaj choose to desert his wife, the wife has cut him off their child's life.

So simply instead of this whole presser and stuff, Viaan should have understood karma has taken a toll on seema through her dementia and he should try to move on forgiving seema's family and providing a better care to Vaanya as his sister from other mother.

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

rsrockz -- have a slightly different view. so am just going to share the links rather than repeat the posts I had made in DT. :)

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/163673214

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/post/163673386

Originally posted by: Rsrockz

Tagging mili Ji, kushi ji and mango.falooda ji for their views.

I haven’t seen quite a few episodes, so I probably should not be sharing my views either… so will keep it more general.

Relationships are hard, two different personalities coming together to live harmoniously under one roof. But the desires take the mind on different path altogether. While I would love everyone to try and make their marriage work, I draw the line at certain kinds of challenges- abuse, addiction to name a few.
Does abuse have to be physical for one to walk away?
we don’t know the dynamics between Teji and Viraj. The little we get to see, Teji is quite controlling and an extremely extremely insecure person. This insecurity didn’t just pop up after Viraj left. It was always there showing up in different ways- making her needy, clingy, angry, demanding and what not. Who knows, Viraj probably had enough, found a more stable person and decided to leave. Each to his own. Easy for us to condemn, living it is not however. Therapy is not something everyone takes to. It is believed to be shameful. Besides, the fault is always with the other person, never us. So whatever Viraj’s reasons were for leaving, he might be justified simply because he didn’t want to be in a toxic environment day in and day out. Although it was never shown? The little that was shown was crude and badly done.
Yes, there are plenty of people staying in their relationships for the sake of their children. I am not a fan of this. The trauma this causes to the children and the issues they carry forward becomes generational. It is not worth it as it only leads to a society that is more toxic and difficult to live with.
Yes, a divorce didn’t happen. Not because Viraj didn’t want it, but because Teji didn’t give him one. Why? If she loved him so much, she should have let him be. If she didn’t love him, she should be glad to let him go. However, it was spite, hatred, ego that drove her actions. And this is quite common. Hatred is carried over for years holding them a prisoner in their own web of emotions and from this point all their other actions spring. As much maturity is required to live together, the same amount is required to end it too.

What I don’t get is this miraculous over the top Viaan. If he accepted the other family after therapy, over a period of time, it would be believable. What I don’t get is the need to bring a dead uninteresting story back and share “new” details about it. What I don’t get is the glorification of a man and his second love at the cost of a woman who solely brought Viaan up. However her parenting skills were, he did reasonably ok as an individual. How is Viaan talking about her relationship on a public platform good for her? If he wants to be supportive of his mother, both should go to therapy, address their fears and worries, accept some of their actions were wrong and then begin to move forward from there.

Seema with last stage dementia is utter crap. Have the makers even seen someone with dementia? They don’t look, speak, walk, or show emotions like how Seema does. What’s with the the “I am afraid, mom can forget everything any time now” stuff? Like in an hour, in a day? So please make whatever announcements now? 🙄

kushi -- I agree with you; from the onset, the drama has done this. I was really irritated with how viaan went from being angry and live wire to this saint because he fell in love. 🙄🙄🙄 UGH. I wrote so many posts on how the character change didn't feel natural and didn't make sense.

now here again, we have a real issue and instead of dealing with it in a real emotional way, we again have saint viaan. why? as I mentioned in DT, over the top fan praise went to the makers head. makers feel masala is too beneath them and so they are going to be different by not going through the masala route. this means a lack of true emotion and instead the main character being a saint. 🙄🙄🙄

that is why you get unbelievable resolutions to these emotional arcs. the answer for everything is saint viaan displaying his goodness and letting go with hardly any emotional turmoil at his end.

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

kushi -- I agree with you; from the onset, the drama has done this. I was really irritated with how viaan went from being angry and live wire to this saint because he fell in love. 🙄🙄🙄 UGH. I wrote so many posts on how the character change didn't feel natural and didn't make sense.

now here again, we have a real issue and instead of dealing with it in a real emotional way, we again have saint viaan. why? as I mentioned in DT, over the top fan praise went to the makers head. makers feel masala is too beneath them and so they are going to be different by not going through the masala route. this means a lack of true emotion and instead the main character being a saint. 🙄🙄🙄

that is why you get unbelievable resolutions to these emotional arcs. the answer for everything is saint viaan displaying his goodness and letting go with hardly any emotional turmoil at his end.

It’s so creepy, I wouldn’t want to be anywhere near him.

Because it really happens in real life too. Whenever a conflict happens between couple and most probably we listen to one side of the story, we will never get the whole picture. People usually talk from their perspective and make them saints and blame the other person.

Since the beginning of the show we know only one side of the story, only Teji’s perspective. She made herself a victim and blamed her husband and “the other woman” for everything.

It is not white washing or making EMA right, its just that we got a different perspective, a story from viraaj’s side. That is all.

My aunt and uncle have similar story like teji and viraaj.We had more relation with my aunt and we believed her when she said her story. If we haven’t listened to his side of the story, we would have completely blamed him just how their children did.

I believe one day they will talk to their father and realise how wrong was their mother.

Kushi ji & sakZ ji I hope you both are well, IMO It's ridiculous how makers have utilised deceased parent's EMA as a plot point and reason behind son making unreasonable request to a woman and then whitewashing him as a SAINT through justifying the same EMA and him siding with the people involved in the EMA. First of all on so many levels EMA isn't justified and deserve no discussions than Viaan's useless presser.

The presser kind of scenes normalise EMAs.

Originally posted by: kushikumari

I haven’t seen quite a few episodes, so I probably should not be sharing my views either… so will keep it more general.

Relationships are hard, two different personalities coming together to live harmoniously under one roof. But the desires take the mind on different path altogether. While I would love everyone to try and make their marriage work, I draw the line at certain kinds of challenges- abuse, addiction to name a few.
Does abuse have to be physical for one to walk away?
we don’t know the dynamics between Teji and Viraj. The little we get to see, Teji is quite controlling and an extremely extremely insecure person. This insecurity didn’t just pop up after Viraj left. It was always there showing up in different ways- making her needy, clingy, angry, demanding and what not. Who knows, Viraj probably had enough, found a more stable person and decided to leave. Each to his own. Easy for us to condemn, living it is not however. Therapy is not something everyone takes to. It is believed to be shameful. Besides, the fault is always with the other person, never us. So whatever Viraj’s reasons were for leaving, he might be justified simply because he didn’t want to be in a toxic environment day in and day out. Although it was never shown? The little that was shown was crude and badly done.
Yes, there are plenty of people staying in their relationships for the sake of their children. I am not a fan of this. The trauma this causes to the children and the issues they carry forward becomes generational. It is not worth it as it only leads to a society that is more toxic and difficult to live with.
Yes, a divorce didn’t happen. Not because Viraj didn’t want it, but because Teji didn’t give him one. Why? If she loved him so much, she should have let him be. If she didn’t love him, she should be glad to let him go. However, it was spite, hatred, ego that drove her actions. And this is quite common. Hatred is carried over for years holding them a prisoner in their own web of emotions and from this point all their other actions spring. As much maturity is required to live together, the same amount is required to end it too.

What I don’t get is this miraculous over the top Viaan. If he accepted the other family after therapy, over a period of time, it would be believable. What I don’t get is the need to bring a dead uninteresting story back and share “new” details about it. What I don’t get is the glorification of a man and his second love at the cost of a woman who solely brought Viaan up. However her parenting skills were, he did reasonably ok as an individual. How is Viaan talking about her relationship on a public platform good for her? If he wants to be supportive of his mother, both should go to therapy, address their fears and worries, accept some of their actions were wrong and then begin to move forward from there.

Seema with last stage dementia is utter crap. Have the makers even seen someone with dementia? They don’t look, speak, walk, or show emotions like how Seema does. What’s with the the “I am afraid, mom can forget everything any time now” stuff? Like in an hour, in a day? So please make whatever announcements now? 🙄

Originally posted by: Rsrockz

Kushi ji & sakZ ji I hope you both are well, IMO It's ridiculous how makers have utilised deceased parent's EMA as a plot point and reason behind son making unreasonable request to a woman and then whitewashing him as a SAINT through justifying the same EMA and him siding with the people involved in the EMA. First of all on so many levels EMA isn't justified and deserve no discussions than Viaan's useless presser.

The presser kind of scenes normalise EMAs.

two questions-

1. what unreasonable request did Viaan make?

2. what is presser?

Yes, extra marital affairs should never happen. One should walk out first and then get involved. But that is not how it happens with some people. At least Viraj didn't stay on with Teji and continue with his affair. That would be even worse for all people to live with. I would actually like a fair amount of the past to be shown, not as Viaan's perspective or Teji's, but just as it occurred.