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Wow, Swati, you are harsher on Arnav than I am. I feel sorry for the 24 year old decent man he used to be who has 10 years later, f***** up his life so badly and in turn done the same to the wonderful, kind, generous, woman who stood by him always whom he used to love. And, her only real crime is she has loved him above all.

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Originally posted by: BollyBabe75

Wow, Swati, you are harsher on Arnav than I am. I feel sorry for the 24 year old decent man he used to be who has 10 years later, f***** up his life so badly and in turn done the same to the wonderful, kind, generous, woman who stood by him always whom he used to love. And, her only real crime is she has loved him above all.

I never mince my words, look at things from Khushi's perspective, what did she do to even deserve this from him? Not only her but even her family got dragged, brougth to tears by society taunts because of the divorce and Khushi being tagged as infertile woman.. There are endless repercussions of his reckless behavior...

The man has tactfully taken care of pics avoiding leaking to the public, there is no concept of public figures accpting their sins in public and apologize to their spuce / society in India so his image will be intact, his deed will be hidden an he will still be able to walk in society with his head held high... What does Khushi get? humiliation of her husband cheating on her, whispers about she being infertile and hence dumped by husband. If La being pregnant comes out, it will permanently stamp her as infertile woman, so the husband went to the other woman, society will sympathize with him and even La to accept their adultery while blaming Khushi...

Has he even thought anything from Khushi's angle before dumping his decisions recklessly??? Or maybe he still thinks offering her penthouse and alimony for 10 years marriage is enough...

I do not want Khushi to forgive him ever if La was really pregnant with him, aborted the bay etc. even though it looks like the pregnancy matter was taken care and La is out of his life! What he has put her through over the last one and half years, is NOT reedemable! Unless Arpita brings in a better twist and saves the day for Arnav!

Originally posted by: SwatStar_Arshi

Tashi, you are again applying real world rules for a rave party.. These parties are like "Dum Maro Dum" parties and you don't even need rooms for doing things, everyone knows what's going on but don't stop each other and no one talks about it outside later... Car key exchange, eyes wide shut (watch this movie, shocker) and many are known styles of rave parties where openly partner exchange or group activities or ONS happen. It doesn't suit someone's morals, they shouldn't attend but if one is there and chooses to stay in such party, its clear they are OK with what happens there or with them under the inflence and its all normal, consensual in their world. There is always a short window for people to step out and save their day. Arnav had figured it was a rave party; drug fuelled smoke fests as soon as he entered but he chose to stay back, let loose for the first time.

Also high level secrets or activities may get discussed if business / politics involved and one is supposed to ignore or stay out of such areas. The punishment of being at wrong place at wrong time is very high, sometimes it even costs lives, why do you think people like Divya Bharathi or Disha Salian died suspiciously while attending such parties?

If someone is caught in such situation, unfortunately the only option they have is what Arnav did here in FanFic or Priyanka in Fashion movie, wear your clothes and walk away. They can't go to Dr to check or approach police, they have no injury to indicate it was forced and they are mature adults. And people high on alcohol, drugs can themselve invite or give in easily, it's a given.. First question anyone will ask is why did you go to a rave party knowing it's culture?

I am NOT disagreeing wrong things happen in rave parties, in fact what happens there is pretty much morally wrong but still prople do it by choice.

Sorry but this is the reality of rave parties...

ADDED - Watch Murder in Greenwich, true story happened in USA; murder of a 15 years old girl while running away from a elite teen rave party.

He was just trying to leave, call his driver when this happened.

Plus even in his dreams he did not think something like this would happen to him.

We girls are taught to be cautious, men don’t understand that they can too be taken advantage of.

Being at a wrong place, at a wrong time does not right the wrong done on you.

A girl coming back from a party with her guy friends in a car was gang ra*ed, all of them were drunk. But that does not mean what happened to her is her fault or it’s justified because she was not cautious enough. And this a real incident which happened in Hyderabad, all of them were from powerful families studying in a good school.

I know we all feel for Khushi, I still feel she might never forgive him for the way he behaved for one whole year. My heart goes out for her, she suffered for no fault of hers. But let us blame the husband not the man whose rights were violated.

Makes me think how much did he tell the lawyer? Because I remember she said if Mrs Raizada comes to know of the adultery , I don’t think this is adultery. Shouldn’t the lawyer know better? He is seen bitter with lavanya and said any publicity is good for actress la.

His crimes against khushi are not being communicative and shutting her out. Also khushi failed in communication too, the pills!!! Four months not one night or even a week!!! he was under impression that they genuinely tried for a baby. What were the talking about that time? He had the guilt of not being able to provide her with her dearest wish, this will be the same if he was infertile. Here is guilt is doubled because it’s his mind not the body that’s not supporting. He needed reassurance not avoidance of the topic. Until now khushi has not done anything to make me think she is a strong woman, and can deal with what life throws at her. No , letting go of a wish to have a child doesn’t count. You would do that even if your partner is infertile. Mindset is a really big thing.

In my opinion a baby should be brought in this world, because you really want it and with a willing partner, not to prove to the society that you are infertile!!! My heart goes for both of them to be thrown in this avalanche .

I am eagerly waiting for the next chapter.

Originally posted by: tashi26

But Arnav’s letting himself loose definition did not include getting laid that night. He was not even thinking on those lines. He was not actually comfortable in a rave party.

He was just trying to leave, call his driver when this happened.

Plus even in his dreams he did not think something like this would happen to him.

We girls are taught to be cautious, men don’t understand that they can too be taken advantage of.

Being at a wrong place, at a wrong time does not right the wrong done on you.

A girl coming back from a party with her guy friends in a car was gang ra*ed, all of them were drunk. But that does not mean what happened to her is her fault or it’s justified because she was not cautious enough. And this a real incident which happened in Hyderabad, all of them were from powerful families studying in a good school.

I know we all feel for Khushi, I still feel she might never forgive him for the way he behaved for one whole year. My heart goes out for her, she suffered for no fault of hers. But let us blame the husband not the man whose rights were violated.

Tashi, I am sorry to say but you are still missing my point...

In RAVE parties having s*x or making out with random people or group s*xual activities under influence are as normal as listening to music, dance or having drinks/drugs... The people who attend such parties are aware of it and ok with it and want to be part of such thrills / activities and enjoy! I cannot be more specific than this.. These are the most saint people by day where as immoral, despicable, worst devils by night doing everything with no shame and ethics; Lavanya can be a perfect brand ambassador. As I said, these parties follow anti-social behavior and disobey the society rules... Read or see local news in Mumbai / Delhi where so many small rave parties are bursted and when police get them out, men/women are hiding their faces...

Good people are supposed to stay away from it, period.

One does anything or not, getting busted in a RAVE party is shameful for everyone caught, including celebrities.. Forget Khushi for a minute, Arnav risked his own rappo and status by staying in a rave party, imagine he could be completely wasted, unconcious and pics coming out with girls throwing at him or in compromised position, no one will ever believe he didn't do anything in a RAVE party. Rave parties have that kind of worst image. A man is known by company he keeps and it will be tarnished for life...

What happened there is under influence, drugs or no drugs his body responded and got involved in the act making it consensual no matter who started it, they ended up together... He was verbally saying something else and his body responded to something else and Lavanya chose to listen to his body language, we know the consequences... Nothing can change the fact that he woke up with na*ed Lavanya and what if she has pics to blackmail him or release in the media?? The respect he earned working hard 10 years will be down the drain in minutes, his own stupidity will be responsible for it...

This is completely different from R*pe or gang R*pe and I cannot even think about this...

Swati, my mind is going into overdrive on thoughts of Arnav’s ongoing equation with Lavenya. He says things like Manali interfering with Lavenya’s relationships, and then Lavenya saying to him won’t you give this a chance. And then of course there is the baby thing as the biggest bomb. And then the I won’t marry you or anyone he says to her. Then , Manali says to be patient, you got him and he’ll come to you. OMG! Arpita wouldn’t throw in a big twist like what I am thinking would she?

I’m scared now because the pregnancy twist I thought of long back before she just hit us with it a few days ago.

And Swati they still don’t get how Arnav’s reckless behavior led to what happened. The man had seven drinks and if I read correctly was on his eighth at a drug, sex and alcohol party that he chose to throw caution to the wind and stay at. No, he didn’t intend to sleep with anyone but when you put yourself recklessly in a position where inhibitions weaken, things happen. And they sure did! Give up. I am assuming the next installment will further answer some questions.

Originally posted by: BollyBabe75

Swati, my mind is going into overdrive on thoughts of Arnav’s ongoing equation with Lavenya. He says things like Manali interfering with Lavenya’s relationships, and then Lavenya saying to him won’t you give this a chance. And then of course there is the baby thing as the biggest bomb. And then the I won’t marry you or anyone he says to her. Then , Manali says to be patient, you got him and he’ll come to you. OMG! Arpita wouldn’t throw in a big twist like what I am thinking would she?

I’m scared now because the pregnancy twist I thought of long back before she just hit us with it a few days ago.

Yes I agree. Arnav and La were together Oct 9th 2015 and she told him being pregnant Nov 8th 2015. My thoughts -

1. La was already pregnant as I mentioned in one of my long notes after this chapter. I refused to believe she was celibate last 6 years. Knowing how immoral bit*h she is, she was enjoying with other men while being obsessed with Arnav and waiting for the opportunity...

2. Arnav confidently rejected Manali's blackmail and said he is done with La indicates baby matter is resolved. The baby never existed or was aborted, we will know soon.

3. Manali would not use Khushi as pawn to blackmail Arnav if La was still preggo. She will simply force Arnav to marry La if she is still preggo and will threaten to take it to the media with pics... Arnav and La happened on Oct 9th 2015, current story is in Mar 2016 if La is still carrying, baby will be already 5+ months and will be showing so they can no longer hide... Anyways La is 30+ with few more years of shelf life as an actress and marrying a producer will keep it intact or in fact increase her years in the industry. Being preggo is win-win for La I personally feel.

4. But considering Arnav cleared his stance to La in Jan itself, looks like Nov-Dec time frame, he managed to take care of the matter... Waiting for Arpita to throw new googlies at us and add new suspense...

Originally posted by: SwatStar_Arshi

Tashi, I am sorry to say but you are still missing my point...

In RAVE parties having s*x or making out with random people or group s*xual activities under influence are as normal as listening to music, dance or having drinks/drugs... The people who attend such parties are aware of it and ok with it and want to be part of such thrills / activities and enjoy! I cannot be more specific than this.. These are the most saint people by day where as immoral, despicable, worst devils by night doing everything with no shame and ethics; Lavanya can be a perfect brand ambassador. As I said, these parties follow anti-social behavior and disobey the society rules... Read or see local news in Mumbai / Delhi where so many small rave parties are bursted and when police get them out, men/women are hiding their faces...

Good people are supposed to stay away from it, period.

One does anything or not, getting busted in a RAVE party is shameful for everyone caught, including celebrities.. Forget Khushi for a minute, Arnav risked his own rappo and status by staying in a rave party, imagine he could be completely wasted, unconcious and pics coming out with girls throwing at him or in compromised position, no one will ever believe he didn't do anything in a RAVE party. Rave parties have that kind of worst image. A man is known by company he keeps and it will be tarnished for life...

What happened there is under influence, drugs or no drugs his body responded and got involved in the act making it consensual no matter who started it, they ended up together... He was verbally saying something else and his body responded to something else and Lavanya chose to listen to his body language, we know the consequences... Nothing can change the fact that he woke up with na*ed Lavanya and what if she has pics to blackmail him or release in the media?? The respect he earned working hard 10 years will be down the drain in minutes, his own stupidity will be responsible for it...

This is completely different from R*pe or gang R*pe and I cannot even think about this...

They are illegal, because people do dru*gs there which are illegal. Booze is allowed in parties not dr*gs.

But what I am trying to say is Arnav was not doing dr*gs there( though there is a high possibility he was dr*gged, I have strong reasons to believe that) ,he was drinking which is not illegal in India. He was planning to leave too. So, whatever happened with him was not right.

Yes he was at the wrong place and was not cautious but he did not even think this could have happened. So, it looked like it was consensual but even court recognises that consent under influence is not consent if you have said no even once and here he was trying to refuse that lunatics advances repeatedly.

Rave party or not, ra*e is a ra*e.

I completely agree with one thing though he shouldn’t have stayed there and left immediately. He did jeopardise his reputation, his relationships with Khushi everything . But he was already emotionally vulnerable and depressed too and his only fault was not leaving immediately. His inner voice wanted him to leave and he did but by then that vulture was ready to attack.

Swati, I think the baby matter has been taken care of but OMG I was thinking more along the lines of him having some kind of relationship with Lavenya after he found out about the baby. Yes, he was racked with guilt over the adultery but he had already decided on the divorce so maybe he thought he owed something to Lavenya and then got entangled with her. Then he found out some truths about something and then was very put off with Manali and then Lavenya.

My mind is in overdrive.