Power imbalance in the pairings - Page 3

I respectfully disagree with your points and interpretation of the show.

While Akshara initially faced challenges, it is important to recognize her growth and transformation throughout the series.

Akshara's ability to make decisions, such as mending the relationship between Manju, Harsh, and Abhi, showcases her strength and willingness to create harmony within the family.

The pregnancy and Khera incidents were complex situations that required Akshara to make difficult choices for the well-being of her own family. While these decisions may have caused confusion, it is important to remember the underlying intentions and the challenges she faced.

Regarding Akshara's relationship with Nav, it is unfair to solely focus on material wealth and background. Their connection was built on love and understanding, and it is natural for Nav to consider the financial aspects during Abhir's health issue. The custody battle involved intense emotions and protective instincts, leading to heated confrontations. Akshara and her family's actions were driven by their concern for Abhir's safety.

Labeling Akshara as pretending to be a victim overlooks the multifaceted nature of her character. Throughout the series, she has faced numerous trials and tribulations and has demonstrated resilience and determination. The ongoing drama showcases the complexity of relationships and the challenges faced by all characters.

In terms of communication between Akshara and Abhi, it is important to remember that every relationship has its own dynamics. While they may have their disagreements, it does not mean that Akshara disregards Abhi's opinions or decisions.

Originally posted by: Deltablues

Obviously Abhimanyu and Neil were littul babies here who got manipulated by vile Goenka sisters. Not educated, well-developed adults considerably older than both these women lololol.

"She literally had to be convinced by the elders of the family to choose Abhimanyu."

How dare she have any notion of consent?!?

(Before anyone explains to me how she secretly loved him and consent doesn't matter, a diabetic can love sweets and still choose not to eat them. No one can fake a suicide to manipulate them to eat sweets.)

You know all the healthy men who have to get engaged to the sister of the girl they supposedly like and then fake an effing suicide to get the girl to say yes to them.

From all the things, you have mentioned everything starts with Abhimanyu said x, Akshara did y. Hence, Akshara bad. Akshara wasn't a recalcitrant child who would have ended up on the right side if she would have only heeded to great, responsible Dr. Birla. She is an effing adult with agency of her own.

How infantalising is it to say that I got engaged to your sister and then very publicly humiliated your sister by faking a suicide on the day of the wedding just to marry you but please don't get involved in my family matters lol.

People wax poetics about how Akshara is insensitive and a bad mother because she did not keep herself, her foetuses safe. But was her foetuses' lives morally anymore sacred than the lives of the children she was trying to save? Are those children's lives any less important because they don't share DNA with great non-abusive Abhimanyu Birla?

A child's life is a child's life. A foetus is not even independent of mother and legally not considered a separate entity till after 20 weeks of the pregnancy.

Anyhow, morally, she was the one who's body was harmed in an accident while trying to save numerous children's lives and a whole ass man had the audacity to abuse her for being in pain. Because his adult brother took a decision which said that it was okay to risk his life to save other children's lives.

@bold : what in the manic pixie hell. Bros, the younger girls who remind you of your mother because they are singing a random song at a random temple. Whom you emotionally manipulate to get "yes" out of them are not your therapists. They are not supposed to either be your trauma dumping site or free ki grief counsellors lol. Especially if you-are-a-god-s-gift-to -medical-science surgeon, please consult other medical professionals to cure your childhood trauma.

Akshara's intention wasn't wrong . She just wanted to help those NGO girls... But her way is questionable.. She initiated that dumb decision of going to the concert scene. She emotionally manipulated Neil by saying "Mein khud ko maaf nahi kar paungi ".. It was Neil who said her to inform police & then wanted to go back to Birla House. If Neil hadn't advised her to inform police, she might not have done even that..Neil became a part of her decision.. What is funny is they didn't had any plan what will they do after going there?

More than what happened that day, what happened after that pisses me off... She has absolutely zeo guilt for whatever happened that day.. Neil's first statement "Bhabhi hum kar hi kya sakte hai, ghar chalte hai " should haunt her for life..

She dragged Neil to that situation & Neil went there because he was trying to protect Akshara.. When Neil went out to fight the goons, she was sitting inside the car because Neil gave her some Kasam.... And as an audience I laughed so hard because wait a minute, didn't Abhimanyu gave her Kasam to not do any stunt & take care of herself.

She didn't remember Abhimanyu's promise but she remember Neil 's promise because oh Khud ka fayda jahaan bhi ho.

And then when she saw Neil dieing, she was like oh let me also do some stunt to play victim card later.

Neil kept doing things that Akshara wanted to do because he wanted to protect Akshara. Neil died while protecting Akshara, not even the NGO girls.. And eventually, it was police who came on the right time & saved the girls & Akshara otherwise the goons were about to kill even Akshara..

Neil's life was sacrificed for Akshara's stubbornness when eventually it was police who saved the NGO girls & Akshara.. Neil died while protecting his bhabhi. And she has no guilt about it.

Even on white day Abhimanyu said the same thing. Her intention of helping wasn't wrong but the way she chose was definitely wrong.. But Akshara was shamelessly asking "meri kya galati hai " & now she keeps saying Neil's death was "chhoti si galati".

All, I can say Neil's death was unfortunate but it was because of Akshara's impulsive & dumb decision.. And she has absolutely zero guilt for it.

Originally posted by: CreativeBuff

Akshara's intention wasn't wrong . She just wanted to help those NGO girls... But her way is questionable.. She initiated that dumb decision of going to the concert scene. She emotionally manipulated Neil by saying "Mein khud ko maaf nahi kar paungi ".. It was Neil who said her to inform police & then wanted to go back to Birla House. If Neil hadn't advised her to inform police, she might not have done even that..Neil became a part of her decision.. What is funny is they didn't had any plan what will they do after going there?

More than what happened that day, what happened after that pisses me off... She has absolutely zeo guilt for whatever happened that day.. Neil's first statement "Bhabhi hum kar hi kya sakte hai, ghar chalte hai " should haunt her for life..

She dragged Neil to that situation & Neil went there because he was trying to protect Akshara.. When Neil went out to fight the goons, she was sitting inside the car because Neil gave her some Kasam.... And as an audience I laughed so hard because wait a minute, didn't Abhimanyu gave her Kasam to not do any stunt & take care of herself.

She didn't remember Abhimanyu's promise but she remember Neil 's promise because oh Khud ka fayda jahaan bhi ho.

And then when she saw Neil dieing, she was like oh let me also do some stunt to play victim card later.

Neil kept doing things that Akshara wanted to do because he wanted to protect Akshara. Neil died while protecting Akshara, not even the NGO girls.. And eventually, it was police who came on the right time & saved the girls & Akshara otherwise the goons were about to kill even Akshara..

Neil's life was sacrificed for Akshara's stubbornness when eventually it was police who saved the NGO girls & Akshara.. Neil died while protecting his bhabhi. And she has no guilt about it.

Even on white day Abhimanyu said the same thing. Her intention of helping wasn't wrong but the way she chose was definitely wrong.. But Akshara was shamelessly asking "meri kya galati hai " & now she keeps saying Neil's death was "chhoti si galati".

All, I can say Neil's death was unfortunate but it was because of Akshara's impulsive & dumb decision.. And she has absolutely zero guilt for it.

Akshara has zero conscience for that matter and already a gone case .

Sometimes people guilt trip themselves for a death when they aren't even responsible for it , not saying that it is correct though , rather it depicts how much people are sensitive regarding life and death.

And here we have akshara who fails to feel any guilt for leading neil to his death .

Originally posted by: Sukriti4u

I respectfully disagree with your points and interpretation of the show.

While Akshara initially faced challenges, it is important to recognize her growth and transformation throughout the series.

Akshara's ability to make decisions, such as mending the relationship between Manju, Harsh, and Abhi, showcases her strength and willingness to create harmony within the family.

The pregnancy and Khera incidents were complex situations that required Akshara to make difficult choices for the well-being of her own family. While these decisions may have caused confusion, it is important to remember the underlying intentions and the challenges she faced.

Regarding Akshara's relationship with Nav, it is unfair to solely focus on material wealth and background. Their connection was built on love and understanding, and it is natural for Nav to consider the financial aspects during Abhir's health issue. The custody battle involved intense emotions and protective instincts, leading to heated confrontations. Akshara and her family's actions were driven by their concern for Abhir's safety.

Labeling Akshara as pretending to be a victim overlooks the multifaceted nature of her character. Throughout the series, she has faced numerous trials and tribulations and has demonstrated resilience and determination. The ongoing drama showcases the complexity of relationships and the challenges faced by all characters.

In terms of communication between Akshara and Abhi, it is important to remember that every relationship has its own dynamics. While they may have their disagreements, it does not mean that Akshara disregards Abhi's opinions or decisions.

Some points made are valid where AK did try to mend broken relationships. But that doesn't mean everyone had to agree with her decisions. Yeah some worked and some didn't. But why for AK it was so important that it should go her way ?

Ok So how about seeing this whole post from Abhimanyu's perspective? E.g. 'Throughout the series, she has faced numerous trials and tribulations and has demonstrated resilience and determination" .. at cost of what? If she faced turbulations so did Abhimanyu. May be he didn't handle it like AK because Abhimanyu lost more than just trust on AK that day. May be it was AK complete lack of accountability that added fuel to the fire? Not justifying what he did but it takes two to a tango.

In terms of communication between Akshara and Abhi, it is important to remember that every relationship has its own dynamics - yes exactly. But did AK actually respect these dynamics ? She is totally playing the victim here as if she has absolutely nothing nothing nothing to do with Neil's death.

With Abhinav there is one dimensional communication...AK says and Abhinav agrees. So that's why she is happy with abhinav because hey any woman would like her partner to agree with every thing they say.

Originally posted by: LadooCandy

Akshara has zero conscience for that matter and already a gone case .

Sometimes people guilt trip themselves for a death when they aren't even responsible for it , not saying that is correct though , rather it depicts how much people are sensitive regarding life and death.

And here we have akshara who fails to feel any guilt for leading neil to his death .

Even in Gen 2 Naira was accused of Shubham's death by swarna. Swarna slapped her & threw her out.. Naira was no where involved or responsible for Shubham's death because he died of drug overdose.But still Naira was empathetic to swarna & was guilty . She said " Aap maa hai, aapka dard samajh sakti hu, aapka dard bada hai "

And here we have Akshara, forget being guilty she is extremely insensitive. She says "meri kya galati hai", " chhoti si galti", "mera dard bada hai "

Manjiri's emotional outburst wasn't wrong on white day because no mother will behave sane after seeing the dead body of her son.

Akshara keeps talking about her pain. Did she ever understood other's pain? Did she ever realize that Aarohi became widow, Roohi became fatherless even before her birth, Manjiri lost her son, Abhimanyu lost her brother & two babies,? Just in a day, everyone's world turned upside down.

It took her just 5 months to find another man & start a happy family with him, while she made her sister widow & destroyed someone else's happy family.

She is extremely insensitive, vile & cruel

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Originally posted by: gopi2929

Some points made are valid where AK did try to mend broken relationships. But that doesn't mean everyone had to agree with her decisions. Yeah some worked and some didn't. But why for AK it was so important that it should go her way ?

Ok So how about seeing this whole post from Abhimanyu's perspective? E.g. 'Throughout the series, she has faced numerous trials and tribulations and has demonstrated resilience and determination" .. at cost of what? If she faced turbulations so did Abhimanyu. May be he didn't handle it like AK because Abhimanyu lost more than just trust on AK that day. May be it was AK complete lack of accountability that added fuel to the fire? Not justifying what he did but it takes two to a tango.

In terms of communication between Akshara and Abhi, it is important to remember that every relationship has its own dynamics - yes exactly. But did AK actually respect these dynamics ? She is totally playing the victim here as if she has absolutely nothing nothing nothing to do with Neil's death.

With Abhinav there is one dimensional communication...AK says and Abhinav agrees. So that's why she is happy with abhinav because hey any woman would like her partner to agree with every thing they say.

While you make some valid points about Abhimanyu's perspective, I would say that Akshara's intentions and actions were driven by a need to protect and create harmony within her family, not just to enforce her own will.

Yes, Abhimanyu faced numerous challenges as well, but this doesn't minimize Akshara's struggles. She faced lot more struggles. Each character handles adversity in their own way. It's essential to remember that Akshara and Abhimanyu's relationship was fraught with communication and compatibility issues.

I agree that it's not healthy to always agree with a partner in a relationship. However, it's not fair to say that Akshara is merely 'happy' because Abhinav agrees with her. Their relationship could be based on mutual respect and understanding, which might translate to them being on the same page most of the time.

In regards to Neil's death, we cannot forget that it was a deeply traumatic event for all involved. It's natural for Akshara to feel victimized given the circumstances, but it doesn't mean she's playing the victim. She could be coping with her own guilt and grief, which might come across as avoidance.

In conclusion, while Akshara's decisions may not always have been right, they were made with good intentions. The complexity of her character comes from these moral dilemmas and the personal growth that comes from facing them.

Originally posted by: Sukriti4u

While you make some valid points about Abhimanyu's perspective, I would say that Akshara's intentions and actions were driven by a need to protect and create harmony within her family, not just to enforce her own will.

Yes, Abhimanyu faced numerous challenges as well, but this doesn't minimize Akshara's struggles. She faced lot more struggles. Each character handles adversity in their own way. It's essential to remember that Akshara and Abhimanyu's relationship was fraught with communication and compatibility issues.

I agree that it's not healthy to always agree with a partner in a relationship. However, it's not fair to say that Akshara is merely 'happy' because Abhinav agrees with her. Their relationship could be based on mutual respect and understanding, which might translate to them being on the same page most of the time.

In regards to Neil's death, we cannot forget that it was a deeply traumatic event for all involved. It's natural for Akshara to feel victimized given the circumstances, but it doesn't mean she's playing the victim. She could be coping with her own guilt and grief, which might come across as avoidance.

In conclusion, while Akshara's decisions may not always have been right, they were made with good intentions. The complexity of her character comes from these moral dilemmas and the personal growth that comes from facing them.

So why is this moral dilemma only for AK? Both AK and Abhimanyu had their share of troubles, challenges, mistakes and miscommunication. So why is only Abhimanyu held responsible? Why AK had the audacity to say "afraid son will be like father" ?? Why has she put herself on such a pedestal? AK has completely erased her role on the white day according to her convenience. How is she not playing the victim when she never wants to talk about that incident? Again Abhimanyu was more wrong - in fact very wrong - but was AK really really really not accountable for anything? I don't sat accidents don't happen and what happed that day was an accident. But AK is making it seem like - everyone is over reacting since I did no wrong.

That day was a majorly bad day for abhimanyu as well. I see Abhimanyu repents his actions but AK is too high headed to be even considered rational anymore.

Originally posted by: Sukriti4u

I respectfully disagree with your points and interpretation of the show.

While Akshara initially faced challenges, it is important to recognize her growth and transformation throughout the series.

Akshara's ability to make decisions, such as mending the relationship between Manju, Harsh, and Abhi, showcases her strength and willingness to create harmony within the family.

The pregnancy and Khera incidents were complex situations that required Akshara to make difficult choices for the well-being of her own family. While these decisions may have caused confusion, it is important to remember the underlying intentions and the challenges she faced.

Regarding Akshara's relationship with Nav, it is unfair to solely focus on material wealth and background. Their connection was built on love and understanding, and it is natural for Nav to consider the financial aspects during Abhir's health issue. The custody battle involved intense emotions and protective instincts, leading to heated confrontations. Akshara and her family's actions were driven by their concern for Abhir's safety.

Labeling Akshara as pretending to be a victim overlooks the multifaceted nature of her character. Throughout the series, she has faced numerous trials and tribulations and has demonstrated resilience and determination. The ongoing drama showcases the complexity of relationships and the challenges faced by all characters.

In terms of communication between Akshara and Abhi, it is important to remember that every relationship has its own dynamics. While they may have their disagreements, it does not mean that Akshara disregards Abhi's opinions or decisions.

Of course she tried to mend things to make peace and make solid family foundation..but if you try to fix something you have to understand how it was broken. Harsh was a wife beater, is it really necessary to make peace with a vile man like him? Even if he had done 100good other things abhi wouldn't have forgotten the abuse he has done to neil and Manju. Ak never even asked once why harsh is like this, why abhi is so disgusted by him. She probably thought it was usual dad son angst.

Same for khera, she went with the doc to save abhi no doubt. But it boils down to how abhi felt in her absence, to him it was abandonment. He only wanted her since day 1 but she wanted xyz things with him, that's the difference. It's kinda like that scene in hum tumhare hai sanam lol . If abhi didn't care about her thoughts during abortion thing, she didn't care about him during aro hit and run and khera thing either. You can have your own ideas about how to keep a family join, but you also have to take into consideration others feelings. If people aren't happy what's the point? And ak did it again and again. No understanding or looking back on mistake to realise where she went wrong.

Ak chose nav during a vulnerable period of her life and he has supported her 200% none can deny that. But once again, where is navs input in custody case for a kid whom he loves as a son? Not once ak considered his inputs. Nav pushed abhir away to make him feel at ease in birla house and she agreed, i mean girl where is your brain why you couldn't sit down with the two and have discussion. The kid is so mature to know about financial issue he can understand how maa papa isn't together so he will have three parents now. Abhir wanted to know about his real dad not to hate him . Now the kid is sad and so formal with the two, how hurtful that might be for nav. He's suddenly excluded from the kids life and he wasn't even consulted on that. He's another collateral damage in this case. Regarding their relationship, yes she chose him but even before the abhir abhi meet scene u can see how ak single handedly runs the house, he's another kid to her and it's evident she's the man of house and nav is a supporter. What she probably wanted bt couldn't have with her ex.

Post leap the way she has been shown on screen it's hard to see her as victim of childhood trauma and abuse by birlas/abhi. She's blatantly cruel to everyone and probably going through some extreme mental issue judging by today's epi when she blabbered in front of principal. Not that I can blame her but half the things were her own doing. She could have happily moved on to another man bt if only she would have kept goenkas involved. Went to abhi when the kid was born and broke the relationship. There are so many ways to solve this. When abhi wanted to be part of abhirs life as third parent she was so dismissive of it, it's kinda like a karma how she's reduced to weekend mom now. She pushed abhir away cause she had some stupid ideas in head and she's like woe me i can't hug my kid. .I mean who's stopping you girl? And she was nice to abhi only when she felt like. When in custody case just before the hearing was going to happen she's like I will tell abhir about u. Before that every time she's so disrespectful hurtful to the man. Their dynamics as husband wife is fine, what about parents? Ak didn't cry this time though she thought will win and when she lost she went crazy.

NOTE :post edited by YRKKH DT for removing few words that were against the rules .

Originally posted by: gopi2929

What I don't understand is how every thing comes down to the day Neil died. The answer to every thing is "Abhimanyu kicked AK at her lowest when she was in pain". Let it be established that most of the people agree that Abhimanyu was extremely insensitive and irresponsible on the so called "white day" but that does not absolve AK totally. She was doing a good deed and circumstances led go this huge mishap. However, AK thinks she never-ever makes any mistakes and is always right. Agree she has a mind of her own and has right to consent. However so do others. But for AK that does not count...only her opinions matters. She did not have to agree with every thing Abhimanyu said and mostly she did not. But then she has to accept that others can disagree with her too..which was a huge dent to her ego.

I personally don't think she should have been offended if Abhimanyu asked her to stay out of his family matters. It's a decent expectation and don't see why it cannot be respected

Regarding feotus vs adult kids .... let's not even get there. Very sensitive and very controversial statement so I abstain for making any more comments on that.

However all of AK deeds cannot be justified based on that one incident. It's not like AK didn't do lot of other things like Hit and run. What AK is portraying now is "pot calling the kettle black"

Adult kids is an oxymoron. There are either kids or adults.

Whether that absolves Akshara of anything or not, she was a victim of domestic violence.on WD. Shrouding domestic violence in euphemisms like emotional outburst, trauma, sadness, insensitivity allows for the false equivalency to be made between Akshara's alleged mistakes and the abuse she went through.

(Adding this for reference where verbal abuse, economic abuse is defined as domestic abuse https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_of_Women_from_Domestic_Violence_Act,_2005)

Whether she made any mistakes or had any realisation for the same, it doesn't give her spouse or in-laws the right to abuse her as a punishment. Her mistakes or realisation thereof do not oblige her to rationalise, justify, or forgive acts of domestic violence perpetrated against her.

"I was wrong" doesn't lead to "therefore my ex was right to falsely accuse me of murder" lol