Bollywood CC # 104 - Page 59

Originally posted by: Blueberry94

s1 reported her post dunno.clearly

@bollyqueen I have no idea which post etc. I been here to know what’s going on. I just happened to check the CC and was tagged on Maroons post and saw she was inactive just 20 minutes after she posted on maroons topic.



regarding other then this platform no I don’t have contact.

https://twitter.com/badassflowerbby/status/1667137527915122689?s=20

https://twitter.com/FilmUpdates/status/1667173216417193988?s=20

Originally posted by: wat_up

nyc impacted the most.

Stay safe 👍🏼

Do you really wanna get scrappy ? 😃

https://twitter.com/i/status/1666317188943233026

Originally posted by: Haegeum

https://twitter.com/FilmUpdates/status/1667182119855030276?s=20

Rooting for Barbie .

Low-key disappointing openings for both

Originally posted by: NatkhatPyare

Propaganda news for today 👇

https://www.jagran.com/uttarakhand/uttarkashi-nawab-trapped-hindu-girls-in-love-trap-by-becoming-guddu-befriended-through-online-gaming-23435608.html

Google translate English link 👇

https://www-jagran-com.translate.goog/uttarakhand/uttarkashi-nawab-trapped-hindu-girls-in-love-trap-by-becoming-guddu-befriended-through-online-gaming-23435608.html?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en-GB&_x_tr_hist=true

First and Foremost the Name Guddu, he used. That's a nickname. Surprised at his choice of name.

I was just talking to a friend some days ago as to why this is called Love Jihad. It should be called Love Inducement. So that it is better understood or even Love Entrapment.

Jihad, is a different word, with a different meaning altogether. Basically 'a struggle or fight against the enemies of Islam'.

The Hindu sisters are not an enemy of Islam and neither are the Sikh sisters or Christian sisters.

To explore the word Jihad in more details.

'Jihad” literally means striving, or doing one’s utmost. Within Islam, there are two basic theological understandings of the word: The “Greater Jihad” is the struggle against the lower self – the struggle to purify one’s heart, do good, avoid evil and make oneself a better person. The “Lesser Jihad” is an outward struggle. Jihad constitutes a moral principle to struggle against any obstacle that stands in the way of the good. Bearing, delivering and raising a child, for example, is an example of outward jihad, because of the many obstacles that must be overcome to deliver and raise the child successfully. Jihad may also involve fighting against oppressors and aggressors who commit injustice. It is not “holy war” in the way a crusade would be considered a holy war, and while Islam allows and even encourages proselytizing, it forbids forced conversion. In Islamic tradition, the form of jihad that involves fighting requires specific ethical conditions under which it is permissible to fight, as well as clear rules of engagement such as the requirement to protect non-combatants. Scholars have compared Jihad that involves fighting to the Christian concept of “just war.'

As for these people hiding their faith and lying

Taqiyya is an Arabic word that means to hide your faith in times of persecution in order to protect your life and family. It does not allow one to deceive and lie. Muslims are allowed to practice Taqiyya when open declaration of their faith leads to death and torture.

A similar teaching can be found in Judaism: Maimonides, one of the great Jewish Torah scholars, taught that one is allowed to lie about one’s religion in order to save one’s life, and many Jews who were forcibly baptized in medieval Christian Europe engaged in the same kind of practice to protect their lives and remain committed to their faith. Given the very restricted contexts in which such behaviour is allowed in both religions, it would be wrong to accuse Islam or Judaism of actively encouraging believers to deceive others.

So unless it's under these circumstances, they are not allowed to conceal their faith.

So what these guys are doing is a major sin within their own faith. That is not a true Muslim or proper faith practising Muslim. This is far far away from any religious action. They are just a bunch of miserable, evil and pathetic people.

They are criminals and should be identified according to their sins and deeds and not from their ethnic background or identified by their faith.

Not only do these people cause issues for other races and communities but disgrace for 'Muslims' community because of how they are identified and it poses a negative reflection on faith instead.

A bit like when kids who are naughty get asked, 'Kaun si school jaathe ho? Kiya school mein yahi sikha they hain?'.

It is NOT the school teaching them this, The problem is with the child itself, or has not being properly educated on things for x,y,z, reasons.

The above is just my random thoughts and explanations. Just mental notes.

I genuinely want to understand something NK. Three days in a row - there have been 3 cases that I have seen, that you have shown us.

1. Is this happening everyday?

2. Is this happening in a certain part of India or everywhere equally?

3. Is the persuasion to convert pressure only one side - Hindu to Muslim or Muslim to Hindu as well?

4. Are the minors in the certain areas being educated within community groups and meetings, Or residential area meeting about these dangers?

5. Are schools educating them, colleges and Uni's about internet safety?

6. Has Prime Minister, taken action to put in some funding to help eliminate this issue.

7. Any ides you want to share, Anything you have done to help minors stay safe?

https://twitter.com/NicholasPas5/status/1667210483076612097?s=20

Originally posted by: carisma2

First and Foremost the Name Guddu, he used. That's a nickname. Surprised at his choice of name.

I was just talking to a friend some days ago as to why this is called Love Jihad. It should be called Love Inducement. So that it is better understood or even Love Entrapment.

Jihad, is a different word, with a different meaning altogether. Basically 'a struggle or fight against the enemies of Islam'.

The Hindu sisters are not an enemy of Islam and neither are the Sikh sisters or Christian sisters.

To explore the word Jihad in more details.

'Jihad” literally means striving, or doing one’s utmost. Within Islam, there are two basic theological understandings of the word: The “Greater Jihad” is the struggle against the lower self – the struggle to purify one’s heart, do good, avoid evil and make oneself a better person. The “Lesser Jihad” is an outward struggle. Jihad constitutes a moral principle to struggle against any obstacle that stands in the way of the good. Bearing, delivering and raising a child, for example, is an example of outward jihad, because of the many obstacles that must be overcome to deliver and raise the child successfully. Jihad may also involve fighting against oppressors and aggressors who commit injustice. It is not “holy war” in the way a crusade would be considered a holy war, and while Islam allows and even encourages proselytizing, it forbids forced conversion. In Islamic tradition, the form of jihad that involves fighting requires specific ethical conditions under which it is permissible to fight, as well as clear rules of engagement such as the requirement to protect non-combatants. Scholars have compared Jihad that involves fighting to the Christian concept of “just war.'

As for these people hiding their faith and lying

Taqiyya is an Arabic word that means to hide your faith in times of persecution in order to protect your life and family. It does not allow one to deceive and lie. Muslims are allowed to practice Taqiyya when open declaration of their faith leads to death and torture.

A similar teaching can be found in Judaism: Maimonides, one of the great Jewish Torah scholars, taught that one is allowed to lie about one’s religion in order to save one’s life, and many Jews who were forcibly baptized in medieval Christian Europe engaged in the same kind of practice to protect their lives and remain committed to their faith. Given the very restricted contexts in which such behaviour is allowed in both religions, it would be wrong to accuse Islam or Judaism of actively encouraging believers to deceive others.

So unless it's under these circumstances, they are not allowed to conceal their faith.

So what these guys are doing is a major sin within their own faith. That is not a true Muslim or proper faith practising Muslim. This is far far away from any religious action. They are just a bunch of miserable, evil and pathetic people.

They are criminals and should be identified according to their sins and deeds and not from their ethnic background or identified by their faith.

Not only do these people cause issues for other races and communities but disgrace for 'Muslims' community because of how they are identified and it poses a negative reflection on faith instead.

A bit like when kids who are naughty get asked, 'Kaun si school jaathe ho? Kiya school mein yahi sikha they hain?'.

It is NOT the school teaching them this, The problem is with the child itself, or has not being properly educated on things for x,y,z, reasons.

The above is just my random thoughts and explanations. Just mental notes.

I genuinely want to understand something NK. Three days in a row - there have been 3 cases that I have seen, that you have shown us.

1. Is this happening everyday?

2. Is this happening in a certain part of India or everywhere equally?

3. Is the persuasion to convert pressure only one side - Hindu to Muslim or Muslim to Hindu as well?

4. Are the minors in the certain areas being educated within community groups and meetings, Or residential area meeting about these dangers?

5. Are schools educating them, colleges and Uni's about internet safety?

6. Has Prime Minister, taken action to put in some funding to help eliminate this issue.

7. Any ides you want to share, Anything you have done to help minors stay safe?

Carisma, for the first part of your post, I truly believe that if Muslim community themselves learn about the true meaning of different terms and verses then many of the things happening will stop happening and no one would need to point their fingers at one specific community.

For ex. Zakir Naik is considered a very knowledgeable person about Quran. His talks had MASSIVE gatherings. Even his videos are still used for facilitating conversions but just see what he says about the verse 9:5 of Quran. If followers of Islam are going to learn that meaning then definitely they are going to do wrong. But the worst part is- Zakir Naik is not alone. There are many many more like him.

I believe that the responsibility of imparting correct knowledge of Islam to its followers lies on the muslim community itself. Unless Muslims themselves don't follow the correct and true meaning of Islam it won't be much use of teaching other communities the true meaning of Islam or its verses or terms.

As they say - Action speaks louder than words.

Regarding the 2nd part of your post

1. Almost everyday. I'll post today's news in the next post.
2. Some places more than others.
3. There's 'ghar wapasi' (coming back to their previous religion) of the converted too.
4. I think, after TKS, this has started but still at the family level. Parents are becoming aware.
5. I don't think so.
6. Not that I know of.
7. Ignorance is bliss but that bliss can land you in trouble later. Better to be aware of the ways of the world to protect yourself and your loved ones. That's the way to go. Plus imparting knowledge about your own religion from childhood is also absolutely necessary. So that children can know the answers of atleast basic questions asked to them by children/ people of other religion. If parents are themselves ignorant what will they teach their children!

P.s. it's nice that we can talk in a civilized manner regarding too but I'm sure this post of mine will be reported too. Anyways jisko jo karna hai kare. 😔

Propaganda news for today 👇

(Newspaper name, date, edition and page no. Visible in the screenshot itself - Dainik Jagran, 10 June 2023, Lucknow edition)

This incident is from Prayagraj and again mobile game, along with influence from friends, was used to target minor for brainwashing and conversion.