MyThoughts- Epi948

Very beautiful episode.

Jimmedari: Nilamma and AbhiN have very few scenes together since the leap overall, but the duo aces it everytime.

They are nobody to each other but still everybody to each other. There bond is prestine. When they were in focus, I was thinking of AbhiM, Manjiri.They are real mother- son duo but still so toxic. The talk between Nilamma and AbhiN is talk in any middle class house hold.Mostly the doting gradmas tell their sons hurrying to marry the daughter off, " और थोडे दिन मजा करने दे. बाकी बाद मे तो जिंदगीभर जिम्मेदारी उठानी है |" AbhiM's expressions was amazing.. With a frown he kind of said, " क्या पका रहे हो ". The guy does not know what Jimmedari is..रुहीकी जिम्मेदारी कितने दिनसे फोनपेही निभा रहा है..

Her footsteps: AbhiN without even turning his head could sense AK's foot steps and started talking. That scene stole my ❤️. But, he did not recognize KV's footsteps. He knows AK in and out. Same with AK. When Abhir made wrong family chart, she had started talking to AbhiN without even looking at the door.

KaiRan: Nilamma is naive but AbhiN is wise as he has faced the world alone. He is seeing what even AK is not seeing at this point. AbhiN was so correct in his observation about KV and MK. Contrary to AK's allegations, he was rather thinking for both. KairAn have hardly given time to understand each other. It is more of infatuation from MK's side and for KV, MK is his pain reliever. I do expect a roller coaster ride for KaiRan. They LOOK so good together, but will they FEEL good together? I don't think so. MK is new AK, as she thinks about whole family, and KV in last six years has rarely given thought to his whole family.

Respecting the choice: I also liked how AbhiN respected KairAn's decision by saying, if you two have decided why you are asking me? He even respected Abhir's choice. He said to AbhiM, "Abhir yaha se kahi nahi jayega kyunki yaha reheneka faisala usane liya hai". Each time, he has respected AK's decision as well of staying back. Going forward, if Abhir makes a different choice, that would be respected too.

AbhiN-AK: After seeing how well AbhiN gets people by little interaction with them, I only can fathom love he has for AK. He knows AK as a person in and out and still loves her for what she is. Loving the person with all the flaws has depth of a sea wheras loving the idea of person (thinking that the person is perfect or will become perfect) is like pursuing the mirage. As I hv said in previous post, AK is not there yet. She still gets influenced by the idea of love (which is colorful but transient) than real love (which monochromic, routine but stable). However, I like (till now), how AK and AbhiN know where to stop. The way AK got AbhiN to talk, by giving him his stuff, was supercute.

AbhiM is just begani shadi mei abdulla deewana.AbhiN told him in the hospital' दुसरी की पत्नी के बारे मे सोचना सेहत के लिये हानिकारक है "Still indirectly he was indirectIy hitting on AK. He was not even engaged then, but now he is. I did not feel his was a neutral talk, he wanted AK to know that she still holds place in his heart. But what else you can expect from AbhiM the great..

I am really fond of your episode summaries. I agree with almost everything, except for some things which I think are a matter of perspective. With this episode, I really think the idea is which love is better and, more importantly, which love people believe in. I think it's clear that Ak, Abhi, and Kaaian all believe in a grand love story that crosses all boundaries. But Abhinav thinks that such love isn't meant for normal people like himself and Muskaan. Moreover, he thinks that such love always leads to pain, like in Ak's case. Before, also he mentioned that he will never give her a grand love story, and she accepted that and said she doesn't want it.

But.....I feel like she definitely still wants it. She blames Abhi and his decisions or the circumstances for their issues but still believes in her true love with Abhi. Even Abhi believes that he messed up but that everyone should get their true love.

I personally do believe in true love. I don't think people should try to change each other to fit any kind of image, and I don't think Abhira were doing that. I think they came across some terrible circumstances, I think they were young and didn't communicate properly, and mostly, I think they allowed their worst instincts to overtake their relationship ( Abhi more than Ak).

But more importantly, I think any love makes you feel so special that it becomes a great love story. Even if there isn't any conflict, even if the two people understand each other, the special wali feeling has to be there. That is what I think Nav isn't getting. He thinks that love is just caring for someone, understanding them, giving them space, etc. But love is also about making the other person feel special. And from Nav's end, I really think he has tried with Ak. But the simple fact that neither one of them feels theirs is a grand love story makes me depressed. It's barely a love story at all.

Liked your post (minus) Abhi bashing. 😊

Sorry, I like a lot of things in Abhinav but the reasons for not accepting Kairav seem hypocritical. Like he is okay with Akshara hiding from her family - not keeping them informed even when both her and Abhir’s lives were in danger after delivery - not attempting to meet her family for 6 years - but he can have a happy married life with her!

Yes Goenka’s didn’t worry for her when they should have - but its not like Akshara did any better in managing her relationships. If he can accept Akshara, I find it odd that he would oppose Kairav - not saying he should simply agree - but give some time to both Muskan and Kairav to see if they can handle disagreements and understand each other’s backgrounds. That would be mature - unlike all other weddings they have shown so far - where people simply jump into the marriage without a proper courtship period!

Originally posted by: lagjagale

I am really fond of your episode summaries. I agree with almost everything, except for some things which I think are a matter of perspective. With this episode, I really think the idea is which love is better and, more importantly, which love people believe in. I think it's clear that Ak, Abhi, and Kaaian all believe in a grand love story that crosses all boundaries. But Abhinav thinks that such love isn't meant for normal people like himself and Muskaan. Moreover, he thinks that such love always leads to pain, like in Ak's case. Before, also he mentioned that he will never give her a grand love story, and she accepted that and said she doesn't want it.

But.....I feel like she definitely still wants it. She blames Abhi and his decisions or the circumstances for their issues but still believes in her true love with Abhi. Even Abhi believes that he messed up but that everyone should get their true love.

Yes. Completely agree. I wrote a whole post on part of AK still wanting it.

I personally do believe in true love. I don't think people should try to change each other to fit any kind of image, and I don't think Abhira were doing that. I think they came across some terrible circumstances, I think they were young and didn't communicate properly, and mostly, I think they allowed their worst instincts to overtake their relationship ( Abhi more than Ak).

But more importantly, I think any love makes you feel so special that it becomes a great love story. Even if there isn't any conflict, even if the two people understand each other, the special wali feeling has to be there. That is what I think Nav isn't getting. He thinks that love is just caring for someone, understanding them, giving them space, etc. But love is also about making the other person feel special. And from Nav's end, I really think he has tried with Ak. But the simple fact that neither one of them feels theirs is a grand love story makes me depressed. It's barely a love story at all.

I love different POVs so liked yours too.. I think love has infinite faces. Few years back I used make a guess ( unintentionally) which relationships would work and which would not, but all my guesses failed. Bickering couples sailed through wheras not so bickering parted ways silently. I realized that there is no one rule for all in love. It is not what is on the surface that all people see that matters, but what core values two people share that matters.

AbhiM kind of love or AbhiN kind of love is the choice one can make. AbhiN kind of love is boring, routine, but little up and downs wheras AbhiM's is intense, but with roller coaster ride. It all depends on what one wants in their life. As AbhiN rightly pointed out today, neither KV is bad nor MK, but they do not share core values and most probably do not have the strength to accomodate the non- similar aspects of eo personalities.

I open to any ship, but want the third wheel to remain in Abhir's life as a guardian at least.

Originally posted by: MyThoughts

I love different POVs so liked yours too.. I think love has infinite faces. Few years back I used make a guess ( unintentionally) which relationships would work and which would not, but all my guesses failed. Bickering couples sailed through wheras not so bickering parted ways silently. I realized that there is no one rule for all in love. It is not what is on the surface that all people see that matters, but what core values two people share that matters.

AbhiM kind of love or AbhiN kind of love is the choice one can make. AbhiN kind of love is boring, routine, but little up and downs wheras AbhiM's is intense, but with roller coaster ride. It all depends on what one wants in their life. As AbhiN rightly pointed out today, neither KV is bad nor MK, but they do not share core values and most probably do not have the strength to accomodate the non- similar aspects of eo personalities.

I open to any ship, but want the third wheel to remain in Abhir's life as a guardian at least.

I agree that love has infinite faces, but I think the most important one of them is that most people would agree that their love story is incredible - if they had one. Even if you go for an arranged marriage, where love blossoms after a while, it is still a grand love story. My point was that you don't need some great issues to make your love great. If you are with a special person, they are special to you, and so life isn't boring. The fact that for Akshnav, the way they describe their relationship is like this makes it hard to believe they are happy in it. I am not just talking about Ak but also Nav.

It seems like Nav doesn't think he deserves a grand love story - because he is middle class. Which is something I strongly disagree with. I feel like Nav is also settling in his relationship with Ak. And settling has a very different vibe than being in love and being on a journey together.

Originally posted by: DevilsHeart

Sorry, I like a lot of things in Abhinav but the reasons for not accepting Kairav seem hypocritical. Like he is okay with Akshara hiding from her family - not keeping them informed even when both her and Abhir’s lives were in danger after delivery - not attempting to meet her family for 6 years - but he can have a happy married life with her!

Yes Goenka’s didn’t worry for her when they should have - but its not like Akshara did any better in managing her relationships. If he can accept Akshara, I find it odd that he would oppose Kairav - not saying he should simply agree - but give some time to both Muskan and Kairav to see if they can handle disagreements and understand each other’s backgrounds. That would be mature - unlike all other weddings they have shown so far - where people simply jump into the marriage without a proper courtship period!

I think its cause Nav didn't actually know everything about Ak. I believe if he knew the full backstory of who she is and where she came from, and her history with Abhi - he wouldn't have agreed to be the father. We see this multiple times when he questions her. When Abhi first visited itself, he was amazed that Abhi wasn't some kind of monster who hated Ak and her kid. Then when Nav visited the Goenkas, he was also amazed that these people were so wealthy and so loving.

So for him, he married a woman who had no support system like himself. He saw that similarity between them. Plus, he didn't really marry her, so he always had an out in that relationship. Emotions weren't involved. Now it's been six years, and emotions are involved plus, Abhir is at an impressionable age, so things are different. On the other hand, Muskaan loves Kairav, so if he hurts her, she will get broken.

I was just discussing this yesterday with Sanju to understand if Neelama and Muskaan are related by blood or they are just another bond of hearts. Based on Us chachi, it seems that Muskaan ke bhi khoon Khandaan ka ata pata nai hai...

I always knew that Abhinav knew Muskaan and parivaar from way before he met Akshara but I was surprised to know that their relationship went way back to childhood.

I really love their relationships because it's wholesome. Based on the way they stand up for each other - and it's not just Abhinav worrying for Muskaan, remember a scene where she too stood up for her BhaiJi -

https://twitter.com/Treasure__CA/status/1657268462652383233?t=qGZfCY61FguHjM0wLw0K7Q&s=19

In that sense, Abhinav does have complete say in their rishta, it maybe less than Neelama but definitely a big role! I am so much in agreement that Neelama decided to support and desupport KaiRan based on Abhinav's response.

AkshNav used to have nth level of transparency, but ever since Akshara has started taking step towards their rishta, hiding and lying are once again being her key characteristic. So, I am not gonna talk about that side of endgame...

KaiRan ka rishta, I think they are growing on me but @sereneworld - I don't think they are like AbhiRa, though makers are forcing that perspective.. But Abhimanyu was rather little overboard while trying to get Akshara to admit her feelings whereas KaiRan just gave each other the space - though I think that was just to show family involvement and bring in those Unrequited discussion on 2nd chances - but they are quite different.

Kairav and Abhimanyu comparision has been going on since like forever, but I tend to disagree because he seems to have developed it for limited period due to circumstances whereas Abhimanyu's is more psychological and part of his core characteristic.

@MyThoughts Kairav does love and care for his family, I don't know why is it felt he didn't? When MJ started discussing Abrohi he jumped in to oppose since day 1 and went ahead to find better match for her and all 😆 like me, he is just antiAbhimanyu... But he dearly loves his family.

Abhimanyu and Kairav had one ofnthe stupidest scene imho... He is literally not needed in any discussion, decision or party... Except for with Arohi.. 😆

Originally posted by: MyThoughts

Very beautiful episode.

Jimmedari: Nilamma and AbhiN have very few scenes together since the leap overall, but the duo aces it everytime.

They are nobody to each other but still everybody to each other. There bond is prestine. When they were in focus, I was thinking of AbhiM, Manjiri.They are real mother- son duo but still so toxic. The talk between Nilamma and AbhiN is talk in any middle class house hold.Mostly the doting gradmas tell their sons hurrying to marry the daughter off, " और थोडे दिन मजा करने दे. बाकी बाद मे तो जिंदगीभर जिम्मेदारी उठानी है |" AbhiM's expressions was amazing.. With a frown he kind of said, " क्या पका रहे हो ". The guy does not know what Jimmedari is..रुहीकी जिम्मेदारी कितने दिनसे फोनपेही निभा रहा है..

Her footsteps: AbhiN without even turning his head could sense AK's foot steps and started talking. That scene stole my ❤️. But, he did not recognize KV's footsteps. He knows AK in and out. Same with AK. When Abhir made wrong family chart, she had started talking to AbhiN without even looking at the door.

KaiRan: Nilamma is naive but AbhiN is wise as he has faced the world alone. He is seeing what even AK is not seeing at this point. AbhiN was so correct in his observation about KV and MK. Contrary to AK's allegations, he was rather thinking for both. KairAn have hardly given time to understand each other. It is more of infatuation from MK's side and for KV, MK is his pain reliever. I do expect a roller coaster ride for KaiRan. They LOOK so good together, but will they FEEL good together? I don't think so. MK is new AK, as she thinks about whole family, and KV in last six years has rarely given thought to his whole family.

Respecting the choice: I also liked how AbhiN respected KairAn's decision by saying, if you two have decided why you are asking me? He even respected Abhir's choice. He said to AbhiM, "Abhir yaha se kahi nahi jayega kyunki yaha reheneka faisala usane liya hai". Each time, he has respected AK's decision as well of staying back. Going forward, if Abhir makes a different choice, that would be respected too.

AbhiN-AK: After seeing how well AbhiN gets people by little interaction with them, I only can fathom love he has for AK. He knows AK as a person in and out and still loves her for what she is. Loving the person with all the flaws has depth of a sea wheras loving the idea of person (thinking that the person is perfect or will become perfect) is like pursuing the mirage. As I hv said in previous post, AK is not there yet. She still gets influenced by the idea of love (which is colorful but transient) than real love (which monochromic, routine but stable). However, I like (till now), how AK and AbhiN know where to stop. The way AK got AbhiN to talk, by giving him his stuff, was supercute.

AbhiM is just begani shadi mei abdulla deewana.AbhiN told him in the hospital' दुसरी की पत्नी के बारे मे सोचना सेहत के लिये हानिकारक है "Still indirectly he was indirectIy hitting on AK. He was not even engaged then, but now he is. I did not feel his was a neutral talk, he wanted AK to know that she still holds place in his heart. But what else you can expect from AbhiM the great..

Abhinav Akshara relationship should be regarded as any couple’s goal. The understanding between them is amazing. I think time for Ak to make her final choice is fast approaching .

Regarding AbM, he is acting like a catalyst who will either make or break Akshanav. He is using this rift to score some points against AbN and may foster misunderstandings between the couple.

It’s highly likely that Abhinav may feel that Akshara still has feelings for Abhimanyu and decides to leave, forcing Ak to confront her feelings.

Originally posted by: SereneWorld

Agree with this 100%. Abhi has a huge heart vs mind issue, and his responsibilities end up being cages he has to break through for him to be happy. There are definitely other options he can do, but his family itself often pushes him to make these decisions. As to why Abhinav doesn't face the same issues I have some ideas :

1. Nav doesn't have a family and so no big family-related responsibilities until now (not a big point, but still valid)

2. Nav is happy with settling, while Abhi always wants it all. This is a much bigger thing, I think. Nav grew up not having a lot, and he himself keeps his expectations low so when he does get things in life, he is overjoyed. It's a common trait for low-middle-class people. Nav has said that he doesn't deserve things like a grand love or even Ak on multiple occasions. So even if Nav wants things, he doesn't think that makes him deserve them.

Abhi, on the other hand grew up wealthy and getting everything he ever wanted - usually by sheer force of will. Even for things he didn't get, he kept fighting for - like his mother's happiness or respect from his father. So Abhi really thinks he deserves everything he wants. He moreover thinks that God itself is on his side and will make the path for him to get what he wants. It's huge main character energy, to say the least. With all of this, any responsibility can become a chain because he will always want more and always think he deserves more.

Even with Ak, he loved her but wanted her to love him back as much as he deserved, which she was just not able to do. It's seen from the beginning. Ak is way more grounded and like Nav in this case, but she still wants a lot of the same things as Abhi.

3. Nav always wanted a family, while Abhi was always trying to run away from his. So for Nav the responsibilities are also like treats cause he never had them and having them makes him feel like he belongs. For Abhi he always had responsibilities from a very young age to protect his mom and brother. Its a lot for a little kid and will have an impact on how they handle relationships in the future. I am not saying Nav has never faced issues, of course he has probably a lot bigger than Abhi, but also very different from Abhi.