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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Medha_Sree

Is it on aswathama r fiction ? is it bolly director ? If so better they don’t touch it . Everything they spoil .
Take in Telugu with nice director n release pan india .

Yes it’s Bollywood’s only but I am pretty sure that Arjun will reject, I mean where’s the time? He’ll finish Pushpa2, then start Trivikram next, then do Sandeep Reddy Vanga movie, this already looks like he’s busy till 2025, then how can he take Aswathma?

I hope he rejects, please I don’t want him to do this

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: MiVida_Messi


Ohh do both are part of same triology novels?
Actually I don’t have any idea about the mythology or novels

It’s neither the mythology or novels. It’s the ancient history of the Subcontinent.

Edit: yes. He should absolutely reject this. We have seen what Om Raut is doing to Ramayan. Bollywood doesn’t have it in them to tell a good story right now.


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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: loginidran

It’s neither the mythology or novels. It’s the ancient history of the Subcontinent.

I thought it’s some triology on lord shiv 😲

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: MiVida_Messi


Ohh do both are part of same triology novels?
Actually I don’t have any idea about the mythology or novels



Eklavya was gaslit into chopping off his own thumb by Dronacharya for the sake of Arjun because Dronacharya didn’t want anyone but Arjun to be the greatest at archery.


Ashwatthma slaughtered Arjun’s kids later on. “Allu Arjun” can play Ashwatthma. It is of no concern to me.




Alll characters from Mahabharat.


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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: MiVida_Messi

I thought it’s some triology on lord shiv 😲

Mahabharata.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Supari_khala



Eklavya was gaslit into chopping off his own thumb by Dronacharya for the sake of Arjun because Dronacharya didn’t want anyone but Arjun to be the greatest at archery.


Ashwatthma slaughtered Arjun’s kids later on. “Allu Arjun” can play Ashwatthma. It is of no concern to me.




Alll characters from Mahabharat.


So Ashwatthma is a grey character I’m assuming. Bit whatever you said sounds so interesting though, they’ll have to cast three men for Dronacharya, Eklavya and Ashwathma

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: MiVida_Messi

So Ashwatthma is a grey character I’m assuming. Bit whatever you said sounds so interesting though, they’ll have to cast three men for Dronacharya, Eklavya and Ashwathma

Eklavya doesn’t have to be a part of Ashwathama’s story though because he has had no connection with Ashwathama, only with his dad and no one else not even Arjuna. His dad literally squashes him off just so that he won’t become a threat to the Hastinapur (current Delhi) empire.

Ashwathama starts off as a positive character then somewhere in the middle becomes a grey character and finally ends up as a cursed negative character.


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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: MiVida_Messi

So Ashwatthma is a grey character I’m assuming. Bit whatever you said sounds so interesting though, they’ll have to cast three men for Dronacharya, Eklavya and Ashwathma



If I remember my Mahabharat correctly, I think Ashwatthama was cursed by Krishna to roam around the world for eternity because he killed the Pandav sons. I think that’s where “immortal” comes in. Eklavya was way before any of this so don’t think his character would feature here.


Yes, Mahabharat is interesting. So many stories, not enough time and nobody other than the original series from back in the early 90s has done justice to it.


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Originally posted by: Supari_khala



If I remember my Mahabharat correctly, I think Ashwatthama was cursed by Krishna to roam around the world for eternity because he killed the Pandav sons. I think that’s where “immortal” comes in. Eklavya was way before any of this so don’t think his character would feature here.


Yes, Mahabharat is interesting. So many stories, not enough time and nobody other than the original series from back in the early 90s has done justice to it.


If they want to show the human side of Ashwathama they can include Eklavya because according to one of the stories Ashwathama confronts his dad about Eklavya and if he loves Arjuna so much that he would sacrifice his own son if it comes to that.

Yes MB is very interesting. So many stories, so many hero’s, so many negative and grey characters. Every story has several sides and viewpoints. Ufff, it’s an endless saga.



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Posted: 2 years ago
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here’s an interesting story of Aswathama death(false news) lead to Drona’s fall


The Fall of Drona: “Aswathama Hatha, Iti Narova KunjaRova”




After Bheesma’s death, Dronacharya became the commander in chief of Kaurava army. Dronacharya is an formidable warrior who must be removed to secure victory for Pandavas.

Krishna told Pandavas that it is impossible to get rid of Drona, so long he is armed. Drona is the only warrior in battlefield who has Brahmastra and Divyastra, even the gods cannot fight with him. Only Arjuna can counter his weapons but not remove him, Arjuna being his favorite student.

Hence, Drona can only be pacified when he is unarmed.

Krishna

In today’s battle, nobody can defeat acharya Drona. The only way to remove Drona is to convince him that his son, Aswathama is dead. Acharya Drona has only one weakness – his son. If he believes that his son is dead, he will drop his weapons and then we can get rid of him.

Arjuna

I beg your pardon. But I cannot use unfair means to kill my teacher and I do not want to win this war at the cost of incurring a sin.

Krishna

Who are you to win or lose this war? Your dharma is to fight against Adharma, so just do the task given to you. Don’t do imaginary analysis of the result, because you have no control over the result

Arjuna

But I cannot kill my teacher using unfair means. This is something I will not do since this is a violation of the “Guru- Shisya” pact.

Krishna to Yudhisthir

If there is anyone who can help Dharma today, it is you. You are the epitome of Dharma and Righteousness and hence Dharma is looking upto you for an answer. Ironically, you will have to tweak Dharma to restore it. Will you help?

Yudhisthir

If no other way to restore Dharma is open, I will carry the weight of this sin on my shoulders.

Krishna to Bheema, pointing towards an Elephant

Do you know the name of that Elephant?

Bheema

I do. His name is Aswathama.

Bheema goes ahead and kills the Elephant. Then he moves to the center of battlefield and announces that he had killed Aswathhama.

A distressed Drona, refused to believe him. He turned towards Yudhisthir.

Drona

I have not come here to seek your blessings, O Yudhisthir. I have come here for the truth. Is it true that my son, Aswathama is no more?

Yudhisthir

Aswathhama hatha (and then he murmured) iti Narova Kunjarova

Yes Aswathhama is dead (and then he murmured). I don’t know if its a man or an Elephant.

A shaken Drona lost the will to fight. He listens with half ear and lost the will to live. He dropped his weapons and sat down in deep meditation. His soul went on in a journey across the heavens in search of Aswathama’s soul.

Krishna

This is the moment of truth. It’s now or never, we must act now and kill him.

But Drona is a teacher and a renowned Brahman. To kill a Brahman is the greatest sin of all. “Brahman-hatya” is a sin which has no penance and hence, none of the soldiers could gather the courage to kill an unarmed Brahman who has laid down all his weapons and is meditating.

Krishna

He is Brahman by birth but a Khastriya by Karma. He had taken the path of a Khastriya for vengeance against his friend Drupad. He lived as a Khastriya for wealth, power and recognition. Had he been a real Brahman, he would have won his anger over Drupad and forgiven him. But No, he did not. He has lived all his life training princes of the royal clan, so he can use them for his personal vengeance. He has already achieved his vengeance by killing Drupad earlier this morning.

Look at him. His soul has already left the body in search of his son’s soul, Aswathama. Hence, there is no killing, just the decapitation of a lifeless body. There is no crime in beheading him now, for he is a barrier to Dhrama.

Dhristyadhumna, the commander in chief of Pandava army, jumps from his chariot and beheads Drona.

When Aswathama learned the death of his father, he went outraged and released a dangerous weapon – “Narayana-astra”. This weapon can never be stopped by any other weapon and anybody who tries to counter this weapon would certainly die.

Yudhisthira

Now that Aswathama has fired Narayanastra, we are all going to die.

Krishna

Just drop your weapons and salute it. This weapon will do no harm if you do not counter it.

On the instruction of Krishna, all the soldiers dropped their weapons except Bheema. Bheema hurled his mace and ran towards Aswathama and since he was armed, the Narayanastra enveloped him. Krishna ran for rescue and pulled the mace from his hands. The Narayanastra withdrew, since it would not harm anyone who was not armed and hostile.

Aswathama could not use Narayanastra since it can be used only once.

The grief of Arjuna and vengeance against Dhristyadhumna

Arjuna was the favorite student of Drona and he could not bear his Guru’s death. He jumped from his chariot and ran towards Dhristyadhumna in an attempt to kill him.

Arjuna

I will not forgive you Dhristyadhumna for unfairly killing my Guru Dronacharya. I know you are my brother in law but I have to do the duty of a student first. You are a coward who has killed a Brahman when he is unarmed. I am Dron Shisya Arjuna and it is now my duty to kill the murderer of my Guru.

Krishna

Hey Parth, you are not attacking your brother in law. You are not attacking the murderer of your Guru. At this point in time, you are attacking the commander in chief of your army. You are attacking the commander in chief of the army that is fighting for Dharma. You are just a part of this army and in this battlefield, you have no right to attack your commander in chief. You do not have the authority to attack him. As far as personal vengeance is concerned, you can sort it out outside this battlefield but so long you are in this battlefield and Dhristyadhumna is the commander in chief of your army, you will have to abide by his orders. Hence, go back to your chariot.

When the war finished for the day, Arjuna becames restless and plans to kill Dhristyadhumna. This is when Draupadi comes to the rescue

Draupadi

My brother has not commited any crime. Why are you so restless?

Arjuna

Nobody in this planet holds the right to kill my guru using unfair means. So long as I am alive, so long Gandiva is in my hands, Mahadev ki saugandh, I cannot let the murderer of my Guru remain alive.

Draupadi

Hey Sharvashrestha dhanurdhar Kunti Putra Arjuna, I am that same Draupadi who was dragged to the court. I am that same Draupadi who was humiliated and attempted to be disrobed infront of your Guru, Drona. He was there and he was quiet, he did not even protest once.

If you cannot protect your own wife and punish the person who sits in the court and observes the practice of Adharma with deaf ears, please do not try to be an obstruction in the path of other people who do it. He may be a guru to you but to me, he is just a coward. He is the coward who led the army that killed your son Abhimanyu, when he was unarmed.

You are his favorite student and you seek vengeance against my brother Dhristyadhumna. Please wait. Let this war be over. Let all the Adharmiks die first and let me get my vengeance which I deserve. Let me tie my hair first. Let Bheema fulfill his vow first.

Once I have received my vengeance, you can work towards getting your vengeance by killing my brother. So long as I am your wife and my hair does not get the blood of Dushashana and Duryodhana’s thigh is not broken, you have no right to seek vengeance against the commander in chief of the army which is working towards your wife’s vengeance that she deserves. You have no right to overshadow Bheema’s vow. Let us seek what we deserve, you can fulfill your personal enmity later.

During the cremation ceremony of Drona, Aswathama pledges to become the reason for the destruction of entire Pandava clan, which he later fulfilled by firing his Brahmastra towards Uttara’s womb.


https://www.quora.com/What-does-Aswathama-Hatha-Kunjaraha-mean


IMO among the directors we have now, only SS Rajamouli can do justice to these characters of Mahabharat

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