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Posted: 2 years ago
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Today's episode was...something, but one thing that I can say is that it precisely showed why it is so important for Sai and Savi to leave the house. The reason's the same for why it Sai and Virat's relationship was toxic even before their 'divorce'. The thing is Virat is a wonderful person, husband, and father when things are going smoothly, but the moment things start to go downhill, he loses it in a way that is sometimes physically harming, and always mentally scarring.

Think of all the times he and Sai fought. When they were together, they were together. They were happy and contented, and all was well. But when they fought, it was always not just messy but straight-up toxic. From forcibly holding her wrists so hard and for so long that it left a bruise, to throwing her out of the house at night with nowhere to do, to locking her in a room, and finally to being so unapologetically rude to her that she herself felt unwanted and left the house. Virat always took a step out of line in his anger, and more often than not, it resulted in Sai getting harmed.

Initially, while it was controversial, it wasn't that big of an issue because Virat was always quick to realise his fault and he tried his best to make up for it, but as the story went forward, these actions became not just more frequent but more dangerous and harmful. How many times have Sai been in the hospital because of him, and how many times has he done things that were nothing short of gaslighting?

I myself have written an OS that highlighted all the ways his action to lock Sai in a room was wrong. Those reasons are not as valid in the current scenario, but it still doesn't change the fact that it is wrong.

And I personally can understand just how traumatizing something like this can be because I went through something similar when I was a child. Of course, I won't go into much detail, I don't remember it much myself for I was fairly small, but I do remember that it was a huge fight that involved not just my parents but also the whole house (I lived in a joint family), and someone (I don't even remember who) locked my mother and me along with her in a room. My mother was banging on the door. She wasn't crying because she was not that scared, just angry, but for me, those 10-15 minutes of being locked up with everyone shouting were pure torture. I don't remember anything else, but I still remember the feeling of pure terror. In fact, it was my inconsolable crying which in the end broke the fight.

Now, even after that one incident, I don't have a single doubt about the love my parents and family has for me, and I did grow up in a fairly non-toxic and happy household (apart from few instances), but that fear will always be ingrained in my mind. If I am even an ounce happy today, it is because of the love they showered on me, but that won't change the fact that their one misstep will always haunt me.

But more importantly, such happiness cannot be guaranteed with Savi. She is not in a house where her mother is fully accepted, and everyone has the best interest of the other in mind, but a house that is full of angry, hurt, and insecure adults. And Virat is not a shield that can protect her. In fact, more often than not he will be the one causing the most pain. And unlike before, this time Sai will not be the only one who can potentially get hurt.

I know this show is just for entertainment and these things are not to be taken seriously...and I don't. But since I have always tried to relate the abuse shown in the serial to the potentially harmful impact it can have on a real individual, I thought it was only fair that I continued to do so here too.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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I agree with every word you wrote - both for this story and for real life
Cannot imagine the trauma you faced as a child but yes these extreme events & violence leave a terrible mark 💕 thank goodness your family is loving and well meaning, it hurts to think of innocents suffering.

In my eyes this show is fundamentally a tragedy about the mistakes we humans make and how it becomes impossible to recover from them, the damage that cannot be repaired … and Virat is the tragic hero with fatal flaws that destroy him and all around him.


this story could actually turn to gold in the hands of Shakespeare or the ancient Greek dramatists, its got that much potential!

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Virat has attacked freedom of Sai several times it's just Sai's guts that she breaks every shackles of Virat and the reason she is called fierce,no matter to where she returns she doesn't let person walk over her at that moment


Not everyone can do that.


Virat is literally confining them in a room and savi can surely witness her aai being worried and almost in tears, tho they might not show savi processing it but it's indeed traumatising to talk in real life.

Savi has witnessed the scars of Virat's hold on Sai's hand but Sai never told who gave them.


They need to bring a potential track of kids questioning their so call baba for the I'll treatment he gives to Sai despite claiming he loves her.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Brilliantly written ❤


That's the thing

Sai will not be the only one at the receiving end of Virat's toxic behaviour.

Their relationship has always been a toxic one and Sai has suffered umpteen times. But now there are kids involved. Unfortunately the innocent child would inevitably have faced the consequences too if ever Sai didn't take the step that she will soon take.

Sai might have handled herself somehow but the child would have been traumatised if she were to see these daily toxic fights of her parents living in that house together


The child has to be taken in a safer environment

And yes, they should be made to question the behaviour of their father. Can't just brush it under the carpet like this.

It's understandable that right now, Savi is kind of under the spell of her 'baba love'. But as the days pass, she should see through him.

And it's very sad that in the fights of the elders, children are the collateral damage

It's indeed fiction but can't endorse or encourage such things

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Posted: 2 years ago
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I'm sorry about your real experience. Its definitely scarring. which is why I found it SO problematic for them to show Savi looking chilled out, to see V saying- Savi wont be scared because Sai is with her. And for family to just say a few words but do nothing. Ninad is an ex army man. He is bending to Vs manipulation though. he could have snatched the key and said I dont care to make you any damn promises and freed Sai and Savi. This degree of BS being tolerated by all the elders is too much. The fact that Sai will have to climb out of the window for a second time is not funny or entertaining to watch.

This kind of content is absolutely triggering and just a disclaimer or saying its a fictional show or saying some crap about - oh evil will be punished or wait for the plot to unfold does not make it acceptable. either they should omit such objectionable content or if they show it they need to have serious consequences- even exaggerated- where Sai files a police complaint and strict action is taken because a law enforcer like V is being shown in this poor light.if they can do OTT drama for other things, they should show OTT drama to punish such a heinous act

Not only is this cruelty and inumane, but it can have serious mental and physical impacts. People get scared and claustrophobic in closed spaces. they can have a panic attack. its complete indignity.

V sitting outside the door and do some ridiculous uthak baithak doesnt absolve him of the crimes he is committing in the name of "love" and desperation right now. if he cannot be mature and handle the issue like an adult, an IPS, a father of two- then he needs to be given a few more slaps and be shown taken to task

This narrative of making him bechaara by makers and normalizing his abusive behavior is despicable

And the reaction of a section of audience treating all of these kind of things as a joke, or forgetting it all to root for Sai V together despite multiple blatant acts of physical abuse (not to mention countless instances of not so apparent harm) and actually justify his behavior as being out of mental illness or desperation of love and call him a majboor guy, or root for Savi to stay with a man like this- it is appalling. mental illness is not an excuse to behave inhumanely. and people already have enough misconceptions about the spectrum of mental illness. Just coz you are depressed or anxious doesnt mean you can get away with anything saying its out of "psychological illness/strain". some lines cannot be crossed.

my problem actually isnt even with the content they show- its about the casual attitude and how this is all forgotten and the abuser is whitewashed, glorified, made bechaara. they are so clever that they include a small 2 second clip of V thinking- oh I need to do this for the sake of keeping Sai/Savi here- to make it look as if he is apologetic when he really isnt and show 2-3 furnitures of CN say pointless lines like- oh this is not appropriate and thats their fall back. so if anyone complains- they will say- see we said this was not appropriate and save their ass.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: velvetscarf

I agree with every word you wrote - both for this story and for real life
Cannot imagine the trauma you faced as a child but yes these extreme events & violence leave a terrible mark 💕 thank goodness your family is loving and well-meaning, it hurts to think of innocents suffering.

In my eyes this show is fundamentally a tragedy about the mistakes we humans make and how it becomes impossible to recover from them, the damage that cannot be repaired … and Virat is the tragic hero with fatal flaws that destroy him and all around him.


this story could actually turn to gold in the hands of Shakespeare or the ancient Greek dramatists, its got that much potential!

Honestly, the show's entire plotline is so good. It has such impactful characters and storyline, but unfortunately, the makers only care about unnecessary drama.

Virat used to be my most favourite character. Initially I loved his flawed personality. He was someone whom I couldn't straight up point at and say he is perfect, but someone whom I cannot hate either. But then his character took a massive blunt, and it all got ruined. But even now, in moments like these, I cannot help but actually start loving his character. Not in the sense that he is right, but that he is interesting.

Like you said, he is a tragic hero.

The issue with this show, however, is that they continue to force the leads to be good, even if they are shown to do the complete opposite. If they just accept that they are showing a negative and toxic person, then this show could be so much more.

I would love to see more of Virat like this, but I don't wish for it to be brushed under the carpet, and be without consequence, just like everything else.

Edited by ShipIsSailing - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: The_aliciaa

Virat has attacked freedom of Sai several times it's just Sai's guts that she breaks every shackles of Virat and the reason she is called fierce,no matter to where she returns she doesn't let person walk over her at that moment


Not everyone can do that.


Virat is literally confining them in a room and savi can surely witness her aai being worried and almost in tears, tho they might not show savi processing it but it's indeed traumatising to talk in real life.

Savi has witnessed the scars of Virat's hold on Sai's hand but Sai never told who gave them.


They need to bring a potential track of kids questioning their so call baba for the I'll treatment he gives to Sai despite claiming he loves her.

Unfortunately, everything they ever do, every mistake they ever make, is rendered unimportant. Like you pointed out, Sai is a marvelous character with a bold and strong personality, but they treat her strength as the only personality trait she has. She is strong, so, she can face literally anything and not shed a tear. They are doing the same with Savi too. Since they already showed Vinu 'weak' they are now turning Savi into such a strong child, that she is always calm and understanding. No child can be that understanding and that mentally strong at such a young age. More importantly, they shouldn't have to be that strong.

And now it will be even worse if they show Savi being an issue with Sai and Satya, because that would be just too convenient. You mean to tell me, that this innocent little girl, can stand and understand and bear all the pain she witnessed her mother go through, wipe away all her mother's tears, but now, suddenly she became a child who cannot accept another person for her mother's peace of mind?

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Posted: 2 years ago
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V is quite immature emotionally, he needs to first learn how to handle tough situations first, then think about raising a family.

Khud bhi emotionally and mentally messed up, dusre ka bhi waise he band bajaata hai. Pehle Khud ke sort out kar lena chahiye usne, phir dusro ko involve karna chahiye

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Dsha

Brilliantly written ❤


That's the thing

Sai will not be the only one at the receiving end of Virat's toxic behaviour.

Their relationship has always been a toxic one and Sai has suffered umpteen times. But now there are kids involved. Unfortunately the innocent child would inevitably have faced the consequences too if ever Sai didn't take the step that she will soon take.

Sai might have handled herself somehow but the child would have been traumatised if she were to see these daily toxic fights of her parents living in that house together


The child has to be taken in a safer environment

And yes, they should be made to question the behaviour of their father. Can't just brush it under the carpet like this.

It's understandable that right now, Savi is kind of under the spell of her 'baba love'. But as the days pass, she should see through him.

And it's very sad that in the fights of the elders, children are the collateral damage

It's indeed fiction but can't endorse or encourage such things

Had Sai not come back, Vinu would be forever scarred, thinking of a person as a witch and always fearing that she break his family. Savi could develop a similar problem if she is left unsupervised. That house, and those people, no matter how good they think of themself, no matter how 'dil ke acche' they are, but they are not child-friendly. That house is chalta phirta mental trauma.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Nja91

I'm sorry about your real experience. Its definitely scarring. which is why I found it SO problematic for them to show Savi looking chilled out, to see V saying- Savi wont be scared because Sai is with her. And for family to just say a few words but do nothing. Ninad is an ex army man. He is bending to Vs manipulation though. he could have snatched the key and said I dont care to make you any damn promises and freed Sai and Savi. This degree of BS being tolerated by all the elders is too much. The fact that Sai will have to climb out of the window for a second time is not funny or entertaining to watch.

This kind of content is absolutely triggering and just a disclaimer or saying its a fictional show or saying some crap about - oh evil will be punished or wait for the plot to unfold does not make it acceptable. either they should omit such objectionable content or if they show it they need to have serious consequences- even exaggerated- where Sai files a police complaint and strict action is taken because a law enforcer like V is being shown in this poor light.if they can do OTT drama for other things, they should show OTT drama to punish such a heinous act

Not only is this cruelty and inumane, but it can have serious mental and physical impacts. People get scared and claustrophobic in closed spaces. they can have a panic attack. its complete indignity.

V sitting outside the door and do some ridiculous uthak baithak doesnt absolve him of the crimes he is committing in the name of "love" and desperation right now. if he cannot be mature and handle the issue like an adult, an IPS, a father of two- then he needs to be given a few more slaps and be shown taken to task

This narrative of making him bechaara by makers and normalizing his abusive behavior is despicable

And the reaction of a section of audience treating all of these kind of things as a joke, or forgetting it all to root for Sai V together despite multiple blatant acts of physical abuse (not to mention countless instances of not so apparent harm) and actually justify his behavior as being out of mental illness or desperation of love and call him a majboor guy, or root for Savi to stay with a man like this- it is appalling. mental illness is not an excuse to behave inhumanely. and people already have enough misconceptions about the spectrum of mental illness. Just coz you are depressed or anxious doesnt mean you can get away with anything saying its out of "psychological illness/strain". some lines cannot be crossed.

my problem actually isnt even with the content they show- its about the casual attitude and how this is all forgotten and the abuser is whitewashed, glorified, made bechaara. they are so clever that they include a small 2 second clip of V thinking- oh I need to do this for the sake of keeping Sai/Savi here- to make it look as if he is apologetic when he really isnt and show 2-3 furnitures of CN say pointless lines like- oh this is not appropriate and thats their fall back. so if anyone complains- they will say- see we said this was not appropriate and save their ass.

This is so wonderful! You pointed out every issue I have with such tracks

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