What's behind global rise of Rajamouli? - Page 3

Originally posted by: atominis

Very very well reasoned, well argued post and well thought out arguments.

It makes sense.

His films are indeed unique and larger than life. Transport you to another world and characters are powerful. I mean Bahubali has each character so headstrong and well fleshed out.

Eega was totally unique concept too.

I have not watched RRR yet but I am surprised at its popularity.

I do agree his films are different from usual chiffon sarees and dance in Swiss Alps that Bollywood has to offer. And they are also not as preachy as say, typical Aamir films.

He seems to have managed to entertain audience and send them to world of fantasy and made that fantasy believable.

I think a certain old world charm in his films works better for him compared to more futuristic S. Shankar. Those kingdoms, kings, queens or period drama elements and themes inspired from Mahabharat or Ramayan, or folk lore, make his films more enticing.

I agree about his stars too. NTR Jr and Ram Charan have behaved very classy, decent and not wannabe at all unlike Ash, Anil, PC when they went abroad. And no attempts to sound pseudo intellectual or flaunt so called wit. NTR Jr put up an accent but it was not as fake as Anil or PC. The humility and disciplined demeanour are attractive.

@ Bold: I have a theory around that too. I'm Canadian. I have no Indian accent. But Americans have trouble understanding us as well at times because we don't have that drawling accent. I feel like a heavy Indian accent would have gone over their heads. So NTR Jr and Ram Charan adapted their tone to something that they felt Americans would understand better.

I do feel that they were different than Anil or PC or DP. Anil I still kinda understand. He got a chance to appear in a British film. He adapted. But PC and DP became wannabes. They literally wanted to sound like that's where they were born and raised. And an accent is not enough to do that.

Originally posted by: Rocky.Bhai

very easy to make fun of a masterpiece ryt

Yeah I put in my time to watch it. If I’m not satisfied I will let it be known

Originally posted by: pathaka

I’ve seen rajamoulis work throughout the years right from his first film in 2001-2002 to now …I can’t say I’m a fan of all his films but his biggest asset is he improves by leaps and bounds with each film …

His graph in terms of skill, scale , vision and success has always been upwards ….he’s never stayed stagnant or regressed as far as I saw in his career ….he’s always gone from strength to strength

Some of his earlier films had shoddy vfx , vulgarity, some didn’t have a good second half, he was bad at filming comedy, song sequences and romantic sequences …and he just worked on each piece of criticism and improved (despite all those films being blockbusters ) …he never seemed to take his success for granted and “relaxed”…

Many “masala hit” filmmakers have either regressed, fallen off the radar or stayed where they are with no improvement (prabhu Deva, sajid khan , rohit shetty , Farah khan )…because none of them pushed themselves to improve the way rajamouli did …Shankar was doing great till endhiran….and post that he’s never hit the same highs again…

i agree with this,

i have the same opinion, i used to like the bits and pieces of his movies before and he always had the art of storytelling or elevation, but didnt like the crassness

he has worked on improving with every movie both business wise and creatively, which i dont think any filmakers have actively done

example: there is shark scene in chatrapathi which was heavily trolled for his vfx, he made eega to improve on it, even bb the last scene was trolled, he enhanced everything in rrr which hit the mark

he first got sudeep a kannada actor to enhance his market there, then he expanded to tamil with bb making it bi lingual but luckily bb also made it pan india.

bb 1 was criticised for its female depiction, crass song, he cut it out in bb2 and in rrr he took out all the needless songs and romance, which is also why it worked in the west.

bb has a better story and it is a movie which brought back that genre which is why indians like it, but rrr is more well made technically, no uneccessary scenes, songs etc which is why west (for whom the story is also new) liked it more

he keeps moving ahead with each movie and is not complacent and luck favours the brave

also he is able to balance art with commerce

even producers like yrf or dharma thanks to the indian diaspora, from south asian countries, middle east etc have huge market never tried to expand to newer markets or even focus on small town india, they became complacent with success

even south, hindi films have never focussed, in fact hrithinks movies, maine pyar kiya, hahk did very well in south, but they never put the effort to build

only now brahmastra tried some promotion

what is stopping a hindi film from becoming a pan india hit is the south market, south films have cracked the hindi market but not vice versa

basically rajamouli is willing to go to any lengths if it benefits his movie, he has no ego in that

i also heard some marketing guy say he got them to run market surveys in small indian towns to decide on what to focus in the rrr posters, where it says from maker of bb

Originally posted by: vcs17

i agree with this,

i have the same opinion, i used to like the bits and pieces of his movies before and he always had the art of storytelling or elevation, but didnt like the crassness

he has worked on improving with every movie both business wise and creatively, which i dont think any filmakers have actively done

example: there is shark scene in chatrapathi which was heavily trolled for his vfx, he made eega to improve on it, even bb the last scene was trolled, he enhanced everything in rrr which hit the mark

he first got sudeep a kannada actor to enhance his market there, then he expanded to tamil with bb making it bi lingual but luckily bb also made it pan india.

bb 1 was criticised for its female depiction, crass song, he cut it out in bb2 and in rrr he took out all the needless songs and romance, which is also why it worked in the west.

bb has a better story and it is a movie which brought back that genre which is why indians like it, but rrr is more well made technically, no uneccessary scenes, songs etc which is why west (for whom the story is also new) liked it more

he keeps moving ahead with each movie and is not complacent and luck favours the brave

also he is able to balance art with commerce

even producers like yrf or dharma thanks to the indian diaspora, from south asian countries, middle east etc have huge market never tried to expand to newer markets or even focus on small town india, they became complacent with success

even south, hindi films have never focussed, in fact hrithinks movies, maine pyar kiya, hahk did very well in south, but they never put the effort to build

only now brahmastra tried some promotion

what is stopping a hindi film from becoming a pan india hit is the south market, south films have cracked the hindi market but not vice versa

basically rajamouli is willing to go to any lengths if it benefits his movie, he has no ego in that

i also heard some marketing guy say he got them to run market surveys in small indian towns to decide on what to focus in the rrr posters, where it says from maker of bb

Yep I mean if I see student no 1 and see RRR I honestly can’t believe this is the same filmmaker ….in all his earlier films ….he’d do exeeedingly well in drama and intense action scenes …and those scenes used to give such a high the films legit became hits coz of that (chatrapathi for eg became a hit solely coz of the 45 mins b4 interval …yamadonga and magadheera became hits purely coz of those 45 mins …of period drama/mythological drama…vikramarkudu again for the 40 min flashback with vikram rathod)

Then the rest of the film with crappy comedy, crass romance and badly done songs was just 😒😒…

Good thing he realised that……..Eega was the first time that 45 min block high became a full blown movie….then again with baahubali and rrr…as u rightfully said he cut down on nonsense and focused on what he did the best ….

What happen to Shankar ?

exactly, he is able to zero in on what worked in his earlier movies and keeps working on that and discarding the rest but at the same time he doesnt stick to a genre because it is successful.

he could have as well made bb type movie again but he didnt, he has the same style (over the top, masala, whatever you call it) but puts it in different settings with mythology mixed in

another thing is he has a huge family who are all in films (writing, music etc) and i have heard interviews of them (his wife, cousin etc), they are all quite opinionated and independent. his wife was saying that he gets trolled the most at home, they all tear apart his movies. i think that maybe helps, the support he gets but the also the criticism which keeps him grounded. he is no one man success, they are all behind him

We Indians are lucky to have such talented people---

Best wishes to him

The tremendous success of Baahubali has got him the fame. He has a unique way of storytelling and knows how to keep audience engaged.

Even OTT scenes (his first few Telugu movies) seem believable the way he presents them. That's what Hollywood directors do.

Originally posted by: Pinkboots

I don't think other than NRIs any global audience is actually aware of this guy or his ott n larger than life movies

Personally I haven't been able to watch a single rajamouli movie for more than 10-15 mins despite my best efforts.

But they say RRR is liked worldwide

It's popular in America not just among Indian-Americans but other hyphenated Americans and Non-Hyphenated Americans as well

It was among the Top 10 films in 57 countries including US, Brazil, Germany, United Kingdom, Italy, South Africa, Australia and UAE.

It's the highest grossing Indian movie in Japan

For two consecutive weeks, the film was watched for more than 25.5 million hours on Netflix

Originally posted by: maha15

We Indians are lucky to have such talented people---

Best wishes to him

He is one in 1.417 billion