TERE BIN -Yumna Zaidi-Wahaj Ali DT#5 (Geo) "Mere Saath hi Lagalo, DIL" - Page 23

Originally posted by: spnfan

Murtu can do no wrong and meerab should make a fool out of herself to highlight murtu's mahanta.

The writers have zero creative talent.

Just saw kuch ankani and in it the gf of saif don't have any sort of hate or dislike for samiya even though samiya is gonna marry her bf because she has the braincells to understand it's not the other woman's fault that her bf is spinless and his mother is a gold digger.

Here we have haya that hates on meerab blindly when she herself witnessed how hard meerab tried to stop the wedding and the consequences she faced because of that.

And this is really ridiculous to see this. Even before meerab came into picture, murtasim clearly rejected all Haya's advances . He clearly shown his hate towards Haya's shamelessness. But damn for haya it is all meerab's fault

Nd more pathetic is one side they show this family is conservative nd other side they tolerate Haya's nonsense. No one stops her, not even murtasim.

I feel their all restrictions/rules are limited to meerab only ...

Originally posted by: FieryLioness

And this is really ridiculous to see this. Even before meerab came into picture, murtasim clearly rejected all Haya's advances . He clearly shown his hate towards Haya's shamelessness. But damn for haya it is all meerab's fault

Nd more pathetic is one side they show this family is conservative nd other side they tolerate Haya's nonsense. No one stops her, not even murtasim.

I feel their all restrictions/rules are limited to meerab only ...

The drama is filled with lazy writing. It's a hit solely because of the leads and the promotions they are doing. Geo is good at promoting their dramas compared to hum and ary.

Every single character in this show are a bunch of hypocrites including the leads.

Haya is such a one dimensional villain. It's like her character discription is psycho lover. There is nothing more or less to that😆.

I dont think the makers are trying to make Meerub look bad or portraying Murtasim as perfection personified here. Infact, they are very well written grey characters and credit to both the actors for dishing out such nuanced performances, Wahaj in particular. Its beacuse of these grey shades, people are questioning certain elements and narratives and that where the maker's hit the bull's eye!

The setting of a story is very important,as it not only helps to clarify the theme it also helps us understand a character's worldview through how they think about their surroundings. I as a viewer cant expect Meerab to behave like me and then criticize her for being the way she is (reckless , dumb at times BUT she is not WRONG) or neither can I expect Murtasim to behave like a normal bloke(like this cute n sweet Salman in Kuch ankahi).Is he a TOXIC guy? No but he is no saint either.

Murtasim- Though the infamous SLAP seems out of character but coming to think of it its not all that 'out of character'. When Meerab starts spewing venom and calls him a coward,it provoked a visceral reaction from him. And these viscreal feelings are very instinctive and are not the result of thought! Hence we got to see the instant shame n guilt on his face. The makers here did not try to justify it/normalise it and also did not attempt to change his agression or his control freak nature after this incident, which I apppreciate! This guy is selectively progressive,is nothing like the Maliks but still is part of the status quo-izzat,revenge,panachayat and God knows what not! An emergence of a wife one fine day is not going to change his years of mindset.He is good at heart,far more matured with tough responsibilities! It's not him,it's us who thinks he is the bad guy here and the same goes for Meerab too. We need to cut her some slack.

Meerab- She is the exact opposite of Murtasim! The only reality for her is the ideal world that she was living in at her parent's place all these years.She is idealistic,impractical and a little naive too where like most of us,she believes she can change age old customs in a day. Her actions up until now are all totally justified! Her dreams have been brutally crushed,she's been physically and emotionally abused and she's also been uprooted..let's not forget that! so how do we expect her to behave sanely? She agreed to this marriage to take revenge against this family for the very reason and started redirecting all her anger towards Murtasim.He's been her punching bag from the very beginning!

This is not not Meerab vs Murtasim but a fight against 2 different idealogies. They both have their flaws and their reasons for it are also justified. At the end of it all, there can be only one winner and that's a no-brainer :) BUT am more interested in their journey not the end-result! Marriage,many believe,is a 50-50 realtionship..it sounds good but it doesnt work!Most of the time its either 40/60 or 30/70 but that's ok as long as he realizes that he cant treat Meerab like a Haya or a Mariyam and she also needs to realize that she cant fight her battles alone and its ok to lean on him!

They both are diamterically opposed but will need each other to co-exist,he is the Yin to her Yang! When was the last time we saw such diverse protagonists(with equally brilliant performances) in PTV? I guess that is what is making me forget and forgive all the other caricaturish arcs/performances of the other supporting actors(but I am beginning to like Anwar's character growth though :) )

Like someone rightly said-

They will fall,break,fail BUT THEN

they will eventually rise,heal and overcome !!

Originally posted by: NINALOGY

Exactly Yhm even broke many stereotypes, Initially it was so good. Chemistry between leads was on point and storyline was actually good. Raman's one liners were too good. Tho It supposed to be a finite series but they just ruined the show by useless dragging, generation leap, marriage tracks etc

YHM was one of those shows where I really wanted the leads to get together. I still remember they were the couple I actually started writing RPF on. Then I had a friend who worked at star plus who told me DT & K don’t get along at all. 😆😆😆 I was quite a fangirl

Murtasim turned out a lot better character and person than I thought he would.

Meerab is the way she always was - not bad. She was never shown as the most intelligent person, given her antics throughout the drama, like the not-so-intelligent fish fiasco or confronting the abuser in public from ep 1/2 with the victim instead of informing the authorities.

Meerab's recent blunders are consistent with her characterization.

As the story progresses and different situations are presented, the flaws in certain characters are further highlighted, like in the case of Meerab (the opposite is true for Murtasim). Meerab's recent actions like taking out the bullets, doing the opposite of what Murtasim tells her, and not trusting Murtasim to make the correct decision, are very consistent with the Meerab we know.

This is not a negative. We don't need people who always make the correct decision or behave the way they would be expected to. However, if these faults in characters are acknowledged in the drama later on, it would be even better.

Originally posted by: arshi1983

I dont think the makers are trying to make Meerub look bad or portraying Murtasim as perfection personified here. Infact, they are very well written grey characters and credit to both the actors for dishing out such nuanced performances, Wahaj in particular. Its beacuse of these grey shades, people are questioning certain elements and narratives and that where the maker's hit the bull's eye!

The setting of a story is very important,as it not only helps to clarify the theme it also helps us understand a character's worldview through how they think about their surroundings. I as a viewer cant expect Meerab to behave like me and then criticize her for being the way she is (reckless , dumb at times BUT she is not WRONG) or neither can I expect Murtasim to behave like a normal bloke(like this cute n sweet Salman in Kuch ankahi).Is he a TOXIC guy? No but he is no saint either.

Murtasim- Though the infamous SLAP seems out of character but coming to think of it its not all that 'out of character'. When Meerab starts spewing venom and calls him a coward,it provoked a visceral reaction from him. And these viscreal feelings are very instinctive and are not the result of thought! Hence we got to see the instant shame n guilt on his face. The makers here did not try to justify it/normalise it and also did not attempt to change his agression or his control freak nature after this incident, which I apppreciate! This guy is selectively progressive,is nothing like the Maliks but still is part of the status quo-izzat,revenge,panachayat and God knows what not! An emergence of a wife one fine day is not going to change his years of mindset.He is good at heart,far more matured with tough responsibilities! It's not him,it's us who thinks he is the bad guy here and the same goes for Meerab too. We need to cut her some slack.

Meerab- She is the exact opposite of Murtasim! The only reality for her is the ideal world that she was living in at her parent's place all these years.She is idealistic,impractical and a little naive too where like most of us,she believes she can change age old customs in a day. Her actions up until now are all totally justified! Her dreams have been brutally crushed,she's been physically and emotionally abused and she's also been uprooted..let's not forget that! so how do we expect her to behave sanely? She agreed to this marriage to take revenge against this family for the very reason and started redirecting all her anger towards Murtasim.He's been her punching bag from the very beginning!

This is not not Meerab vs Murtasim but a fight against 2 different idealogies. They both have their flaws and their reasons for it are also justified. At the end of it all, there can be only one winner and that's a no-brainer :) BUT am more interested in their journey not the end-result! Marriage,many believe,is a 50-50 realtionship..it sounds good but it doesnt work!Most of the time its either 40/60 or 30/70 but that's ok as long as he realizes that he cant treat Meerab like a Haya or a Mariyam and she also needs to realize that she cant fight her battles alone and its ok to lean on him!

They both are diamterically opposed but will need each other to co-exist,he is the Yin to her Yang! When was the last time we saw such diverse protagonists(with equally brilliant performances) in PTV? I guess that is what is making me forget and forgive all the other caricaturish arcs/performances of the other supporting actors(but I am beginning to like Anwar's character growth though :) )

Like someone rightly said-

They will fall,break,fail BUT THEN

they will eventually rise,heal and overcome !!

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You explained them very well.

I have just one issue in this whole scenario and it is that with his character trait murtasim shown some feelings for meerab which isn't the case with meerab.

Don't want her to go gaga over him but subtley she can also be have some feelings or attatchment to murtasim.

And secondly I don't agree with just one point that one will win,I don't think so its always about some changes on both side and some adjustments to certain things on part of both becoz its not that its only both of them,its a society in which they are living.

Frankly I am just eye rolling at the director’s whole he is like a Robin Hood and he is going to show us how to balance zar zameen aur whatever… in the end the fact that he says this is a story of a man, then I am sorry we will not get any story arc for the woman or we will get it through the lens of a man.

I will be really honest here….this is no love story of equals. Love story of opposites can still be shown as love story of equals. To be able show us how two opposites can achieve equal status in a relationship needs to have both point of views. We are constantly only culminating with Murtasim’s point of view.

Again, I don’t want to spend too much time analyzing this show, simply because right from the beginning I realized this at least for me isn’t worth intellectualizing. I don’t think the director is crafting deep meaning into their actions or character development. It’s very episodic writing, situational, very masala hero driven, it would be like me trying to intellectually breakdown the movie Race, I want to enjoy Murtasim’s shawl… buss! .

Originally posted by: Nephy1

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You explained them very well.

I have just one issue in this whole scenario and it is that with his character trait murtasim shown some feelings for meerab which isn't the case with meerab.

Don't want her to go gaga over him but subtley she can also be have some feelings or attatchment to murtasim.

And secondly I don't agree with just one point that one will win,I don't think so its always about some changes on both side and some adjustments to certain things on part of both becoz its not that its only both of them,its a society in which they are living.

" I don't agree with just one point that one will win"- Correct. Eventually, 'Love will conquer all' - I was trying to imply this :)

Originally posted by: Sera-high123

https://twitter.com/saiyaaraaa/status/1629523286995398657?t=Bv6NGND8POzy1RREICmJrw&s=19

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I was drinking water while watching this,..ma kasam I spat it all over my iPad…..haddddh hai….saaf kar rahi hun mai abhi iPad ko…..Kuch warning hi de dete.

Originally posted by: spnfan

Pyaar mein self respect bhool kyu jathe hai?

She is nowhere at fault for the accident but the makers show her to be guilty for it and crying over it.

Yeh self respect kya hoti hai baiiiiii

Self is only understood as ego that only men can have and if women have, they are brats. Respect for others which include elders, husband and husband’s elders.

yeh kya sensible questions aur baatein ho rahi hai yaha pe…

Time pass nako karo!!!!