Is "Crying" a sign of weakness?

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Posted: 2 years ago
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I am not a fan of sumbul but I definitely don't support the narrative like those who cry are weak and should not come in BB .

BB is a reality show and I guess people of different personalities are welcomed in the show.

I hv seen people defending Priyanka's loud voice and appreciating her fighting skills by calling it a "voice of strong opinionated woman" I agree priyanka is definitely a strong woman . The way she handles criticism is applause worthy and the way she stands against her opponents makes her worthy of trophy

But if one is not as strong as priyanka and feels humiliated when gets disrespected by people atleast ten years older than her and expresses her feelings by crying then that person is treated like an object of mockery.


My concern is why our society wants to see only strength. Why those who shouts and fights are considered as strong and most importantly why one needs to be strong all the time. Why being fragile is a matter of humiliation .

I don't support sumbul in this game as she hasn't done anything great in the show and hasn't contributed much to the show but I disagree with the fact that those who can shout and are Loud deserves more respect than those who can't put their opinions firmly .

if crying is a sign of weakness then why getting loud in an argument is not a sign of weakness?

p.s : the comparison with priyanka is not because I am a hater or obsessed with her . I mentioned her only to show a contrast between two personalities where one is called "strong" and other is "weak"

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Posted: 2 years ago
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I don't think PCC considers it as sign of weakness.. She said yesterday to sumbul main bhi royi hoon.. People consider sumbul weak coz where she needs to take strong stand she doesn't, gets offended for rona comments but her father is made fun of is okay..


About PCC being strong, that's not because of her loud voice but the valid points she makes. Rote rote jhagdo but valid points rakho aur jahan sach me jaroorat hai vaha stand lo... I'm not saying PCC is flawless but 80% of time she takes stand where it's really needed & puts across valid points too...

About her being irritating, all the members now have become irritating coz they have no content left. Shiv-sum were screaming very horribly yesterday, had to mute my TV. Was not able to understand what sumbul was saying..

It's just that loud voice cannot create perception of one being strong main thing is how to counter the person you are debating/fighting with.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Uhh, its the show’s concept, they want strong personalities, agar show ka concept hota to show your vulnerability and just that, utna hi to maybe Sumbul ka alag scene hota. Crying is not wrong, anybody can get emotional, its fine to get emotional sometimes parr bas crying is also no personality to brag about. Sumbul’s problem is that she cries and just that, does not do anything beyond that to deal with the situation. For example, if someone said something about me which is very derogatory, and I cry on that tab tak thik hai, but then I do need to confront that person too. If I don’t it would look like I am just nagging behind people’s back and don’t hold the power to confront them. That’s the subtle difference between a strong and a weak personality. Strong personalities are allowed to cry or act vulnerable but at the same time they are aware of ways to confront others and make sure they are being heard. Being vulnerable in different situations is okay but the growth we show beyond our vulnerabilities is also needed to showcase our strengths. Shouting is not necessary but in that house since everybody is trying to overpower others through words it becomes an important factor.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Anything excessive is not exactly a sign of strength either. Crying moderately is normal.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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for some, its a medium of venting out n getting strong

for some, its pure acting to collect sympathy


for few, its a sign of weakness


For sumbul, it may be a mixture of last 2 bcoz if she is strong enough, she would defend to all not just pri or arch....she becomes submissive in front of few


BUT I don't blame her at all

I even don't take her seriously

she s just 19


like sajid said, she needs to send time with ppl of her age, do studies, chill, not waste her youth

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Ak47-

I don't think PCC considers it as sign of weakness.. She said yesterday to sumbul main bhi royi hoon.. People consider sumbul weak coz where she needs to take strong stand she doesn't, gets offended for rona comments but her father is made fun of is okay..


About PCC being strong, that's not because of her loud voice but the valid points she makes. Rote rote jhagdo but valid points rakho aur jahan sach me jaroorat hai vaha stand lo... I'm not saying PCC is flawless but 80% of time she takes stand where it's really needed & puts across valid points too...

About her being irritating, all the members now have become irritating coz they have no content left. Shiv-sum were screaming very horribly yesterday, had to mute my TV. Was not able to understand what sumbul was saying..

It's just that loud voice cannot create perception of one being strong main thing is how to counter the person you are debating/fighting with.

It's not about how pcc sees it . It's about how people who defends loudness and mocks crying . To me both of these things are two different ways of expressions. I personally don't think strength lies in loud voice. I believe only those who wants to prove themselves prefers to raise their voice. Secure people tends to express their opinion firmly without getting loud but that's my opinion and this show is all about fighting and taking stands so won't judge contestants over it but also I won't prefer calling someone weak who doesn't own such attributes. Hv you ever seen pcc putting her points this firmly in front of sajid or salman? No because they are older than her and one's way of dealing with people changes when it comes to people of different age group. That's the case with Sumbul. Most of them are very older than him . First they doesn't let her speak and when she collects the courage to give her opinion they fails to acknowledge it and ends up making fun of her.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: maaneetcraze

Anything excessive is not exactly a sign of strength either. Crying moderately is normal.

Every damn thing is excessive in this show . Whether it's crying, fighting or shouting . So why this selective criticism of only one way of expression and seeing one as a trait of weakness and other as a trait of strength?

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: R.G.C

Uhh, its the show’s concept, they want strong personalities, agar show ka concept hota to show your vulnerability and just that, utna hi to maybe Sumbul ka alag scene hota. Crying is not wrong, anybody can get emotional, its fine to get emotional sometimes parr bas crying is also no personality to brag about. Sumbul’s problem is that she cries and just that, does not do anything beyond that to deal with the situation. For example, if someone said something about me which is very derogatory, and I cry on that tab tak thik hai, but then I do need to confront that person too. If I don’t it would look like I am just nagging behind people’s back and don’t hold the power to confront them. That’s the subtle difference between a strong and a weak personality. Strong personalities are allowed to cry or act vulnerable but at the same time they are aware of ways to confront others and make sure they are being heard. Being vulnerable in different situations is okay but the growth we show beyond our vulnerabilities is also needed to showcase our strengths. Shouting is not necessary but in that house since everybody is trying to overpower others through words it becomes an important factor.

I disagree that this show's concept is to show your strong side . It's we , the society who only love to appreciate those who displays trait of strength and starts laughing at those who shows their vulnerable and fragile side. Different people have their different way of dealing with a situation. Some prefer to confront the people they hv problem with or some prefer not to stretch things by landing into another argument specially when the person on the other side doesn't want to hear your opinion or explanation so they prefer to vent out inorder to calm their inner selves . I don't think anyone who prefers any of of the above approach is superior or would call it a growth if sumbul decides to go back to pcc or archana again to explain herself . This is biggboss and people just want to see and appreciate a personality who can put forth her opinions strongly and can give an impression of a strong person.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: amaya01

It's not about how pcc sees it . It's about how people who defends loudness and mocks crying . To me both of these things are two different ways of expressions. I personally don't think strength lies in loud voice. I believe only those who wants to prove themselves prefers to raise their voice. Secure people tends to express their opinion firmly without getting loud but that's my opinion and this show is all about fighting and taking stands so won't judge contestants over it but also I won't prefer calling someone weak who doesn't own such attributes. Hv you ever seen pcc putting her points this firmly in front of sajid or salman? No because they are older than her and one's way of dealing with people changes when it comes to people of different age group. That's the case with Sumbul. Most of them are very older than him . First they doesn't let her speak and when she collects the courage to give her opinion they fails to acknowledge it and ends up making fun of her.

I'm also telling my pov not just PCC. Being loud is a personality trait, her way of reacting. doesnt necessarily mean that someone is insecure.

I clearly mentioned that what matters is how logical is the point you keep across. Regarding answering back to sajid then she has done it plenty of times as he was a contestant, she was both loud & polite while making point across to sajid. Her answering salman was different as he was not a contestant but the host. She considers his points coz she sadly thinks that it's job of host to give honest feedback, she doesn't suspect other intentions about creating narratives.

PCC has NOT agreed on every point that Salman has made... She tried to explain, sometimes she was shut up-ed other times she did convey her point even after salman said mujhe nahi sunai de raha... She picks up suitable advises of salman not all. About sumbul, you can cry while keeping across your point, that maybe her way of expression nothing wrong in that, but take stand when needed.

Not expecting sumbul to fight with salman, just expecting her to convey her point even if it is while crying... she could have once told sajid that she doesn't like it, he would have thought several times before passing other comments. not saying he would have stopped it completely, but would have toned it down definitely.

Salman had to take a stand for her that time too she said that she doesn't have prblm with the jokes sajid cracks, & everyone knows she was affected with them. Jo uski side le raha hai use hi muh ke bal girati hai.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: amaya01

I disagree that this show's concept is to show your strong side . It's we , the society who only love to appreciate those who displays trait of strength and starts laughing at those who shows their vulnerable and fragile side. Different people have their different way of dealing with a situation. Some prefer to confront the people they hv problem with or some prefer not to stretch things by landing into another argument specially when the person on the other side doesn't want to hear your opinion or explanation so they prefer to vent out inorder to calm their inner selves . I don't think anyone who prefers any of of the above approach is superior or would call it a growth if sumbul decides to go back to pcc or archana again to explain herself . This is biggboss and people just want to see and appreciate a personality who can put forth her opinions strongly and can give an impression of a strong person.

Italics- That’s the whole point, lol. Agreed different people deal with a situation in a different way, but staying silent even after feeling there is something wrong is not strong, sorry. If Bigg Boss was to just show your personality however it is, tab to koi winner hota hi nhi aaj tak, lol. Why do they create situations jahan people fight? Why in nominations they ask contestants to voice out things clearly? Why do they keep pushing people to play for themselves on WkV? If someone wants to play for their friend instead of themselves to wo bhi unki personality ka part hota hai na, maybe they give more importance to friendship? So why are they then called out by the host and asked to play individually? Why are people given wake up calls, despite them showing how they are in reality? Its clear BB is not a game to just show your reality, reality and game don’t go hand in hand, lol. And makers, host, creatives everybody encourage the contestants to ‘play’ their best ‘game’ ‘individually’, basically BB has a personality type in their mind when they think of whom to take further, so if you watch the show with mindset of it being about people’s reality and any kind of reality should be accepted, that’s not how the creatives wanna play. So its not just the society wanting this, this is even BB wanting this. Thats why I am saying thats not the concept of the show. Ankit was also a real personality for example, why did BB manipulate the housemates and changed the game by giving voting rights to contestants to vote him out? Because even though he was real, he was not giving what the creatives wanted. In reality, BB is a game of controversies, manipulations and fighting, people who do that move ahead, and out of that lot whosoever is has the cleanest game wins.
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