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Posted: 2 years ago
#91

Originally posted by: Viswasruti

Well said Neha, you defined it beautifully. 🤗

What is angst in fanfic is different from normal dictionary meaning.

It generally signifies that the story will be primarily dramatic in nature, rather than comedic or light-hearted, and that characters may suffer mental or physical anguish during the course of the story. These works can be very dark, but not all angsty fan works are dark fiction.

Angst is a particular genre of fan fiction.

You can’t rely on the dictionary definition of angst: a feeling of deep anxiety or dread, typically an unfocused one about the human condition or the state of the world in general.

In fanfiction, angst means a story in which one or more characters are experiencing not simply anxiety, but terrible tragedy. Perhaps a character is ill, and may be dying and all around him (or her) are grieving. Or perhaps a romantic or familial relationship is on the rocks. Perhaps a character has been unjustly accused of some terrible act.

But most of the time, whatever the angsty situation is, it is usually resolved for the better in the end. The exception might be if a character dies. But usually if that happens, they die in an uplifting manner.

Most angst stories are full of misery, but end well, and often abruptly.

@bold

This still goes with the literal meaning of the word angst.

But ML ill treating or insulting or being over possessive over the FL in name of love is definitely not angst.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#92

Everything in this world has Pros and cons. Our evolving ITV is just the same.

Over the years, I've had the pleasure of watching shows that have promoted progressive thinking. For example, love story of middle aged couple, which, as I've read, still disgust a lot of people who nurture the mentality that love is not for the old. And all they need to be loving, are their children, responsibility and social values.

Mere dad ki dulhan and Patiala babe were both excellent shows that promoted finding of the right partner at late stages of life, and focussing on these people's hearts.

There was this show- Ajeeb dastan hai yeh, where the ml fell in love but the fl didn't and both decided to remain friends, which depicted another real scenario, that feelings are not always mutual.

These brilliant concepts aside, i agree, that ITV script has become monotonous these days, and pathetically so.

There are shows that started with the tagline of women empowerment, and ended up in a ditch as soon as the said woman had a man. Since long, woman have been worshipped as some sort of healers who have this worldly responsibility of fixing everything at their expense. This glorification of women is toxic.

Also if a woman is alone- single/widowed/divorced/abused, her sufferings will end with the entry of that one person- their intended. This conveys the dependence of woman, on man.

And the.men....

*Sigh*

I will be outrightly naming that show- PARINEETI- the hell's wrong with that serial! Romanticizing a two timing man! Worst is the girl who can't take a stand for herself. And people actually dig that! Oh, heaven's!

Also the misunderstandings!! This trope, this never ending circle of mu's is soooo exasperating! And the reason?! Vile family members! Why must family be so vile?!

I've seen rude, judgemental male leads being idealized for their arrogance, and wondered, no sane real woman should fall for this type.

However, I have seen some very sensible male characters cropping up too- be it Anuj kapadia, Dev dixit, and others( which i can't recall)

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Posted: 2 years ago
#93

Originally posted by: Quantum-Dot

Oh God...this is hilarious 🤣🤣Bas kuch bhi🤬

quantum physics should help in making this real 😈

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Posted: 2 years ago
#94

Live telecast with multiple camera angles 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. CCTV camera is too old fashioned it seems🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. This is the latest technology 🤣

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Posted: 2 years ago
#95

Originally posted by: Physics_girl

Live telecast with multiple camera angles 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. CCTV camera is too old fashioned it seems🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. This is the latest technology 🤣

ye to physics hi kar sakta hai 🤣
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Posted: 2 years ago
#96

Originally posted by: DelusionsOfNeha

ye to physics hi kar sakta hai 🤣

Maine Physics issi ko invent karne k liye hi toh padhi thi. But too bad kisi aur ne pehle bana dia🥲.

Uss parlour wali didi ko scientist banna tha par mata-pita ne jabardasti parlour training mai bhej d jaldi settle hone k chakkar mai..

Edited by Physics_girl - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
#97

Originally posted by: nish_vir

Everything in this world has Pros and cons. Our evolving ITV is just the same.

Over the years, I've had the pleasure of watching shows that have promoted progressive thinking. For example, love story of middle aged couple, which, as I've read, still disgust a lot of people who nurture the mentality that love is not for the old. And all they need to be loving, are their children, responsibility and social values.

Mere dad ki dulhan and Patiala babe were both excellent shows that promoted finding of the right partner at late stages of life, and focussing on these people's hearts.

There was this show- Ajeeb dastan hai yeh, where the ml fell in love but the fl didn't and both decided to remain friends, which depicted another real scenario, that feelings are not always mutual.

These brilliant concepts aside, i agree, that ITV script has become monotonous these days, and pathetically so.

There are shows that started with the tagline of women empowerment, and ended up in a ditch as soon as the said woman had a man. Since long, woman have been worshipped as some sort of healers who have this worldly responsibility of fixing everything at their expense. This glorification of women is toxic.

Also if a woman is alone- single/widowed/divorced/abused, her sufferings will end with the entry of that one person- their intended. This conveys the dependence of woman, on man.

And the.men....

*Sigh*

I will be outrightly naming that show- PARINEETI- the hell's wrong with that serial! Romanticizing a two timing man! Worst is the girl who can't take a stand for herself. And people actually dig that! Oh, heaven's!

Also the misunderstandings!! This trope, this never ending circle of mu's is soooo exasperating! And the reason?! Vile family members! Why must family be so vile?!

I've seen rude, judgemental male leads being idealized for their arrogance, and wondered, no sane real woman should fall for this type.

However, I have seen some very sensible male characters cropping up too- be it Anuj kapadia, Dev dixit, and others( which i can't recall)

Yes, Everything in this world has Pros and cons. Our evolving ITV is just the same. wELL SAID.

Indian Television shows has become an important part of our daily lives, We link our emotions, our happiness, our sorrows, our failures, our achievements etc., with the characters of the serials. The viewer’s connect so strongly with the storyline and the characters that they become the part of their family for a few!!

In fact, Indian viewers have a typical mind set of role of males and females. Serials leave a powerful impact on the mind-set of its viewer.

The ITV serials acquired newer dimensions, greater popularity maximum wider reach, Indian television has always been about female characters, and not in the most empowering way, might I add.

To put it simply, for around two decades now, women have either been portrayed as purely evil😕, or they have been treated like beings that are capable of nothing but sacrifice😲. They only have one instinct--- to put aside their career, love, dreams, and ambitions for a friend, husband, lover, or in most cases, family. Sacrifice!! For whom???

In their bid to build below-average plots around such 'characters,' the male characters have largely been ignored. The male protagonists of popular shows have nothing to contribute to the narrative, which is worse than the manner in which makers treat their female characters.

Be it Ekta Kapoor's show Kumkum Bhagya's male lead character Abhi (played by Shabir Ahluwalia), or more recently, Sony TV's Kuch Rang Pyaar Ke Aise Bhi's Dev (portrayed by Shaheer Sheikh). They are not well-written at all, let alone developed.

Our audience is used to rooting for their heroes. Not just our audience, human beings generally look up to people if they have that one defining quality about them. A trait which sets them (the protagonists) apart, something which the viewers can get behind, to adore, or even to hate. But our writers have not been successful in creating such strong characters.

It is high time to present a strong storyline with well defined characters with specific traits to make them unique and lovable. Viewers are longing to see a gentle, subtle plot with strong characters, a message of love, family bonding, and healthy relationships, and no signs of violence.

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Posted: 2 years ago
#98

Indian serials are well-known for their over-dramatised and protracted storylines. How many reaction shots does it take really for dismay or shock to be properly communicated to an audience?😔 In a matter of mere minutes, hero's behaviour transforms from loving to abusive. She suffers the blows silently, even in her misery playing the part of the obedient, respectful wife.😲

A woman is chided by society for her loud and brash manner; background music meant to tug at one’s heartstrings accompanies the sermon they deliver about how her behaviour is unbecoming of a woman and causes everyone distress.

“You’re in love with someone?” her sister gasps. “I was under the impression that you are a good girl!”

Scenarios like these — and many others, including the normalisation of avunculate marriages or vilification of premarital romantic relationships — aren’t uncommon in Indian soaps, which primarily target female audiences. If you’ve grown up in an Indian household, chances are that you know at least one person who diligently watches a TV serial, as they are called, every night. From my sporadic, involuntary absorption into the world of television dramas, I have deduced a few things: the degree of suffering that a person undergoes is directly proportional to the “goodness” of their character, and people are either entirely good or altogether evil!!

Reinforcing gender roles on TV serials, this is particularly so in the case of Indian women, who have been conditioned to place familial interests above all else, including personal safety and well-being. The majority of these TV serials, despite being women-centric, reinforce archaic beliefs about a woman’s modesty and her place in the household and in society. Maintain your dignity, keep your head down and endure the humiliation, for that is a testament to your strength of character, they seem to say.

Edited by Viswasruti - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago
#99

Originally posted by: Viswasruti

Yes, Everything in this world has Pros and cons. Our evolving ITV is just the same. wELL SAID.

Indian Television shows has become an important part of our daily lives, We link our emotions, our happiness, our sorrows, our failures, our achievements etc., with the characters of the serials. The viewer’s connect so strongly with the storyline and the characters that they become the part of their family for a few!!

In fact, Indian viewers have a typical mind set of role of males and females. Serials leave a powerful impact on the mind-set of its viewer.

The ITV serials acquired newer dimensions, greater popularity maximum wider reach, Indian television has always been about female characters, and not in the most empowering way, might I add.

To put it simply, for around two decades now, women have either been portrayed as purely evil😕, or they have been treated like beings that are capable of nothing but sacrifice😲. They only have one instinct--- to put aside their career, love, dreams, and ambitions for a friend, husband, lover, or in most cases, family. Sacrifice!! For whom???

In their bid to build below-average plots around such 'characters,' the male characters have largely been ignored. The male protagonists of popular shows have nothing to contribute to the narrative, which is worse than the manner in which makers treat their female characters.

Be it Ekta Kapoor's show Kumkum Bhagya's male lead character Abhi (played by Shabir Ahluwalia), or more recently, Sony TV's Kuch Rang Pyaar Ke Aise Bhi's Dev (portrayed by Shaheer Sheikh). They are not well-written at all, let alone developed.

Our audience is used to rooting for their heroes. Not just our audience, human beings generally look up to people if they have that one defining quality about them. A trait which sets them (the protagonists) apart, something which the viewers can get behind, to adore, or even to hate. But our writers have not been successful in creating such- strong characters.

It is high time to present a strong storyline with well defined characters with specific traits to make them unique and lovable. Viewers are longing to see a gentle, subtle plot with strong characters, a message of love, family bonding, and healthy relationships, and no signs of violence.


That was very well put! 👍🏼🤗👍


I think "Wagle Ki Duniya – Nayi Peedhi Naye Kissey" is one such show that is light-hearted family drama without any cheap comedy and crime plots. Pushpa impossible is also a nice show.


Rest of the majority shows have the following:

- a robotic female lead who's immune to any sort of pain and loved by the audience.

- a female lead who's all talk and no action and is disliked/hated by the audience so much that they prefer the negative dark character over them 👏

- a not so postive "positive Male lead" who commits bigamy at least once. Lol

- an evil parallel lead "possibly a third angle" who's a criminal mastermind with lots of criminal contacts.

- weird part of the main characters-- "sister-in-law" who just wants to either control the family money or everything🤪

- other side characters who just gasp 😮‍💨 🤪 and enjoy the popcorn drama with their own private and secret immoral motives😃

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Viswasruti

Indian serials are well-known for their over-dramatised and protracted storylines. How many reaction shots does it take really for dismay or shock to be properly communicated to an audience?😔 In a matter of mere minutes, hero's behaviour transforms from loving to abusive. She suffers the blows silently, even in her misery playing the part of the obedient, respectful wife.😲

A woman is chided by society for her loud and brash manner; background music meant to tug at one’s heartstrings accompanies the sermon they deliver about how her behaviour is unbecoming of a woman and causes everyone distress.

“You’re in love with someone?” her sister gasps. “I was under the impression that you are a good girl!”

Scenarios like these — and many others, including the normalisation of avunculate marriages or vilification of premarital romantic relationships — aren’t uncommon in Indian soaps, which primarily target female audiences. If you’ve grown up in an Indian household, chances are that you know at least one person who diligently watches a TV serial, as they are called, every night. From my sporadic, involuntary absorption into the world of television dramas, I have deduced a few things: the degree of suffering that a person undergoes is directly proportional to the “goodness” of their character, and people are either entirely good or altogether evil!!

Reinforcing gender roles on TV serials, this is particularly so in the case of Indian women, who have been conditioned to place familial interests above all else, including personal safety and well-being. The majority of these TV serials, despite being women-centric, reinforce archaic beliefs about a woman’s modesty and her place in the household and in society. Maintain your dignity, keep your head down and endure the humiliation, for that is a testament to your strength of character, they seem to say.


Yes! Absolutely, yeah. What I think is that this industry is a sinking ship. We don't have the type of audience that we use to have way back before 2010 coz today most of the shows are basically kitchen politics and related nonsense, which doesn't interest teens or college going kids, well a majority of college going kids who're more interested in college or school drama or horror shows..same goes for a large proportion of the male audience who aren't interested in watching kitchen politics. The day is not far when this industry will be sidelined entirely by majority of online platforms coz people are bound to get bored at some point of the nonsense and illogical never ending tv shows🤪

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