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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: WhtsinAname

I did

You wrote " not guilty until proven innocent" . This doesnt make sense....because not guilty = innocent only.....so the sentence itself is wrong ....grammatically.

The actual quote goes

" guilty until proven innocent or innocent until proven guilty"


Anywys talking to you is like talking to a wall.

So please spare me🙏

I am leaving this conversation

You are free to believe whatever you like and write whatever you like ( even the sentence makes no sense). Free country. So do whatevr you like.

Bye.

Stop giving your own definition to everything. There was nothing grammatically wrong in what I said. You are one of those who wants to read what they want to read, and believe what they want to believe. Regardless of what you assume, in the eyes of the law, a person is innocent until proven guilty and not the other way. Hope you get it this time.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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India needs a better Supreme Court than the ignorant individuals who declared, "Modesty is a virtue which is inherent to a female owing to her sex; an attribute associated with female human beings as a class."


Modesty is an individual's behaviour that signals that s/he is not indiscriminately receptive to sexual gestures, comments, or touching. Modest dress, modest eye-contact, modest language, modest hand-contact ... all of it allows humans to have neighbourly, friendly, familial, or professional relationships instead of constantly having to negotiate mating. Modesty does not need to be defined as either a virtue ("chastity") or a vice ("frigidity") because assault/offense is a crime against a person regardless of the victim's character. Even a prostitute has modesty when s/he is not in a consensual sexual situation. Modesty is inherent to virtually all human beings, whether female, male, or nonbinary.


Those who value their own modesty may disrespect the modesty of others. A woman may resent one man for smiling at her, but find excuses to touch another man crudely. When a woman falsely accuses a man of outraging her modesty, sometimes her motivation is resentment that he said no to her advances.


If a man is accused of sexual assault, he goes to jail until he can get bail. His health may be permanently damaged (e.g. ulcer from jail food, HIV from rape) by the time he is released. Although there are fast-track courts for crimes against women, the complaining witness can prolong the process by delaying her own appearance in court, just to keep the man on the hook. If the ensuing trial finds that the complaining witness lied, does she go to jail while awaiting trial for perjury? Or, will she get to live her life, secure in the knowledge that trials for perjury are non-fast-track?


I don't know if the 75% of cases that the article calls "false" were actually perjury or simply not provable. Every case should be judged on the evidence and the credibility of witnesses, and unfortunately it is a common tactic to disparage a woman's sexual history to attack her credibility. Acquittal does not mean that the allegation was false.


The law should protect everyone's modesty from outrage. The law is inadequate as long as it denies justice to a class of victims (male) simply because they are outnumbered by another class (female). Without denying that females as a class are more vulnerable to rape, it is the truth that individuals with physical or mental disabilities are vulnerable regardless of sex, and many actions that outrage modesty (gestures, comments, touching) do not require one person to overpower the other.


I am a man. Several times, when I have been riding a bus or a train, women have initiated conversations with me and flirtatiously slapped my thigh without invitation. Imagine a man touching a woman that way; wouldn't you call it outraging of modesty? Should I have called the police? Did each offender deserve a year in prison?


When I was a thirteen-year-old boy, a fifteen-year-old female groped my buttocks in the crowded hallway of my high school. A few weeks later, a fifteen-year-old male pinched my nipple in the same situation. Neither of them needed to overpower me when they could just surprise me. Passing by hundreds of other students in five minutes between classes, was I supposed to watch out for this? I had never met either of them before; only when I looked to see who had sexually assaulted me, I saw whose face was leering at me. My feelings of disgust and embarrassment were the same, regardless of the sex of the lascivious person.


The law and its application should be based on fairness, not idealizing one sex and vilifying the other.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sexy_Pishachni

https://sahodar.in/why-false-molestation-cases-is-becoming-a-big-problem-in-india/

Several women takes advantage of such laws and judgment and file false cases against men, due to which such men have to suffer their entire life. According to the Data given by National Crime Records Bureau Delhi 30,000 molestation cases were filed during the year 2013-2014 and 75% of cases amongst them were false.

With the increase in no. of false cases the no. of men committing suicide due to molestation cases is also increasing, the report shows more than 3500 men commit suicide in India every year due to molestation cases.


1) The article cites some random source saying that 75% cases were false. There is no actual link or cite to the National crime record bereau (does such a record even exist? Where is the link? Why 2014? Why not now)


2) What even is this source? Sahodar? The artilce uses examples like putting hands on shoulders. OF COURSE that is wrong without permission. Any women will feel uncomfortable


3) Cases being dismissed doesnt make something "fake". In fact its very difficutt to prove molestation so actual criminals get away more


4) All other sources show that false rape or molestation cases is in fact LESSER than fake cases for other crimes like kindapping, theft, murder, blackmailing, etc


5) India is literally a HELL HOLE for women. One if the highest in the world when it comes to crime against women. MOST crimines against women go UNPUNISHED. This is the reality. Rapists, molestors, go away unscathed


6) I am all for men rights and men not being accused falsely. But we are still a country where women cannot go out alone in the dark. Thats the bigger problem which needs to be addressed


7) STOP spreading this FALSE narrative (that most rape and molestation cases are fake). Think about saving and protecting women. You spoke about 30k cases, can you cite the actual rape and women murder numbers in the same period? They are way HIGHER


8) The saddest thing in the world is when women themselves fall prey to propganda. And these are women who 100% would have faced such things in their lives, would have felt uncomfortale, women who hate trabelign in crowded transport, are scared of stepping out after night alone. Yet they themselves spread this propaganda. In such a country which is still so unsafe for women they spread the narrative thatr men are being victimized? What? Why?

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