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Posted: 2 years ago

Trashy screenplay. Vankar claims it is a new show since leap but there is nothing new. Same old misogynistic, egoistic bhabi and family supporting Virat. Crass Chavans even more so, with even more power.

If is a new show then Sai should have been married to someone else and settled in her career.

They've just changed up some makeup, wardrobe and added a few extra characters.

The show is really puke-worthy now.smiley11

Pahki is still the same vile, evil and monstrous person and those were not like her has become like her.

Today was my final straw when I saw the abuse meted out to Vinu by both Virat and Pahki. One was force feeding him, I swore the child will aspirate with the way she was pushing the food in his mouth. Then I could not bear to watch the torture Vinu was being put through just to give Virat a sense of victory over Sai. Pahki failed there as a mother. She should have stopped this but they both don't care about Vinu. They are both using him now.

Shame on this PH!

All this today with Vinu was unnecessary.

I refuse to comment much on Virat and Sai because there is no Virat and sai. There is just Virat, then there is Sai.


Why should I waste my time trying to analyse this utter arrant nonsense.

It is like the time my husband told us that someone defecated outside of the women's toilet at his office and his mother was trying to figure out why the person did it. Like really, seriously?

Edited by Olive_Rose - 2 years ago
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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Indira1211

Sai won’t talk about troubles or suffering she had in the years without Virat because she wants to show him she was fine and didn’t need him…she’s very proud and has lots of self respect..she would try to show him that she doesn’t need any man in her life and she led her life well and took care of her child well..and considering that Sai is a highly educated woman and a doctor…this makes sense..she’s not going to struggle and have major financial difficulties like women who,don’t have professional careers.. she’s always had a house, her child always is well dressed, she has a nanny for her child and they eat nice food..they could have shown her even better off..like having a car as well..but they don’t want that for her and now they’ve even made her unemployed..But both Sai and Virat are very proud..they don’t want to show each other that life was dull for them without each other,..Virat still has to tell Sai how painful her and vinus death had been for him,. He hasn’t don’t this.. and patralekha is unravelling..the facade is slowly breaking ..until,she becomes negative again…savis truth will break it life and vinus revelation will break it completely.. she and Virat are pushing a boy who,can barely walk for their own personal issues 🤷🏻‍♀️

I agree.. and this has been a pattern...

Me and Sherry have had discussions on this few times...


That the reason Sais pain is never seen or noticed by V is because she always puts up this strong facade in front of him.. that she is unaffected.. all her breakdowns are in private so far... in a way it only makes her seem alone... that she has no one... and for that ... just once a breakdown in front of V would be nice...

Especially after she has suffered so much...


This is not at all giving any excuse to V... he should know... he should be able to read her after knowing her so intimately.. but his problem always has been he focuses on words and not the reactions...

Thus V only reacts or sees Sais POV only when she is physically hurt.


Contrast this to P who constantly reminds him of mere dard, Mera pyar and mujhe diya hua vaada...


Most of us in FD are waiting for a breakdown from Sai. It's only so much a person can bear... and if she cannot express it to the person who was once closest to her... what's the point? She will forever be alone.

For once it had to happen.


I am okay with the message.. just wanted it bit more personal. Sais struggle not the struggle of working women or single women in general.

And since V was the cause of all this, why couldn't it happen in front of him...


This is all to drag... so that this anger keeps simmering. 😔

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: nethraa_99

I saw that ....It's surprising

How will they reveal everything so soon?🤔

Savi's paternity reveal will cause enough chaos

They can drag it for a long time if they reveal Sai & Vinu one by one

I had the same thought that the UK wala might be a blooper... but then I don't get why this race has been ghusaoed suddenly? What plot point is it going to serve... when clearly Vinu is physically incapable to even participate forget winning.


Imagine the mental stress it's going to cause him. His classmates already bully him and he wants to impress his parents.. kyun faltu pressure de Rahe Hai uspe... unless it is of some use?


Sai can't go after reveal... but to keep her entangled with CN, this could be a plot.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Rosyme

That same promo in star tv india has another caption.

Don't think they will reveal soon.

Yes... but UK wala was posted later I guess... why would they put this caption... they could have just copied India one?

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Posted: 2 years ago

I would say let’s see what happens after reveal of Savi .. one thing I know is that they want all the actors in the same frame .. they want a situation where Sai n Savi effectively shift to Chavan niwas ..otherwise issues like harini , karishma can not even be explored ..



Vinayak’s truth might make the situation worthy enough for Sai n Savi to shift there regardless of Virat pakhi marriage status .. but Vinayak belonging to Virat will automatically negate the situation vs Sai n Savi they might chose to discard her existence


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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Moor278

I agree.. and this has been a pattern...

Me and Sherry have had discussions on this few times...


That the reason Sais pain is never seen or noticed by V is because she always puts up this strong facade in front of him.. that she is unaffected.. all her breakdowns are in private so far... in a way it only makes her seem alone... that she has no one... and for that ... just once a breakdown in front of V would be nice...

Especially after she has suffered so much...


This is not at all giving any excuse to V... he should know... he should be able to read her after knowing her so intimately.. but his problem always has been he focuses on words and not the reactions...

Thus V only reacts or sees Sais POV only when she is physically hurt.


Contrast this to P who constantly reminds him of mere dard, Mera pyar and mujhe diya hua vaada...


Most of us in FD are waiting for a breakdown from Sai. It's only so much a person can bear... and if she cannot express it to the person who was once closest to her... what's the point? She will forever be alone.

For once it had to happen.


I am okay with the message.. just wanted it bit more personal. Sais struggle not the struggle of working women or single women in general.

And since V was the cause of all this, why couldn't it happen in front of him...


This is all to drag... so that this anger keeps simmering. 😔

Sais break down in front of Virat will make him understand because sadly they’ve written him to be shallow where unless Sai tells him he can’t seem to think for himself that she must have gone through all this.. so looks like that breakdown will only happen before their reunion..yes I still think they’ll reunite 😅…. Because from today’s episode I can see patralekha going psycho again…and for Virat and Sai to reunite and. Be happy ..patralekha has to exit their lives…at the moment patralekha has him eating out of her hand..he thinks she’s so ŵorderful..so Virat and Sai can only truly unite if patralekha goes negative and goes into psycho mode and maybe she’ll try to hurt the kids..then finally she’ll go to the nut house or maybe they’ll kill her off or maybe they’ll keep her positive and she’ll reunite Sairat and go away..but there’s no way she can still be in their lives and they’ll reunite because the family adores patralekha..so for Sai to get her her true place, respect and love in chavans house…patralekha must go..and maybe this constant puja that the chavans are doing for patralekha needs to backfire ..so maybe she needs to go psycho ..otherwise they’ll still think she’s mahaan 😂
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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Sinmegh

I would say let’s see what happens after reveal of Savi .. one thing I know is that they want all the actors in the same frame .. they want a situation where Sai n Savi effectively shift to Chavan niwas ..otherwise issues like harini , karishma can not even be explored ..



Vinayak’s truth might make the situation worthy enough for Sai n Savi to shift there regardless of Virat pakhi marriage status .. but Vinayak belonging to Virat will automatically negate the situation vs Sai n Savi they might chose to discard her existence


I think Sai shifting to chavan house may happen before vinayaks revelation…there may be a custody case after savis reveal and Virat most probably will win..but Savi is little and won’t stay without her mom..she’ll cry and get sick and then Sai will be forced to live with the chavans because after losing his biological son vinu ..Virat is not going to give up his only biological child whom he wanted for so,long.. and the Chavans will have to tolerate Sai as Savi is their flesh and blood. And then we will see Virat and Sai get closer and maybe Sai will start ŵorking at orphanage again and when vinus revelation happens..we will see patralekha going completely negative as she would have lost everything..today vinu said ..if baba adopts Savi..then he, Savi, baba and doctor Aunty can all live together..he didn’t mention mumma patralekha…so he’ll dump palki as soon as he finds out dr. Aunty is his Aai. 😀👍
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Posted: 2 years ago

I want P to scream at Vinayak by calling him ehsaan faramosh.. even bk , should do that .. when he does doctor aunty .. after this only his reality should come out

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: Indira1211

Sais break down in front of Virat will make him understand because sadly they’ve written him to be shallow where unless Sai tells him he can’t seem to think for himself that she must have gone through all this.. so looks like that breakdown will only happen before their reunion..yes I still think they’ll reunite 😅…. Because from today’s episode I can see patralekha going psycho again…and for Virat and Sai to reunite and. Be happy ..patralekha has to exit their lives…at the moment patralekha has him eating out of her hand..he thinks she’s so ŵorderful..so Virat and Sai can only truly unite if patralekha goes negative and goes into psycho mode and maybe she’ll try to hurt the kids..then finally she’ll go to the nut house or maybe they’ll kill her off or maybe they’ll keep her positive and she’ll reunite Sairat and go away..but there’s no way she can still be in their lives and they’ll reunite because the family adores patralekha..so for Sai to get her her true place, respect and love in chavans house…patralekha must go..and maybe this constant puja that the chavans are doing for patralekha needs to backfire ..so maybe she needs to go psycho ..otherwise they’ll still think she’s mahaan 😂

This I agree whole heartedly... the way she has been entangled in their lives... her reveal as the biggest culprit, her death or her willing removal of herself will only bring back SaiRat. Question is kab?

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Posted: 2 years ago

Language Barriers


Sounds like a very usual term. And we understand the meaning of it in quite literal terms.

"Chor" - For those who are not well versed in Hindi it means "Thief". You know what that means in Malayalam? It means "Cooked Rice". Not even remotely related meanings right? We can credit that to different languages. Let's take another example. "Kora" is a word that is used in different context in the same language (Malayalam). In some parts of the state it means "Barking" and in some it means "Cough".

Weird right? Even more weird is why am I blabbering about this here? I'm sure you understood what I wrote about wrt language but you haven't made the connection to what I really mean to say. Why? I'm conversing in a language that is common to us. Then?

That is because I have only expressed the idea that is unique to my mind. A perspective (language) that is only known to me..my mind. Only when I convey the message in its entirety will you understand the connection. Because that is language of my mind, my heart and I need to translate it for anyone else to interpret it correctly.

Our perspectives, our feelings our actions and reactions here are our personal languages. We need to translate them into a common language for others to understand.

So what happens in a relationship? Any relationship, Friend, lover, spouse, siblings, parents...A mother knowing exactly what that naughty giggle of her baby means, the lover decoding a lone tear that did not escape the eye of his/her partner, a husband reading that it is not all right when wife says that all is well. In a relationship we try to learn this personal language of the other person. It is more about understanding the meaning of those seeming "Nothings, than the other person revealing that what that "Nothing" really meant. There lies the essence and success of a relationship.


Now let’s apply this in Sai-V relationship. They were at loggerheads for the longest time, despite the liking/love simmering within. Why? Not because they didn’t communicate. But because they did not understand each other's language. And I mean the same about V's "Jalebis".Because that's his language. MiMo track was all about them learning each other's language. But Shruti happened before they graduated! Unfortunately for them one speaks Greek and other Latin. Their languages are very complex. V doesn’t talk straight, his actions don’t match his words, and avoids "Real" talk. Sai on the other hand never really shows her pain, never expresses her sufferings. But I would say Sai is the actual topper from the two. She did for the longest time hold on to what she learnt. This was the surrogacy track. It was this very belief in her understanding of V's language that she held onto him despite him going against her. She stuck to him, because she knew where he was actually operating from.However wrong the approach was. However, V didn’t. He didn’t understand her language during miscarriage and neither did he understand her language during pregnancy. He only took what he saw more evidently. Not her personal language. And that is why separation happened. By the end of it Sai started to believe all that she learnt about him was incorrect.

And that is why she didn’t understand his "Poochon na". She doesn't see that longing and jealousy. Though she does try to go back and forth, which is why she keeps melting, but his actions make her believe she was wrong. "Main jitni baar sochti hoon ki aap isse nahi gir sakte aap aur zyada neeche gir jaate hain"

V has been a slow learner. I always say "Yeh banda cheating karke pass hua hai". He never really understood Sai's language. Never went beyond what she expressed. Which rarely had her true feelings. And that is why he didn’t understand the generic accusations and social issues around woman that Sai spoke about. He didn't connect them with Sai. What did he really take from their entire conversation. "The Slap" and "You are nobody to me". Words and actions that were loud and clear! Rest have no recollection value for him. They were ramblings of an overly self obsessed and egoist woman.


So what do we do when the other person does not understand our language? We "Translate". But that is not happening. If V had directly told her what happened, how he suffered and why he married, things would have sorted. And if Sai had retorted to every accusation personal context, the slow head would have understood.

But then they will not.

What next? There has to be someone else who understand their language or someone to whom they have "Translated" their feelings. JM! Sai's breakdown on the phone was just that. And this has made it easier for JM to understand her outburst today. Because he got her words. He just needs to form the sentences.


So I will slightly change my stand. Sai-V communicate, but in two different languages, which the other does not understand.


I said this before. Sai once said, P is herself pushing V towards Sai. Today Sai is doing the same. Unknowingly. But neither is she interested.

I'm not sure if the spoiler around police complaint was only a threat or a real one. Because the threat has already been delivered today. The revenge is left, which should be the result of the revelation.

Contrary to what I believed, the revenge game of V will not be that empty either. Because with all that Sai said today, he will compare P to her (his fav game) and he will try to work around his relationship with P. That is not his revenge from Sai. But a revenge from himself, for loving Sai. A mistake that he believes he committed and he needs to rectify. Though I have a different perspective to that too.

Something similar to what Sadhika has been saying. V is furious that she is having an affair with JM and has forgotten that he killed KJ and Sam. And Sai today clearly told JM that she has not for a moment forgotten that he killed them. This clears any confusion that she has forgiven him.

Now apply the same V. Because V-P and JM-Sai are parallels. Both are being associated with criminals. They have cleared Sai's side.

But do you think they are hiding V's version?


This also bring me to something Moor has been saying. There is something connecting JM to Savi and why Sai allowed JM to be close to Savi. I feel that JM got UM to Sai, knowing that she is alone and will not take his help. But much before, either during her pregnancy or post pregnancy, something happened where JM stepped in to save Sai-Savi. And hence she gave him this compensation. It could also be that he helped her to the hospital when she was she was due for delivery.


The real P is coming out now. Iska makeup sasta wala tha. Not waterproof/smudge proof. It is coming off. And the insecure P is coming out.

Are you happy today Sadhika? Renewed hopes with this side of P which has certain vibrations? But today she was not just giving the vibes of an insecure wife who is scared. Her overall demeanour had an evil edge to it. The one which says that she will play dirty if she is at risk of losing something he has so painstakingly acquired.


I'm hoping that either I was able to translate correctly or you have learnt the language of my mind by now 😉

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