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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: AdrakKombucha

South movie lovers pileez no mind.

Bollywood audience mein ek "elite" aur "intellectual" tabka hai, jo bhot judgemental hai.

Unke mutabik, e.g. Bhai ki movies sirf ricksheyvaale dekhate (yeh alag baat hai meri ray mein most of ricksheyvaale aise intellectual log se better hain).

Unko "intellectual pursuit" karneko maangta. Pikchar intelligent hona chahiye blah blah. Except unke fav na ho aisi pichchar mein.


Lekin yeh bhot chhota (albeit bhot vocal) tabka hai. Inne hich Bollywood ke single screen masala movies ki laga ke rakheli hai.


Abhi recently maine Ala Vaikunthapurramuloo pichchar dekhi (being remade as Shehzaada in Bollywood). Kya 1 Number pichchar banayelay. Apan ne Minnal Murali bhi dekha. "Classy" superhero pichchar.

South movie industry sahi jaarelay, aur mere jaise Bollywood fans ka full too support hai 👍🏼

spot on, I was just reading some "critics" reactions to the hype RRR is getting and possible oscar chance.

on even days they are claiming oscars are useless who wants western validation,

on odd days, they dread that RRR will spoil western viewers perception of Indian movies , because westerners should only watch "quality, good" cinema, meaning that random fim which except the critics and the filmmakers nobody else watched. how can they like this cheap, crass, cringe stuff when we have introduced the world to good indian cinema through our film festivals.

the biggest change is, theaters, critics nobody can control anything now, ppl will watch whatever they like an comment and post online, these ppl are irrelevant now, they cant control anything

thanks to hindi viewers who have been open minded to all films

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Interesting turn of events. How are movies from the South doing so well all of a sudden while all the big bollywood movies flop left and right?

Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: mintyblue


I will watch it for Hrithik, not for cinematic reasons.


Just because he is my favourite actor.


I understand. People are watching bollywood only because their favorite hero or heroines are there otherwise it's trash! Thats what I'm saying too.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: vcs17

spot on, I was just reading some "critics" reactions to the hype RRR is getting and possible oscar chance.

on even days they are claiming oscars are useless who wants western validation,

on odd days, they dread that RRR will spoil western viewers perception of Indian movies , because westerners should only watch "quality, good" cinema, meaning that random fim which except the critics and the filmmakers nobody else watched. how can they like this cheap, crass, cringe stuff when we have introduced the world to good indian cinema through our film festivals.

the biggest change is, theaters, critics nobody can control anything now, ppl will watch whatever they like an comment and post online, these ppl are irrelevant now, they cant control anything

thanks to hindi viewers who have been open minded to all films

Its actually our fortune to have access to quality cinema in a setting we can easily relate to. 👍🏼


Also, interestingly, quite a few such "elite" 'critics' have an unusual affinity towards stars particularly having Caucasian-like features. Any deviation from there, really throws them off.... 😐

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Supari_khala

Interesting turn of events. How are movies from the South doing so well all of a sudden while all the big bollywood movies flop left and right?

i think south are doing same as what they did before, some good ones are hits, others are flopping, all these which are successful would have done so pre covid too, there is no big change

change is BW which is facing lot of downs, i think it was building down the years with dubbed movies and a general disconnect, inflated budgets which has now blown up with cheap data and OTT and it is murky with all these boycott

it is a cycle and it will go up again with changes though

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: vcs17

i think south are doing same as what they did before, some good ones are hits, others are flopping, all these which are successful would have done so pre covid too, there is no big change

change is BW which is facing lot of downs, i think it was building down the years with dubbed movies and a general disconnect, inflated budgets which has now blown up with cheap data and OTT and it is murky with all these boycott

it is a cycle and it will go up again with changes though


This is the key. Unfortunately, Bollywood is blaming the boycotts and not admitting changes are needed.

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: AdrakKombucha

Its actually our fortune to have access to quality cinema in a setting we can easily relate to. 👍🏼


Also, interestingly, quite a few such "elite" 'critics' have an unusual affinity towards stars particularly having Caucasian-like features. Any deviation from there, really throws them off.... 😐

it is same for south indians too, we also watch marathi, or other south indian languages which we didnt get to see before

very true, even the settings, culture they relate to are very elite, they will sometimes appreciate a "mass" movie like they are patting a street dog. they are like the lutyens gangs of politics, wannabe westerners, toatlly irrelevant in new india and now the younger generation from small towns has total contempt for them and nobody cares for their approval

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: vcs17

it is same for south indians too, we also watch marathi, or other south indian languages which we didnt get to see before

very true, even the settings, culture they relate to are very elite, they will sometimes appreciate a "mass" movie like they are patting a street dog. they are like the lutyens gangs of politics, wannabe westerners, toatlly irrelevant in new india and now the younger generation from small towns has total contempt for them and nobody cares for their approval

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Posted: 2 years ago
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Originally posted by: Supari_khala

Interesting turn of events. How are movies from the South doing so well all of a sudden while all the big bollywood movies flop left and right?


Because South makers depend on story , content , good music and make low budget movies. They put effort in story,.And They come with less hype and PR. People watch it with low expectations and they get pleasantly surprised looking at content and story. When you put low budget its easy to gain profits at box office. Also there is no propaganda and boycott activities in South. Sitaramam was a Muslim and Hindu love story still South people accepted the story with so much love and appreciation.



While Bollywood is fully loaded with remakes, They put extremely high budgets on half baked story/content ,they are too lazy to put least effort on actual content. Too much pre-release hype and PR . Lot of Muslim vs Hindu propaganda by North audience. Boycotts what not, Still people are clueless why Bollywood is not working at box office!....Also it's not easy to regain the profit for such too high budget.They should put the effort on the movie content not on high budget,or PR. And these Bollywood actors don't maintain privacy, everything is PR for them including their personal lives, they get exposed too much on media and lot of controversies offscreen while South movie actors stay low key and private.

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Posted: 2 years ago

Originally posted by: AdrakKombucha

South movie lovers pileez no mind.

Bollywood audience mein ek "elite" aur "intellectual" tabka hai, jo bhot judgemental hai.

Unke mutabik, e.g. Bhai ki movies sirf ricksheyvaale dekhate (yeh alag baat hai meri ray mein most of ricksheyvaale aise intellectual log se better hain except maybe in financial aspect).

Unko "intellectual pursuit" karneko maangta. Pikchar intelligent hona chahiye blah blah. Except unke fav na ho aisi pichchar mein.


Lekin yeh bhot chhota (albeit bhot vocal) tabka hai. Inne hich Bollywood ke single screen masala movies ki laga ke rakheli hai.


Abhi recently maine Ala Vaikunthapurramuloo pichchar dekhi (being remade as Shehzaada in Bollywood). Kya 1 Number pichchar banayelay. Apan ne Minnal Murali bhi dekha. "Classy" superhero pichchar.

South movie industry sahi jaarelay, aur mere jaise Bollywood fans ka full too support hai 👍🏼


People are entitled to go for whatever motive. Entertainment, intellectual, whatever. Point most people are trying to make is average audience does want that entertainment. Some south sectors, like Tamil and Malayalam, do have a good mix of intellectual and mass movies. Malayalam gives The Great Indian Kitchen and Nayattu as well as Minnal Murali. They win at box office also because most are well made.


Give people what they want - actual entertainment - and they will show up in theaters. If you make a film only for intellectuals, be aware only intellectuals will show up. Then don't complain no one else showed up. Intellectual movies succeed in Kerala partly because of education. But who says intellectual can't be entertaining or relatable? The filmmaker needs to be talented enough to make it so. What's the point in blaming the audience for the filmmaker's shortcomings?


Bollywood anyway does not do intellectual very often, and the reviewers are complaining about it. In a way, they are right because what they are essentially saying is we don't have filmmakers who know how to reach large audiences with smart stories.


And now Bollywood stopped doing mass films.


What they have are projects thrown together with boxes checked off. High-priced stars? Check. Foreign shoot? Check. Remix music? Check. VFX? Check. Script? Oh, yeah, we'll write something on set.


No matter mass or class, you need to have a story and script. Then a proper director and a team of technicians. Then appropriate cast.


But Bollywood does not want to admit that there's a problem with them. Some BW fans would rather generalize all South Indian films as crass and crappy, clearly not even having seen them. Clearly, something about South Indian movies is appealing to the Hindi belt. I firmly believe a good story well told will attract an audience. Doesn't have to be intellectual. Therefore, South Indian movies are succeeding.

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