Th 2; Aik Sitam Aur (ARY Digital); Anmol Baloch, Usama Khan - Page 61

Originally posted by: vibha28

You have put it perfectly 👏👏👏👏👏 kudos 👏👏👏👍👍

I wrote in my post that up until things were going her way she was fine and happy. I think up until now she has got what she wanted. She wanted husband to marry, off she went to find a mature woman. Zainab said no then rather than saying thanks she goes your family is bad think about it. They were married. Mission accomplished.

Then it was project Shehroz so it didn’t matter who was in agreement, it went like she wanted. She was getting what she wanted. First curveball was shooting and Zainab not giving in. At this point Ushna was with her and being quiet in fact she did think it could be Romeo. But after she saw Shehroz when he took the gun and went after Romeo she realised things aren’t going her way.

I don’t understand what is her plan? First let’s marry, mumma is happy and now what? Divorce and mamma is happy? She must think marriage is a game one she loves to play. She is now busy playing divorce divorce. What’s next? Wahab and Zainab to divorce too? She is being silly.

I would want her to die in the end, she really is not redeemable for me. Same with Romeo - he should be behind bars for stalking and harassing. Won’t happen but I can wish.

I think she is getting bored sitting in a wheelchair and experimenting with human emotions must be her favorite time pass. But, again I don't think she considers anyone around her as human. It's more like experimental objects. She doesn't realize that the people living with her are emotionally attached to Zainab and Ushna. This attitude 'Mother-Daughter are things brought by me and there should be no objection if I want to throw them out' makes her look stupid. Why did you initiate this project 'Sautan' if you were enough capable to run your house sitting in a wheelchair? Hopefully, Zainab would not even think to walk out without taking her right this time. She shouldn't become 'use and throw' material by her aapa.

Originally posted by: CoffeeCake

I think she is getting bored sitting in a wheelchair and experimenting with human emotions must be her favorite time pass. But, again I don't think she considers anyone around her as human. It's more like experimental objects. She doesn't realize that the people living with her are emotionally attached to Zainab and Ushna. This attitude 'Mother-Daughter are things brought by me and there should be no objection if I want to throw them out' makes her look stupid. Why did you initiate this project 'Sautan' if you were enough capable to run your house sitting in a wheelchair? Hopefully, Zainab would not even think to walk out without taking her right this time. She shouldn't become 'use and throw' material by her aapa.

Yes I agree that if they cater to Ms Screecher’s plan then both zainab and Ushna should go. No more leads shipping from my end. I think if anyone can easily get rid of their wife on the say of others then that man is not worth it.

I think you are right she thinks of them as objects her properties. She brought them and she can get rid of them. She is a vile woman. I did think zainab should have supported her but now I am glad zainab didn’t. I think this has shocked Naima but good she needed that.

Originally posted by: vibha28

I did see he said to Zainab why didn’t you tell us? Well why didn’t you ask? If it mattered too much! They are all hypocrites.

Sahi only Ushna Shehroz are worth watching, rest are terrible. Oh and that huzaifa and his one liners I like that too. Someone needs to really shut Naima up I can’t take her anymore at all. Romeo used to roam around and didn’t talk much whereas Naima talks a lot. It’s such a drag fest now.

Can't believe naima turned out worse than road side Romeo 😳

Originally posted by: CoffeeCake

Never thought that Naima would end up becoming worst than frozen face Sufiyan. People had predicted a rivalry between her and Zainab due to common husband, but she's busy competing with Ushna for Shehroz. Zunaisha should come back to remind her that she's abnormal.

to be honest, am not really able to understand this new naima. like renee.clare noted, the changes are too abrupt that it is hard to process. maybe if it happened over 100 eps like in ITV, it would have been more easier. also, am not sure if this happened because of the extension or if there were clues right from the start like how murathayat and vibha think.

maybe it is just oedipus complex as orchid pointed out. I always thought the relationship between wahab and naima was super formal. the way they refer to each other and discuss things, there is something missing. yes, there is respect and affection but there is a distance. it probably has been like that for years even before she became disabled that it is rather normal for them. shehroze in the beginning episodes told wahab that he was an absentee father who never showed up for his school functions or spent time with them. so maybe it was just shehroze and naima together for the longest time. wahab was never really in the picture. perhaps that is why she was willing to get wahab married to zainab and there was a lack of real competition or jealousy. they hadn't shared a room or any emotional intimacy in a way.

whereas, with zainab and wahab, have noticed a slow growth and changes. initially there was a bit of awkwardness and formality which was expected but now, they feel more together as a unit and as a couple. the way they talk to each other and the body language, they are a couple.

that is why naima is also having a meltdown -- both the men in her life are going farther away and she didn't expect that. but she orchestrated that which is why it is nuts. maybe once she processes the changes and figures out a place for herself in this household that has now changed, she will come back to normal? 🤷

I can totally understand Naima Wahab and Sehroze equation...I have experienced in real life. You can handle a snake better than a jealous in-laws parents. I am not surprised or shocked to see Naima and Wahab agrees with her thing.

Naima always seen Sehroze and Ushnas disinterest to each other (abnormal mummy's always happy to see this), the moment she has seen, they actually care for each other and her mind changed.

Only treatment for this is, Ushna should always make Sehroze feel that he can lose Ushna anytime. If Ushna too show love equally and give Sehroze confirmation about FOREVER then gayii pani ganga meyyy, Sehroze will handshake his mummy and relationship will be ready to jump in Ocean 🌊😆

I understand writer now, why he didn't show Ushna's ''i love you too'' in proposal scene. Ushna understood this nonsense quickly than me. Ushna is in treatment mode 😆

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

to be honest, am not really able to understand this new naima. like renee.clare noted, the changes are too abrupt that it is hard to process. maybe if it happened over 100 eps like in ITV, it would have been more easier. also, am not sure if this happened because of the extension or if there were clues right from the start like how murathayat and vibha think.

maybe it is just oedipus complex as orchid pointed out. I always thought the relationship between wahab and naima was super formal. the way they refer to each other and discuss things, there is something missing. yes, there is respect and affection but there is a distance. it probably has been like that for years even before she became disabled that it is rather normal for them. shehroze in the beginning episodes told wahab that he was an absentee father who never showed up for his school functions or spent time with them. so maybe it was just shehroze and naima together for the longest time. wahab was never really in the picture. perhaps that is why she was willing to get wahab married to zainab and there was a lack of real competition or jealousy. they hadn't shared a room or any emotional intimacy in a way.

whereas, with zainab and wahab, have noticed a slow growth and changes. initially there was a bit of awkwardness and formality which was expected but now, they feel more together as a unit and as a couple. the way they talk to each other and the body language, they are a couple.

that is why naima is also having a meltdown -- both the men in her life are going farther away and she didn't expect that. but she orchestrated that which is why it is nuts. maybe once she processes the changes and figures out a place for herself in this household that has now changed, she will come back to normal? 🤷

Ah this!!

Even I have started to feel that she was always like this ,it is just that before she was too secure but not assured. But then it is difficult to process this. i am still not able to process because she was the one pushing Shehroz to go on date with Ushna or sending Zainab with Wahab on a party. She did not even get affected by Raeesa and Mehnaz manipulating her against Ushna and Zainab, instead she told them to back off. It is so weird that she has taken a complete U-turn on this adoption thing when she was the one telling Shehroz how she does not care about Ushna being adopted, neither she created a ruckus against Zainab when Zainab told her about this for the first time. I mean, even then, if we see, Zainab hid this truth to her before marriage. But she was defending Zainab later on this point when Shehroz called Zainab liar. I am still not able to sink in because she was even pushing Shehroz to marry Zunaisha despite how Zunaisha behaved with her. I mean, if she was control freak since start, then she would have made sure that Zunaisha did not become Shehroz's wife. As she would have sensed that Zunaisha will never go her way. But she was persuading Shehroz to mend ways with Zunaisha. Well, i will call this more of a writing fault in her character to create drama for the extension. Otherwise, Naima's initial behaviour did not signal much of how psychotic she was from inside 😆 There was no sign of jealousy before the accident and after that she is gone whole crazy for her son 😆 it reminds me of initial days of Shehroz being obsessed with her , now it is her time. When mother is fine, son behaves psychotic, when son is fine ,mother turns psuchotic. Sahi hai 😆

Originally posted by: vibha28

Yes I completely agree with you. It was his right to be in her room and he didn’t hesitate at all. I also liked how he let her cry as he knew she needed that. I would like if he just says to her that move in my room you have the right. But he is managing it.

You are again right that he is the only one to put Naima in her place. She thinks marriage is a game which she played with her toys and now she doesn’t want to play that anymore. Kids are not toys that when you feel marry them and when you feel get rid of them. Shehroz wanted to marry Ushna eventually and that’s why he married. He flat out said no to zunaisha after she dumped him and only sought her out when he wanted something from her. Back then he was not in love but now he is deeply in love and he is very possessive which his mother knows too.

Why can’t she understand that comparing her love to the love he has for his wife is very vulgar and it is not to be compared. They are two very different relationships with two different love. She can’t be thinking he will never be close to woman where first place will always be mother. Stupid woman, someone needs to do us a favour and take Naima and Romeo. We can to buy one get one free or in this let’s do crowd funding and give it to those who wants them?

it feels like naima also understimated shehroze or forgot what her own son was like. perhaps she didn't understand him completely. yes, he is a mama boy in that he really cares for his mom and was willing put aside his personal life to take care of her for years. however, he is not the typical mama boy who is afraid to speak up or have his own opinion.

instead, shehroze has always been tempermental and needed delicate handling. he had to be persuaded with sweet words and logic rather than ordering. even with persuasion, he only listens when it suits him -- that is what happened with zunaisha. he could care less if naima was upset but he absolutely refused to budge. only when she was discussing wahab's re-marriage, he got annoyed and went back to zunaisha. so it was about his priority rather than naima. thats why shehroze is a bit of a loose cannon.

her ordering him to get divorced will not work because he has always danced to his own tune and rules. it is becoming more clear that he agreed to marry ushna because he wanted to and it suited him. as simple as that. so naima is going to learn the hard way that shehroze may care about her deeply but it does not mean he will jump when she says "jump" -- he isn't that kind of mama boy. he is a man very much with his own mind.

perhaps that is why she is upset -- she can see that the importance he used to give her has now been supplanted. but like you said it is very vulgar to compare the love for a wife with a love for mom because those are two very different things. also, why don't these parents in dramaland realize that it is natural order that a man and wife will get more close and become a unit? -- that is simply part of life. why fight it and make it seem like something weird or wrong? 🙄

Lessons to learn from Zainab's life:

1. If your parents give you share of property, acccept it as your right. Do not be sacrificial esp when your siblings are well established. There is nothing wrong in being selfish sometimes.
2. If not regular job, go for a part time job or keep upgrading yourself with job skills rather than completely dependent on your husband when you also do not have any inherited property or business. Life is very unoredictable. Zainab was good in studies despite this she was dependent on others and had to live in the same family who betrayed her.
3. Never hide anything from your near and dear ones esp when you know others can use that to create misunderstandings. Zainab should have gathered courage to tell everything to Ushna. Sufiyan and family would not have blackmailed and used this to torture Zainab and Ushna. And Ushna would have been in a better mental space than what she is today.
4. Never look back to those who betrayed you once, they will betray again. Zainab should never have gone back to her brothers in any sense, when they were tje ones who did not bother about her husband dying. And character assassinated her daughter . Ushna has gottten same traits from her. Them being nice to their old family and Sufiyan is giving a chance to people like Naima to make more issues. Wish Zainab was more firm with her brothers and Ushna with Sufiyan.

The day when Raeesa came and threatened Zainab and Wahab went with the latter to warn the mukhtar house sorry Madhouse people

I knew it and also mentioned that I'm feeling scared Naima Zainab bond will be ruined

Naima : mujhe kyun nahi bataya Wahab ko toh bataya na waise mujhe bhi bata deti

Nai wo ye tension ke ki her daughter will come to know about her adoption or run to you my bhabhi came and gave dhamki

Then Naima would be the one to call and tell wahab all

Wo hona chahiye tha Naima needs to know all she has to do all

Originally posted by: Renee.Clare

Lessons to learn from Zainab's life:

1. If your parents give you share of property, acccept it as your right. Do not be sacrificial esp when your siblings are well established. There is nothing wrong in being selfish sometimes.
2. If not regular job, go for a part time job or keep upgrading yourself with job skills rather than completely dependent on your husband when you also do not have any inherited property or business. Life is very unoredictable. Zainab was good in studies despite this she was dependent on others and had to live in the same family who betrayed her.
3. Never hide anything from your near and dear ones esp when you know others can use that to create misunderstandings. Zainab should have gathered courage to tell everything to Ushna. Sufiyan and family would not have blackmailed and used this to torture Zainab and Ushna. And Ushna would have been in a better mental space than what she is today.
4. Never look back to those who betrayed you once, they will betray again. Zainab should never have gone back to her brothers in any sense, when they were tje ones who did not bother about her husband dying. And character assassinated her daughter . Ushna has gottten same traits from her. Them being nice to their old family and Sufiyan is giving a chance to people like Naima to make more issues. Wish Zainab was more firm with her brothers and Ushna with Sufiyan.

from a positive side, here are a few more:

5. not all marriages are about love. some are simply about respect and companionship. as long as both parties are clear about what their expectations are, a marriage can work. she loved farooq. she cares for wahab.

6. respect your past but don't dwell on it. she apologizes to wahab when she brings up farooq while discussing ushna's adoption at one point. wahab then simply says that farooq is part of her life and there is nothing wrong it. so both wahab and zainab have a healthy respect for the first marriage but they don't let that relationship dictate their own. so there are set boundaries and respect for the changes in their life. no comparison or behaviours from the past influencing this relationship.

7. no transactional demands in relation to a parent-child relationship -- there is no "I raised you and therefore you have to do this for me" type emotional blackmail that we see in some dramas.

8. showing a healthy and good love of an adopted parent as well as a adopted parent-child relationship