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Posted: 3 years ago

Appu is right about Shashank and dada parallels here. Hehe.

Both want their wife and daughter to study, become independent etc.


On a more serious note, vinayak saying to avantika she's dead to the family is a new extreme. Yes she broke his trust by going behind his back and getting married, yet a father saying that to his beloved daughter isn't right. No matter how angry he is.

After that, i wonder how she could come to amey's wedding. Wouldn't be fair for the husband.


Time should heal certain wounds, both A and Vinayak are wounded, so is madhavi.


Also, Aaj bohot waqt baad Shappu me shaadi k contract ki baat Hui. Liked that drama. I love when they get serious like that about uncomfortable things.

Especially her, now he knows she ain't melting like that.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: ishqi

I don't know what you guys think about it but the DK (and family) aren't entirely wrong in their position about Avantika.


So it looks like she did everything from them and just suddenly came home married with her husband. Anybody would get angry about that. As Mai had said, DK didn't object to her marrying, he just wanted her to be settled before she did. And she just went behind everyone's back and got married. So their initial anger and hurt is totally understandable but as the anger went away, DK did call her back. And this time she was wrong again to insult him that way in her own ego. So as a father, he will be more hurt than angry and his words sounds more out of pain too.


It's not a matter of intercaste marriage or marrying against the family's wishes or parent's wishes. It's how she did it. The lying and the ego even when they were willing to take a step forward.

I completely agree with you. I understand the pain parents go through when kids run away and not realize what happens to their parents. I have witnessed a cousin’s situation like this but at the end of the day, parents were right in their fear and cousin realized later too. Her parents were distraught but situation was handled properly.
Another case, a girl I knew just didn’t even speak to her parents about it and just ran away. It was out of the blue and shocking to the people who knew her. Anyway, her parents were hurt and angry but eventually now no issues between them.

Anyway it’s painful, it was their right to be angry and she needed to realize that they would be angry so their anger was justified.
Once that anger melted, she should not have shown her ego and realized that her parents have come around and gone back.

I don’t know, I am very traditional and practical in this matter but I also feel that their anger was justified (it was not wrong to love) but there is a way to everything. If she chose such a method then she should have understood their anger too. When we get angry at the person we love, we can say many hurtful things. It’s not about wrong or right, it’s about being real and understanding the emotional turmoil one goes through.

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Posted: 3 years ago

He better a have a filter on…i am supporting him in this case as long as he doesnt say too much in front of all….

before saying those things….he needs to show what she did wrong by lying and manipulating…and what chaos her immature plans and stubbornness brought to the family….and it hurt people…

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: jollyismyname

I do feel for dk now after reading this….his anger is justified…i would be angry too….since its shown to be a close family adn she went behind their back,,,he was ready to accept…he only wanted best for her…so he got a bit angry….any father in this situation would..

He did call….and she didnt come so there is only so much left to do…and didnt she miss her parents too? Tali do no haath se bajti hai…

Yes exactly...the fault was hers first, not for loving someone or wanting to marry them, but for doing it behind the family's back (esp such a close knit loving family who have nothing against love marriages, since Babi was an example right in front of her eyes). And even when family tried to make amends, she refused so their anger at her isn't actually anger but more pain and hurt for her complete disregard for them all in her own ego. Mai is just a mom so her pain is different, she's willing to forget all that just to see her daughter again.

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Posted: 3 years ago

So after this will she apologize to khauds for lying and break her promise? Or dk? Or kuki?

Will she feel she hurt khadus in making things right for others?

Or will agin, khadus end up asking for forgives?

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: arshia786

I completely agree with you. I understand the pain parents go through when kids run away and not realize what happens to their parents. I have witnessed a cousin’s situation like this but at the end of the day, parents were right in their fear and cousin realized later too. Her parents were distraught but situation was handled properly.
Another case, a girl I knew just didn’t even speak to her parents about it and just ran away. It was out of the blue and shocking to the people who knew her. Anyway, her parents were hurt and angry but eventually now no issues between them.

Anyway it’s painful, it was their right to be angry and she needed to realize that they would be angry so their anger was justified.
Once that anger melted, she should not have shown her ego and realized that her parents have come around and gone back.

I don’t know, I am very traditional and practical in this matter but I also feel that their anger was justified (it was not wrong to love) but there is a way to everything. If she chose such a method then she should have understood their anger too. When we get angry at the person we love, we can say many hurtful things. It’s not about wrong or right, it’s about being real and understanding the emotional turmoil one goes through.

My thinking is the same way. I might have grown up in US but my thoughts are a blend of traditional and realistic. DK saying that she's dead to them all that is something that is completely expected when a parent's heartbreaks like that. It's not right but it's very human to react that way, because they are not said out of anger but pain. If she had tried to convince the family first about her love, peacefully and maturely, and they had blatantly refused, then her running away and getting married would be totally justified and the parents would be in the wrong then.


And even if the families reconcile afterwards, the previous relationship really is dead because what happened will always be in the back of their minds. Forgiven maybe because they are parents and they really have no choice but to bow down because of their love but the pain is never forgotten.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: IAdoreYou

Dada-Kaka - more than mad - looked wounded to me. I don't know how to put it in words but I just could feel it - that Avantika was not just his first kid but also that kid that he probably loved the most. Now, I know that parents do not differentiate and their love for all their kids stays the same but the affection for your first kid is always different and special. Because that kid gifts you the beautiful first experience of parenthood.

Dada-Kaka seems to have struggled a lot to bring himself to a point where he can pretend like Avantika does not matter to him anymore. Why he seems like he hates even the mere mention of her because maybe hearing her name makes a crack to the art of pretense that he thinks that he has mastered but in reality - it is fragile enough to break even with the slight hit by Avantika's memories.


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From my yesterday's review.


Yes! 100% true! He is more hurt than anything and maintaining a facade of anger to prevent himself from breaking down. And people bringing up her name is, like you said, cracking his facade which he can't handle.


I'm sure that once they come face to face, after the initial anger from DK, we are going to see him breakdown worse than anyone else in the family. And that might be what makes Khadus loose his temper at Appu.

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: IAdoreYou

Dada-Kaka - more than mad - looked wounded to me. I don't know how to put it in words but I just could feel it - that Avantika was not just his first kid but also that kid that he probably loved the most. Now, I know that parents do not differentiate and their love for all their kids stays the same but the affection for your first kid is always different and special. Because that kid gifts you the beautiful first experience of parenthood.

Dada-Kaka seems to have struggled a lot to bring himself to a point where he can pretend like Avantika does not matter to him anymore. Why he seems like he hates even the mere mention of her because maybe hearing her name makes a crack to the art of pretense that he thinks that he has mastered but in reality - it is fragile enough to break even with the slight hit by Avantika's memories.


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From my yesterday's review.

I agree with you, he did look sad and wounded (better word).
Parents love their kids, as you said I agee buy a first child is always special to their parents. If that first child is a daughter, she’s a daddy’s girl or more like same the personality as her father (my experience, but I could be wrong). I’m the eldest and I’m a daddy’s girl. Here, same can be said for both DK and Avantika.

Now, from my personal experience and other mothers I have talked to, I only have 1 child at the moment but our relationship is super strong and sometimes I myself question myself as to how I will be towards a second child like will I love them equally or will My first child always hold a special place (not necessarily loved more)

At the moment, DK’s anger is the layer to cover hus wounded heart. Parents think how a person who came way later than them can replace such a strong bond.

Also, I understand that what DK said was extremely hurtful and any child will take it to heart include me. However, we as children understand and know our parents the most so we know what the consequences will be id we take a certain action.
I guess I am biased due to personal experiences and being a parent. I am older and all my cousins kids call me if they need help or are in a problem or come to me for advice. Sometimes I yell at them and tell them that why didn’t they think of their parents when they acted the way they did. Just the whole spiel.

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Posted: 3 years ago

+1….well said by both you and Arshi.. same though process as yours….on this one…

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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: jollyismyname

So after this will she apologize to khauds for lying and break her promise? Or dk? Or kuki?

Will she feel she hurt khadus in making things right for others?

Or will agin, khadus end up asking for forgives?

At this point, they are both going to need to apologize to each other. Him for not trusting her and blaming her and now her for breaking his trust.


Whatever happens, I hope they both realize how much they've hurt each other. Maybe some dialogue during this whole track may make Shashank realize where he was wrong too.

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