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Posted: 3 years ago
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I get it the passion dialogue.

NGOs in India always try to convince deserving candidates by talking about Passion and offer a very low pay scale.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Salutethearmy

I get it the passion dialogue.

NGOs in India always try to convince deserving candidates by talking about Passion and offer a very low pay scale.


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Posted: 3 years ago
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I believe one need passion as well as qualification for career.

Also, I wouldn’t want to debate on a line said in the precap which is in bits and pieces. I would wait for the episode to air to know the context.

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This is the reply I had posted on the other post on the same topic though it may get lost there under the slew of responses. So reposting here.


You may be surprised how hollow "qualifications are the only thing that can get you job or opportunity" holds in real world. For a lot jobs your qualifications are only treated as prerequisite so as to avoid training expenses by the company and nothing else. And I have seen multiple cases of passionate but "unqualified" people starting off (with a lesser pay) at the same position and rise the ranks rapidly with training. In India we have this degree before all attitude especially corporate world which makes a lot of people including Harsh Birla think that a higher degree with top marks will automatically be the best fit for a given job but that's entirely false.

And I say this as a topper with PhD myself. Sure my PhD counts as my experience but the lab technician who probably went to a trade school starting off as a minimum wage worker but has a lot more knowledge and expertise than me on the equipments and experiments that I used for my research. Apart from medical practitioners where lives are at risk, all other jobs (yes engineering ones too) can be done low qualified but well trained passionate individuals.

And moving on to what Akshara said, even you know that you are taking it out of context. Of course she is qualified as a licensed music therapist. She was shown interviewing with her degrees and Mahima was impressed by her in the NGO interview itself. So the part of free job offer at BH without any qualifications is entirely untrue.

What Akshara was not a standalone statement but a reply to HB's taunt on her supposed lack of qualifications (probably an even higher degree equivalent or something).

In reality she is right. Charitable trusts and NGOs strictly chose their workers on their passion (infact lesser qualified is better for them) for 2 reasons:

1. Highly qualified candidates are most likely treating this a step stool or rest before they land something better. Plus they may come with a attitude problem to learning new things which is a strict no no in an NGO environment. Charitable trusts and NGOs generally reject such applicants because they don't want to waste their time working with such people. They have that bias.

2. Under - qualified but passionate candidates are more willing to learn, get trained and work with the victims/patients/subjects the NGO is dealing with. Infact if anything it's not Akshara's degree but her rich pedigree which might be hurdle for her landing this job (remember her first conversation with Mahima where she was taunted on being a rich kid who had am easy life)

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Antara_302

This is the reply I had posted on the other post on the same topic though it may get lost there under the slew of responses. So reposting here.


You may be surprised how hollow "qualifications are the only thing that can get you job or opportunity" holds in real world. For a lot jobs your qualifications are only treated as prerequisite so as to avoid training expenses by the company and nothing else. And I have seen multiple cases of passionate but "unqualified" people starting off (with a lesser pay) at the same position and rise the ranks rapidly with training. In India we have this degree before all attitude especially corporate world which makes a lot of people including Harsh Birla think that a higher degree with top marks will automatically be the best fit for a given job but that's entirely false.

And I say this as a topper with PhD myself. Sure my PhD counts as my experience but the lab technician who probably went to a trade school starting off as a minimum wage worker but has a lot more knowledge and expertise than me on the equipments and experiments that I used for my research. Apart from medical practitioners where lives are at risk, all other jobs (yes engineering ones too) can be done low qualified but well trained passionate individuals.

And moving on to what Akshara said, even you know that you are taking it out of context. Of course she is qualified as a licensed music therapist. She was shown interviewing with her degrees and Mahima was impressed by her in the NGO interview itself. So the part of free job offer at BH without any qualifications is entirely untrue.

What Akshara was not a standalone statement but a reply to HB's taunt on her supposed lack of qualifications (probably an even higher degree equivalent or something).

In reality she is right. Charitable trusts and NGOs strictly chose their workers on their passion (infact lesser qualified is better for them) for 2 reasons:

1. Highly qualified candidates are most likely treating this a step stool or rest before they land something better. Plus they may come with a attitude problem to learning new things which is a strict no no in an NGO environment. Charitable trusts and NGOs generally reject such applicants because they don't want to waste their time working with such people. They have that bias.

2. Under - qualified but passionate candidates are more willing to learn, get trained and work with the victims/patients/subjects the NGO is dealing with. Infact if anything it's not Akshara's degree but her rich pedigree which might be hurdle for her landing this job (remember her first conversation with Mahima where she was taunted on being a rich kid who had am easy life)

Very well said Antara -

I have my own experience too..coming from medical profession background...

Yes, basic qualification for the job is required if we are involved in patient care..there is no exception for that in this profession. Akshara is music therapist and she holds the degree for that. I am writing this POV considering this field involving patient care...

NGOs and trust hospitals do welcome other therapeutic options...Definitely fund is issue there and i think fund is issue everywhere nowadays. But such hospitals do get variety of patients and volume is also high...so exposure to learn is tremendous..

After my MD, i wanted to pursue further two specializations because i was passionate about those 2 fields. but I knew I have only 3 page resume while all my friends they have more than 15 pages full with lots of research papers in their name while i had only 2 that too just abstracts...I went for interviews and i had no problem in getting selected at first place...I had not much to discuss but to tell short and straight forward answers. My recommendation letters were very helpful as they spoke highly about my work..despite not so impressive resume academically. Interviewers definitely do not like candidates - some because of their attitude..they have high expectation of looking only great cases...They take common cases may be casually...they do not want to participate in things where their status as fellow will be looked down...etc...

No matter what..each case represents the living being and needs to be given 100% attention and care...

Passion is very important with basic qualification....

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Salutethearmy

I get it the passion dialogue.

NGOs in India always try to convince deserving candidates by talking about Passion and offer a very low pay scale.

I say akshu must work for free. Anything to distract her from family 😆 Meri family tumhari family humari family mere parents tumhare parents humare parents ..meri arooo bhi😆we should be thankful to the yrkkh team . In order to show something different , akshu didn't take vachans with all the birlas turn by turn.


I am sure she will do nothing . Bas she will get a big prize for it while she does PhD in birla family.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: DiamondLife

Very well said Antara -

I have my own experience too..coming from medical profession background...

Yes, basic qualification for the job is required if we are involved in patient care..there is no exception for that in this profession. Akshara is music therapist and she holds the degree for that. I am writing this POV considering this field involving patient care...

NGOs and trust hospitals do welcome other therapeutic options...Definitely fund is issue there and i think fund is issue everywhere nowadays. But such hospitals do get variety of patients and volume is also high...so exposure to learn is tremendous..

After my MD, i wanted to pursue further two specializations because i was passionate about those 2 fields. but I knew I have only 3 page resume while all my friends they have more than 15 pages full with lots of research papers in their name while i had only 2 that too just abstracts...I went for interviews and i had no problem in getting selected at first place...I had not much to discuss but to tell short and straight forward answers. My recommendation letters were very helpful as they spoke highly about my work..despite not so impressive resume academically. Interviewers definitely do not like candidates - some because of their attitude..they have high expectation of looking only great cases...They take common cases may be casually...they do not want to participate in things where their status as fellow will be looked down...etc...

No matter what..each case represents the living being and needs to be given 100% attention and care...

Passion is very important with basic qualification....


Thanks for this insight into your profession. Actually anybody who has worked outside corporate world will give the same testimony.

I did my Masters and PhD in the US, had 4-5 research papers in my resume and no experience. I landed my first job after school in December last year not because of my qualifications or experience but passion in the field. I layer found out that they had been interviewing for that position since May and had interviewed 50+ candidates with a lot more experience and expertise than me. But the Board really liked my knowledge as well as passion for the field. They literally went with the straight outta college kid over industry veterans.

Infact the higher up the career ladder you move you find more and more less qualified but driven people at those positions.

India really needs to get over it's topper degree craze. Those things are really worth shit in real world.

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