Originally posted by: rinki_99
uff a lot has happened in the last 3 or so episodes. where do I start?
@komal, party di thi na, AT thread main masumiyat vanvas kat kar vapis jo ayi hain XD. but I agree, the scene was freaking hilarious. the part where she spits out the water
cheetah is never going to get his lady love after that.
here is my 2 rupees ka opinion on some things:
1) amrita accepting that she failed with such pride and maturity was beautiful to witness. I could almost picture myself over there realising that I should be working hard for things not because of what others want but because I want them because what I expect from myself is ultimately going to decide how i work towards my goals. that moment of epiphany was so relatable.
i don't have much to add about the haseena/Karishma/ the sequences of events that unfolded regarding them. I pretty much agree with everyone.
2) the KC case, wow I have to say I am quite impressed with how it was well written with the conflict nicely built up, well fleshed out, enacted, executed, kept crisp, straightforward and concluded. haldi and Ashok in the same case?! it was a laughter riot throughout. the chaotic energy radiating off in the entire episode (2nd May) was such a treat to watch -the cheetah santu banter, the couple throwing utensils around. the icing on the cake was actually the fact that they didn't completely butcher the Punjabi language (the structure was a little weird but overall it was pretty decent. and of course, I appreciate the representation of different languages/dialects).
I was a little sceptical when it was first introduced because I thought they were gonna end up together again. so I was pleasantly surprised by the turn of events where they had mutually filed for a divorced and agreed to be cordial with each other. the use of parallel scenes as Karishma and haseeena spoke to the husband and wife was well utilised to bring out the different aspects of a relationship. at the end of the day, the couple was very incompatible and the relationship brought nothing but stress and toxicity in their lives. I admired the way they recognised their ex's individuality and personality that would be what someone would want in a life partner but it simply wasn't what they were looking for. it was such a refreshing take on relationships and the underlying issues of mental health being subtly addressed were like sprinkles on the cake. also worth mentioning is that they didn't deny that society and people will gossip because it's true. gossip mongers are gonna say, "aao behen chugli karein." but it's up to us to decide how we let it affect us. so yes, the stigma of divorce will be there, people will talk and they may even be the butt of jokes but it isn't worth living in a suffocating marriage that won't bring any joy.
also, why is it that for parents to realise their children need freedom and space is always after the kid threatens suicide? bolne se baat samaj main nahi ati kya?
now, this could be me overthinking again but it feels like santu still has some leftover backstory that we are yet to find out. the way she spoke so passionately about how the husband is at fault and men, in general, got me thinking about whether she went through some other ordeal regarding this topic during the time frame of the show since its inception. especially since it isn't the first time she has been so fierce with it - before this there was the teacher case and a couple of other ones. I know that her father/ brother is far from what she would consider ideal men to look up to and that she did go through something extremely traumatic as a teenager during holi. that could be where her disdain and trust issues stem from. I don't know if it's how the character is currently being written or acted but she seems so angsty these past few days. it makes me think that there is something else going on (or maybe I just really miss the times when she would say utterly dumb things) ps. good opportunity to craft a story around her absence.
was it just me or did haseena seem annoyed at Pushpa Ji? I don't exactly understand where this hostility is coming from along with the repeated remarks of retirement/counselling. it's irritating, not funny. Pushpa ji not being able to quote a single time her counselling was useful was...fatuous for the lack of a better word. like hain? really?
3) the team just going out having fun playing badminton was a low-key fun scene that should have been extended on IMO with the all the characters given something to do other than just watching the shuttlecock going back and forth (if they ain't going to meet Mowgli, I will settle for more scenes like these). it was also pretty telling of their dynamics. my masumiyat and Pushpa ji as usual supported madam sir while cheetah for a change stood by Karishma with billu as a neutral party.
I try to like haseena, I really do but every time I reach a somewhat neutral ground with her, she seems to find a way to do back to the irritating, borderline unlikable character for me. Karishma was very clearly dissing her recent behaviour and showing that there was indeed trouble in paradise. instead of being the understanding and perceptive person she is presented to be, she proceeds to smile and shrug off anything she said like it was meant to be a joke, not even taking a moment to reflect. for all her observation and big talk, I wonder how she failed to read between the lines so bad. Karishma pointed out that the rest feel the same but they don't say it because of fear. no one, not even Pushpa Ji who has always stood by/up for haseena, denied this. I would take that silence as admission. they really need to sit down and have an open/honest conversation because little things like this- intentional or not- bring out the cracks in the relationships. as if that wasn't enough, madam malik decided to turn it into a competition of who is less uptight- the irony is uncanny.
i said bye to urmilla in seven different languages. I'm going to add another one to that list: Haere rā. I don't want to see her again. no just no.
Pushpa Ji went overboard with the whole naagin dance thing. I get it you are haseena's number one fan and apke lalla ke bhaag phot gaye jab unhone Karishma Ji se shadi ki thi.
maybe haseena is really doing this to get a reaction out of everyone. until this theory is completely debunked ill hold on to it so that I will be able to tolerate this version of haseena malik.
ps. I'll wait for the case to be over to talk about it.
p.p.s everyone looked so good in those gym attires!!! I want an under armour jacket now too.
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@bold - um well, you said everything that I was going to say for what I loved about this track 😆. Honestly though, from the introduction to the failed attempts to the actual solution, everything about the case flowed perfectly and felt logical. Also the topic was quite mature, and like you said they handled its nuances/subtleties just as maturely. A marriage (and any relation for that matter) may function without other things but it can never survive without respect and trust. And when 2 ppl feel forced to stay with each other there can only be resentment and no room for respect.
@red - Wow I never noticed the consistencies from previous tracks, but I guess that's why she's your maasumiyat and not mine 😆. She does feel angsty, for me she felt like that ever since urmila's memory loss, but I thought it came from her loss of innocence coupled with cheetah overdoing the 'nitthala-majnu' act. Now though, it could totally be something else that connects her absence and all her reactions towards men. Someone pls do telepathy to writers.
@blue - Ditto, ditto, ditto! I mentioned the same thing in my own 2 cents post (btw can we keep a consistent currency so they can add up? because now we have collected 4 cents/rupees on the criticism of this new character dynamic. zyaada collect hue toh inni paiso se writers ko ek passive-aggressive letter likhenge 😆 pardon my sense of humour). I absolutely can't make head or tail of HM's behaviour towards pushpaji, and the more I think of it the more annoyed I get at HM's annoyance. I want to shake her 'kya behen, kya dikkat kya hai aapko, tameez tehzeeb kahaan bhul aaye, itna to unki bahu aur senior KS ne bhi pareshaan kabhi nahi kiya, urmila ne maatari kya bula diya aap toh beizzati pe utar aayi'. Teasing about retirement might've even been okay if HM had done it sensitively within a limit, but why suddenly taunt about the counselling after 2 years of working with the same person? Yea I don't find it funny either, pointing out her whole career as a failure not only demeans the character but also undermines the show's essence of 4 strong policewomen.
@green - Hahahahahaha same behen same. I think that finally I can understand her and appreciate her, but then she does something so annoying that I'm back to square one. Nowadays I think I'd much much prefer the old HM over the current one. She might've been uptight, distant, a goody-two-shoe with world-reformer complex and what not, but I could still find respect for her because of the way she carried herself - composed, dignified and professional. I know that's 'surface-level' stuff, but it was charming and inspiring nevertheless. Urmila was the opposite, none of the surface level stuff but complete on the emotional understanding. The HM we see now is the worst amalgamation of the 2 - uptight, distant, and not bothered about carrying herself a certain way. She's become blunt and is taking MPT's love and respect towards her for granted. Is it because they forgave her so easily? (Your theory of her faking it for a reaction could be true, but I'd still disapprove, enough with the faking already).
The competition is stupid, the only thing KS gets uptight about is proving herself to maddam sir, otherwise her strictness about duty and discipline is actually right. Her bond with billu is the perfect example of how cool she is. Plus she behaves as she is, there are no 2 ways around her, no facade of formality, she openly expresses her love and admiration for her near and dear ones. On the other hand, HM needs to get out of the obsession to merge urmila into herself, like sainath said I don't think she actually has any of urmila's qualities 'hidden' within her, so this merger is just bringing out the worst of both worlds. I could go on and on about the character, but at the core I feel this might be a director and/or actor issue - no hard feelings for Gulki di (love her as a person) but it seems that she enjoyed urmila so much that she keeps trying to bring that fun-ness and carefree-ness back in HM. Even the way she walks sometimes these days, it looks like urmila's bindass style. I don't know if its her choice, the new director's call or the writers themselves, but whoever thought this merger is a good idea - its not, atleast not in the way its currently being shown. I don't want to see HM calling chatak chandni/maatari or saying random marathi phrases or making weird faces like urmila, I want to see HM be emotionally supportive, sensitive and expressive like urmila. Being less uptight doesn't mean being a clown in a police uniform.
cheetah is never going to get his lady love after that.