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Posted: 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Anee2

Back to THIS EPISODE - I think we felt very similarly about it and mentioned alot of the same things, but love the way you expanded on the details. Just a few things I thought while reading your analysis:

Ahh kareena! I didn't really have anything important to add to your post and I was feeling so lazy, but this point nagged my brain enough to force me to reply.

I don't think they are friends at all, let alone soul-sisters. They have never opened themselves up to each other - be it their true personalities, their personal lives, their problems, their grievances (esp about each other), their likes/dislikes, etc. whatever any 2 ppl in a close relationship share. And they don't have any intention of sharing any of that either. In fact, karishma and urmila (san-memory-loss) were better friends- karishma happily shared her love story, didn't hesitate to emotionally break down in front of urmila, and even sought solace in her embrace. She had promised a hug and gift to maddam sir, couldn't find a way to do it for 2 years, but finally managed to give it to urmila. Haseena, under the pretense of urmila, could shed the seniority/professionalism/colleague barrier, and actually try being karishma's friend. Although karishma instinctively opened up to urmila's friendliness, she could never really accept urmila as a friend, simply because of the facial resemblance with maddam sir.

Although its not friendship, kareena do have alot of respect, care and protectiveness for each other. I think if anyone has aptly described their bond so far, its billu - that of Ram and Bharat. Though, because of karishma's angry nature, I think Lord Ram and Lakshman suits better. The love and appreciation is there, but the maryada/boundary and one-sided idolization + obeisance is also there. Also, the only time Ram openly showed his worry about Lakshman was when Lakshman was attacked and made unconscious in the war, however Lakshman openly stood up for Ram many times - I feel like we can draw a parallel of that with haseena and karishma. Komal brought up Krishna/Arjun in another topic and that's a very good one, but personally I don't think kareena fit that bond, at least yet. Krishna and Arjun, besides mentor-mentee, were also very good friends. They spoke their mind to each other without hesitation or worry, and both were more open with each other than they were with anyone else. Karishma and haseena aren't at that comfort level yet, but maybe now, after urmila's stint, they just might get there. I feel that Krishna/Arjun would be the ideal ultimate stage of the kareena bond - friendship amongst an inevitable hierarchy, souls connected at the deepest level. (That's the kareena bond I ship, in my dreams smiley36)

The problem with everything I said in the last paragraph is that writers have left untied ends at crucial points. The only way kareena's bond can reasonably progress from forced colleagues to Ram/Lakshman to Krishna/Arjun is if each of their misunderstandings and confrontations wrapped up completely, not only on a positive note but also with some introspection. The makers jumping right over all these important conversations, assuming actions speak louder than words, and suddenly giving them overly expressive dialogues (love you maddam sir, I can't bear the thought of losing you karishma singh) - it obviously comes off as forceful and hard to digest. Despite all these issues, there are kareena shippers because they see so much potential in this bond if it was handled correctly. Alot of them use their imagination to fill in the writers' glaring gaps.


I agree with everything you said here. People ship Kareena because they see so much potential in them that they have created their own imaginations on how they should be. The sudden love is hard to digest. Two people who couldn't stand each other are now suddenly into I love you zone. I don't say it's not possible but can we have proper growth please.

But comparison with Ram-Bharat was beautiful. BTW, do you mind telling me when did Billu say this? I can't recall it at all 😭

I think like you said, Ram-Lakshman fits more here. Even the character traits would match 🤣

Coming to Arjun-Krishna, they were really good friends but always I felt Arjun was a follower as well. He looked upto him and followed whatever was said without any questioning. The only time he questioned Krishna was at the start of the war when Krishna had to give Geeta gyan to him. But not to deny, they were extremely good friends and Arjun could confide in Krishna and leave all his worries to him.

And I hope one day we can call Kareena as another Arjun-Krishna, one of the purest friendship bond

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Posted: 3 years ago

Someone ( I don't remember who , sorry) posted about honeytrapping a couple of days back....even mpt members have used this trick to get to the criminal in some cases like the Aditya one , amar premi track , Indra danush track but it didn't sit well with me during anuseena.... because in all the other situations the MPT people know and have some shred of proof that the suspect might be the criminal

( still not justified to do such a thing) but Anubhav knew Haseena was honest , he could've approached her directly ( It could have backfired like indradhanush track where santu told the truth without a shred of proof) when it came to mahipal singh , all the intelligence department had was assumptions , and how is honeytrapping Haseena going to help.... Anubhav should've honeytrapped Mahipal's wife instead ( oml 🤣🤣🤣)

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Posted: 3 years ago

i am glad hm is back..well i dont know if its possible or not but can i see a little purani karishma..with her new character growth being intact..I miss her bhaukal

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Posted: 3 years ago

My thoughts on Tuesday's episode;


FINALLY!

First scene was amazing....full on grey Haseena Mallik vibes! Let's have more of that....she revealed the truth , ok...loved mpt members reaction when ks said that hm is indeed hm herself....the things that they said to "urmila" during that scene should've been said to HM instead , I'll be back on that in a minute....loved the way HM recreated her video message ( she left out the part about Meera 😟)....loved how last time they couldn't hug her but this time we got 2 hugs 🙂....during the scene in ep 394 HM was smiling in that scene and we the audience were in tears but when she recreated that moment she was overwhelmed by her emotions and was crying and I had a smile from ear to ear seeing that she's finally back....and her expression when she said "ab yakin hua ki hum hi hai aapka madam sir" was sooooo adorable , and Billu with his stupor , I don't have any comments for this Idk why , loved that nickname scene ....now to the parts I think that could've been done better ;

For three months this person has been showing signs that she's the real HM and all it took was a speech from her to make you realise that she's the real HM? Idk why but I felt uneasy about how easily they believed that she's the real HM


Anubhav's personality rubbed off on HM a bit; gaslighting , she didn't reveal the real reason behind her deception ; she and bakshi sir were suspicious of them , instead she equated her pain with their pain and they were ok with it ( I know that HM was also hurt but the pain of MPT members were 10x more raw and needed to be addressed than HMs pain) ....I think this is the euphoria phase where people compartmentalize these sort of stuff to accomodate the life changing ( in a good way) stuff happens....if KS could create such ruckus during janakipuram thana track ( yes I'll never let that one go) , she and the others will definitely be angry on HM....let the euphoria die out and the anger seep in gradually.... because this is one confrontation that I don't want HM to escape...the thing that the said to Urmi prior to the scene should've been said after they learnt the truth


She apologized to them 🙂 but come on Chita you hated being called chinke and now when you know it's your old boss you're just going to brush it off? That just makes it worse...I know you can't/ won't say anything to your boss in front of everyone but atleast you could have expressed some discomfort like how Billu did when he was called as takleya...


Wish ammi got a scene as well....she deserves a apology as well...


We want a scene where HM returns the money....and what happened to the autorickshaw which HM borrowed on the day Anubhav died? Was it ever returned to the rightful owner? So many loose ends...


The way HM told KS about the old cases to make ks realise the truth....she messed up with the Rani one....(Qayamat truth was acknowledged indirectly like how my wishes were fulfilled indirectly) that identity theft was in 2020 and Rani stabbing KS happened in 2021...Rani was the culprit in both of those cases....I can atleast chalk it up as HM messing up at the heat of the moment....


The makers streched this track so much that it diluted audiences' expectations and at a certain point they just wanted HM back....and the creatives did just that plus added a few cinematic scenes to make it look grand so that they can escape from making Haseena face all of MPT members' questions about her deception , and the worst part is that it worked and everyone enjoyed the episode

( even I did but this crucial confrontation scene was missing which made me annoyed)

Edited by Sainath-394-cid - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago

Bulbul's beizzati 🤣🤣🤣🤣 the way he cried 😂😂😂😂😂😂

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Posted: 3 years ago

I think this whole thing could've been done better.... urmila is shocked with her sudden farewell....as a goodbye speech she inadvertently recreates the video message scene of ep 394 in her mumbaikan language , everyone's transfixed at their spot , frozen as the realisation dawns on to them that Urmi is maddam sir urmi leaves when she sees that no one is moving ( because why wouldn't she?) By the time mpt members get out of thier trance urmi has already left, they try to track her phone....

Urmi visits HM's house and takes her uniform as a final souvenir....she is depressed that she has to leave ( in this AU she feels that she's not worthy of being in HM's shoes that's why she doesn't protest when she's asked to leave) and goes to a bar....bulbul pandey follows her and takes advantage of her drunken stupor and turn her against mpt team....ks calls right at that moment...urmi hangs up.....hires a bunch of goons ks reaches that fight sequence place , this time around she pleads with urmi to remember her past....urmi doesn't listen....goons beat ks up....urmi remembers that she is HM....fight scene happens , heartwarming mpt reunion + sincere aplolgies + returning the money + ammi apology scene....


Is this one any good?

Edited by Sainath-394-cid - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago

Yesterday's episode;

Loved how Chita's hopes and dreams crashed and burned around him as he was hassling Santu's dad on the phone 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Posted: 3 years ago

Santu confused me yesterday "woh aisa hi hai" hain? I know Chita can be a little over the top sometimes but the excuses santu uses to escape from awkward situations are frankly weird...

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Posted: 3 years ago

Chita's devdas imagination was so good 🤣 and Billu rocked in yesterday's episode....

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Posted: 3 years ago

I knew that they weren't going to forget urmila that soon....HM talking about HM and urmila felt like Gulki ma'am was talking about her characters in interviews....simillar to how she mentioned in chandramukhi Chautala track related interview about CC 's swag and a couple of episodes later HM said the same dialogue...

I really don't like Santu's dad , he creates problems everytime he's in the show...

Loved how Chita pleaded with KS yesterday....and since when did KS became a fan of shayaris?

Santu's dad is a fan of Rashid Iqbal? Now for the rest of this track he's going to do chamchagiri to his "hero" and impose on MPT members ( especially santu) that his idol is truthful and cannot be a credit stealer and and ask HM to change her mind isn't he?

Is the coma guy actually telling the truth?....I get that Rashid might've stolen the love letter poem to have Iqbal's crush for himself but this guy here is claiming that he stole his entire life's work ( he said that Rashid stole his diary as well , was that such a big@$$ diary to accommodate 30 years worth of poems? ) Or he might just be salty that he didn't have the guts to propose to his one sided lover and his friend did and trying to frame him?


Thank god tv shows acknowledged that when a person wakes up from a coma , they won't be physically fit for a while ( that guy in the episode won't even able to walk irl without proper treatment , but atleast that felt realistic to some extent) otherwise moves and tv shows makes the characters do running and fighting minutes after waking up from a long term coma...


So for 30 years who has been paying this guy's hospital bills? Is he that loaded with cash to stay in a hospital indefinitely?


The precap; 🤦 why? Just why? We got HM back just 1 episode ago and it's ks vs hm already? That soon? Even though it felt subdued and was not like the initial episodes where Karishma would throw temper tantrums ( atleast some character development has been retained) we want cases where these two solve it without any difference of opinions...


I really couldn't care less for this case....just waiting for the 90's look sequence

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