Originally posted by: rinki_99
In these three months, I think everyone had their own visualizations on how things should be. But yesterday, I just forgot everything and gave writers a chance to writers to show us their story.
same behen.
All the actors yesterday nailed their performance. They were so brilliant that their smile made me smile and their tears left me emotional. Ah I didn't cry but it was heart-touching. I've always said it and will again say it MS has got an amazing cast. I don't find any of them lacking anywhere. These people deserve all the appreciation they get and even more.
completely agree with you. the cast is perfect and they deserve all the recognition they get and even more. no matter how utterly ridiculous the script can be at times, they give it their all. yesterday was just another display of their powerhouse of talent.
Once again crew did a fantastic job. Direction, execution, screenplay, cinematography, dialogues, actions everything was amazing.
yep yep.
I loved how she overpowered all those men single-handedly. She is her own prince charming who protects her and everyone around. Those who says this show focuses on fake feminism then yesterday's sequence was a slap to them.
who are these people screaming fake feminism? batao zara. you are absolutely right. the girl thrashed them all single-handedly to the point where they needed sticks to tame her. Karishma Singh is a force to be reckoned with. mess with her or her family and she would make your life hell.
There are people I've seen on YouTube, Instagram and even wattpad thinking this show supports fake feminism and the female characters are unnecessarily glorified. I never got when did this exactly happen. I might agree that male characters don't get as much as screen space or character development like female characters but that doesn't mean supporting fake feminism.
Her fakshback was quick summary of her entire journey with Karishma. She remembered all their golden moments. She finally remembered who she is and who is the girl infront of her fighting alone with these goons
the scene on its own was well executed. I still remain of the opinion that the whole of MPT should have been there. her memories should have involved all of them. because who she is as madam sir and haseena malik stems from these 6 people she admitted to seeing as family.
Agreed! Even I wanted her memories to include entire MPT. She is Maddam Sir to all of them. Her identity Maddam Sir is because of MPT, including Iqbal or Badnaam because except them no one addresses her as same. She is Haseena Mallik, Haseena or Miss Mallik to the world. But then how would CVS put extra spotlight on Kareena friendship. Even if not so much, at least one scenes with everyone would have been enough.
I remember when MPT was about to shutdown during JPT track, she remembered memories with everyone. Of course, more with Karishma but at least others were included.
These days I sometimes feel to highlight Kareena, other bonds are being ignored by makers. Not that I've problem with Kareena but I think balance is required because they promised us a story of four independent females.
Finally she found peace. Yes few things were inaccurate. Facts were distorted. Karishma didn't save her from bomb blast. Nor did she save Haseena and took knife to herself during impersonation of Haseena by Rani. It was during Qayamat track. I guess makers wanted to put extra spotlight on their bond.
perhaps, her memories were still a little all over the place as they had just returned. the whole scene was to put the spotlight on their bond.
I remember Haseena threw Karishma out of car because she knew she is going to die. But was it only for Karishma? The Haseena Mallik I know would have done it for anyone, even if it was a random stranger. I don't say anything is wrong here but it was unnecessary highlighting of their relationship. Because I firmly believe anyone in her place would have got same same treatment.
completely agree. that is why I said that part wasn't needed. haseena would have done that regardless of who was in that driver's seat. even Mira who was the one who shot her would have gotten the same treatment for that matter. that's just who she is as a person.
@Blue: Would it matter even if Mira fell of? She was a robot 🤣 but knowing Haseena she could have done that. She was way too attached with Mira. And not to forget. CVS did give her a dignified ending.
But yes Haseena being vocal about it came little shocking to me. She is not a person of words when it comes to her personal emotions. This shows she has started being little vulnerable towards Karishma and MPT. Might be yesterday, at that moment, she was not her SHO.
yep yep. yesterday she was haseena malik, SHO being the secondary title that comes along with it.
This is what I like about you. We both have different stans. I'm hardcover Haseena fan. But still you have respectful towards different opinion. And I think these different perspectives make this forum interesting.
we may have different stans (yours being haseena and mine being my masumiyat) but respect for each other's opinions is essential for any healthy discussion and I am glad this is something ubiquitously present in our forum. so right back at ya bro!!
That's right! Else visit any forum with multiple famdoms and you will see how healthy the discussions. Every other post will have a DT note in it. But sometimes it fun reading those 😆 But coming to Santu, is there anyone who doesn't like her? You just cannot stop yourself from falling for her. And she is the character who has the most upward character development graph.
Now even I'm not a Kareena shipper. By not being a Kareena shipper, I mean I still don't believe they are friends yet.
same but my reasons are slightly different. the first is like you said, I don't believe that they are friends. The second is that they are still formal with each other. three, the forced bff narrative doesn't sit well with me. four, they still have a long way to go in terms of becoming comfortable being themselves in front of each other. they have this intrinsic need to live up to each other's expectations - haseena the mentor and Karishma the student- that makes the dynamics more of senior junior.
which is kind of why i liked cheetosh as friends (before cheetah's recent forced nonsense). they had this mutual understanding and didnt let the need to live up to expectations. they were able to be themselves in front of each other. they've even comforted each other on various occasions. they are the only other main friendship this show has and thus the comparison.
Your points completely have my support. Their bond is beautiful but they are still not friends. They can be senior-junior or mentor-mentee. They are people who trust each other blindly but are not comfortable to confide in each other. I kinda found their relationship was good and was growing slowly initially. With every case, they were trying to know each other was were getting comfortable slowly. The growth was pretty natural. Nothing seemed forced. But after JPT track, they turned overly-sweet. Sometimes I think is it because of fans shipping them that writers started with their forced narrative.
Their bond is really beautiful. You rarely would find such relationship between two women on ITV where both adore each other so much.
agreed. nowadays is just two women fighting for a guy.
That too sisters 🤣 Every show has same concept.
For me Kareena are more like Lord Krishna and Arjun. Karishma looks upto Haseena as her guide. And Haseena is someone who knows how capable Karishma is and sees her as her most trustworthy subordinate. She is someone who she can rely on to win the battle alone like Krishna believed on Arjun's capabilities.
yep, and this is why I said that their dynamic is more of senior-junior or mentor-mentee. also, I loved this comparison to the Mahabharat mythology.
Oh Mahabharat has always been my favorite. It's so deep that even I read it multiple times, every time I find something new. All the characters there have so much to explore
But friends? Might be they are progressing towards it but still they are long way to go. They need to let their guards down to be each other’s friends. Honestly for now I can't name their relationship. I don't know what exactly to name it but whatever they have between them is beautiful.
it comes down to the vulnerability thing we've discussed before. vulnerability nurtures relationships and until they can let their guard down they won't reach the status of friends. other than that, they need to have proper conversations where they are open and honest. instead of constantly highlighting what they see each other as they need to address the why between them. what would the indicator of that be? when they start calling each other by their first names.
They need to have a conversation with each other where they would be talking about themselves. Sharing their struggles, their feelings, their dreams with each other. And not include their duty. It's good to be committed towards your duty but it's equally important to have a balanced life. These characters can never see beyond their duty. And this never lets them have their guard down. At least Karishma has shown some improvement by letting Haseena know why she couldn't become an IPS or how difficult her childhood has been. She has discussed with Haseena how no one wanted a girl to be a cop or how her husband fought against the world for her. But Haseena never. It was only once when she has let MPT know how as a kid she was in her school. And yes few times with Pushpa Ji!
I might be the minority here but if we talk about relationships Pushpaji's bond with both Haseena and Karishma is my favorite. I like that much more than any other relationships.
@ underline: yeh rishta kya khelata hain. 🤡
Even after three generations, it's not clear yrkkh 🤣
Friends or not, I don't know but they are important to each other. So seeing her in danger triggered her memories. For me it was fair enough.
i wont deny that they are important to one another. that part I can completely agree with you even if I don't understand why.
I wonder if they themselves know this
Cheetah's word made my heart break for them. They were not ready to build any more hopes just for it to shattered again. So they wanted Urmi to go forever so that this time they could move on forever.
oh dang, how did I miss this? yep, his words were lowkey my trigger point. like, he is right. stop playing with their emotions. they've had enough.
What a beautiful contrast writers did set up here. Both the times they heard the message, they teared up. Last time it was tears of grief and helplessness. But this time it was tears of hope and happiness. Finally things were falling in place. Last time when they ran to embrace her, she disappeared leaving them shattered. But this time when they ran to embrace her, she didn't do anywhere. In fact, they found themselves wrapped up in her arms, finally finding their solace.
I somehow found entire team being wrapped up in Haseena's arms as symbolic. To me it looked like a promise to never let her team shatter again. Might be I'm thinking too much so just ignore me on this 
nope, i agree with you here- all of this.
Finally they all were happy. It looked like a fairytale where they all had happy ending.
lmao a literal fairytale ending with no consequences whatsoever.
I've never been into fairytales even as a kid 🤣
But I would wait to see if this vulnerability was just a moment or this brings some change. For now I don’t want to get false hopes of seeing a Haseena who will one day seek comfort from MPT.
me too. I want them to keep with this momentum because it wouldn't make sense for her to go back into her shell once the dust settles. they've reached where the dynamics should no longer just be a colleague who is family in the station. then again, no one was pissed at her so... remember I said that if they aren't upset at this breach of trust, they cannot be considered family in a true sense. yeah, I start to believe it.
I somewhere knew this was going to happen. My expectations were always low. I remember I had once mentioned in this forum that none of the apology track has been well executed in this show and this track was no exception.
i knew it too from what anee mentioned in her previous post. my expectations went from a full-fledged 10 episodes angst track to a simple confrontation of 5 minutes. I didn't think id have to lower it even further. it's not even the expectations really. it's about the characters and their relationships coming off her weak and fragile. it reminded me so much of Lizzie from legacies. all of them are incapable of being angry at their loved ones no matter what BS they pull.
Anubhav leaving Haseena altar was shown to be his helplessness (before anyone comes to argue on this, I would like to state I completely agree Anubhav's actions are perceived by everyone differently. I know majority of fandom feels Anubhav was completely right and I didn't intend to hurt anyone here because whenever a character in this show has made mistakes, they had their own reasons. I'm just starting few instances), JPT track, Qayamat track, Haseena giving credits to Meera for Karishma's work, Haseena pointing gun at Karishma or many other such instances. Either they were never acknowledged or all characters had to do was say sorry and then everything gets sorted.
thinking about all of this makes me want to rip my hair out. this is what I mean by the dynamics coming off her superficial. they need to have these conversations. can we start an episode by episode discussion thread for the old ones?
Yeah please let's do it. Old is gold and I still love those episodes. I don't think they will ever have any conversation on any of those topics ever again.
It really came to me as shock because forget about confrontation, no one even bothered to know what happened during these three months. They weren’t curious either.
don't even get me started bro. I was just speechless.
If I was them, I could have went mad with all the unanswered questions I would have in my mind and I'd want them to be answered. Neither did they ask nor did Haseena explain. They had the right to truth that she never told them.
oh she did explain. of course, dearest madam malik left off the important details and the parts they should be aware of. as much as haseena should be the one going forward to tell them the whole, complete and truest of truth, MPT should have also questioned her. i am not going to get into the specific or else this will turn into a rant/hate post.
🤣🤣🤣
It's Haseena Mallik and her dearest team. Sometimes I think how all these weird people come together.
This is why I mentioned Kareena are not friends yet. They still have formal boundaries that they will take long to cross. Haseena didn't bother to tell them anything because she is the SHO who doesn't need to give any explanation.
I've said it before. SHO haseena malik may not owe them an explanation and neither is she answerable to them but haseena i. haseena owes this to them after everything they've done.
Specifically when we already know Haseena and SHO Haseena Mallik are two different people. So yes there might have been no need to explain to her team but she did owe an explanation who treats her as a daughter, to the woman who considers her a a friend, a girl and a man who looks upto her as a sister and also to Billu who has always stood by her.
And Karishma could never ask because she didn't want to question her. If they were friends Karishma would have rightfully questioned Haseena and even she didn't, Haseena would have come front to give her explanations. She would have gone to her and explained her everything. Apologized or justified but she would have said why.
agreed.
Or perhaps both the parties was afraid of truth. People do this. Neither are ready to reveal the truth nor listen to the harsh reality because that truth would destroy everything. Might their minds already knew the truth would bring destruction for the trust they had and hence they just shrugged it of like it never happened.
unhealthy coping mechanisms and roots of relationships that turn out toxic later but yes. understand where you are coming from.
