BALH 2 EDT #21 - Page 116

Life and relationships in it are multifaceted, today we see a quiet maturity that has replaced drunken tears, tomorrow we will see confrontation, and the day after tomorrow awareness

Originally posted by: tirchinazar

Develop that maturity, my friend. It’s important … Even silences speak louder than words ..

CVs are inspired by this song and showing it’s visual interpretation

Chup tum raho chup hum rahe

Khamoshi ko khamoshi se

Zindagi ko zindagi se baat karne do

Basic communication is needed to reach that level and instances where you just observe and create a mental picture about your partner, that is where you start understanding him/ her better.

Here nothing has happened, they just got married, their relationship has been put to test time and again, goo that they have overcome all the hurdles, but they did not have one proper interaction which would help them know each other better, ok if not verbal interaction at least they come to know about some of the MU from some other friend, like Adi helping Ram to see why Priya could have returned the 5% and hence he understands her better and needs no words…

just taking a shortcut and asking the audience to assume things, they will just conclude 😡

Originally posted by: Balh2fan

As I said in my earlier post, she is being mature and has a magnanimous heart, by not asking for an explanation - but does that mean the other person conveniently takes it as a license to absolve himself. Does he not feel the itch to come out clean and clear… it is not Priya, it is Ram that is bothering me here.

I agree that in any real relationship after seeing your loved one go through such pain (Ps drunken speech) the guy should do (and say) everything to bury all those doubts.

Here .. going by my understanding of the characters..(self acclaimed psychologist ... certified by tirchi :) ).... Ram doesn't like difficult conversations.. he did apologize for hiding the fact, he was asked whether he loves V which he denied wholeheartedly and tried to show by his actions that he wants only P in his life. I don't think he has still realised that he did any wrong... He doesn't know all V kaands.

Actually P surprised me. She is stronger and difficult conversations don't trouble her. She has been shown so forthright before (when she asked R bout the lie, bout him leaving her at the wedding etc). With the trust issues she had... I am finding it very difficult that she is willing to trust him without any questions asked.

But whatever rocks their boat. I am making peace with Ps evolution.

Originally posted by: Real_Me

A real life incident happened in the last decade in an upper middle class family known to me,

Arranged marriage between couple in their 20s (both working). Kid born 9 months after marriage, couple separated when the kid was 9 months old, total 18 months of marriage with absolutely no understanding at all, IMO the early pregnancy was one of the major reason for them not to have the time to build the marriage, but it does happen still in India,

True! And the pressure on young couples to conceive is also very real. It may not be in-your-face as before, but it's definitely there (as I can see happening to more than one young couple in my family). There's so much emotional blackmailing, comparison, scare mongering (your body clock's ticking)😔.

I was once asked to speak to a young couple in my family on the sly to find out why they weren't ''going ahead". I had to give the person a proper telling off and also asked them to butt out of the couple's business (as politely as possible, since they were much older 😔)

Originally posted by: tirchinazar

This is far from reality

One thing that bothers me is the discussion about Consummation leading to Pregnancy. Are we not living in the 21st century?

I'm sorry for disagreeing but who discusses consummation? That's just something that happens in the moment. There will be situations where the couple will understand. You don't need words.

When it comes to pregnancy, you don't need a conversation usually you can tell if ready for such a step. That is when it wasn't lead by pressure.

Originally posted by: bhubhnis

I agree that in any real relationship after seeing your loved one go through such pain (Ps drunken speech) the guy should do (and say) everything to bury all those doubts.

Here .. going by my understanding of the characters..(self acclaimed psychologist ... certified by tirchi :) ).... Ram doesn't like difficult conversations.. he did apologize for hiding the fact, he was asked whether he loves V which he denied wholeheartedly and tried to show by his actions that he wants only P in his life. I don't think he has still realised that he did any wrong... He doesn't know all V kaands.

Actually P surprised me. She is stronger and difficult conversations don't trouble her. She has been shown so forthright before (when she asked R bout the lie, bout him leaving her at the wedding etc). With the trust issues she had... I am finding it very difficult that she is willing to trust him without any questions asked.

But whatever rocks their boat. I am making peace with Ps evolution.

@bold: you have got the nail right at the center… he is not good at difficult conversations and avoids it until pushed to that level… since Pri is taking it easy he also does not want to get into it…

As you said - not sure how Pri can trust him without getting him to answer her questions.

Originally posted by: Balh2fan

As I said in my earlier post, she is being mature and has a magnanimous heart, by not asking for an explanation - but does that mean the other person conveniently takes it as a license to absolve himself. Does he not feel the itch to come out clean and clear… it is not Priya, it is Ram that is bothering me here.

Exactly!! I am bothered by
1) His continued insensitivity to her inner demons.

2) His being oblivious to the impact of his actions and “allowing” others’ actions.

3) Also there is somewhere the arrogance of innocence - the belief that my intentions are pure so how can u cast aspersions & I dont really need to explain.
4) Now there is also the newly acquired confidence that P likes him so he can work off that rather than dispel her demons.

Originally posted by: oye_nakhrewaali

M still not over the sakshat bhagwaan ne banayj hai jodi and shiv-parvati ka joda🤣 Akki alag hi trip mein hota hai😅 Soods ki wiring mein ghana locha hai😅

I know... He loves Shivi so much that he is scared of her finding those pics and going against everything Pridi taught him to hide the fact from her ... And then.. willing to leave her at drop of a hat for Pridi!!!

Originally posted by: Balh2fan

As I said in my earlier post, she is being mature and has a magnanimous heart, by not asking for an explanation - but does that mean the other person conveniently takes it as a license to absolve himself. Does he not feel the itch to come out clean and clear… it is not Priya, it is Ram that is bothering me here.

I get what your saying.

See what ram is doing is not wrong in his view bcz till priya no one has ever asked him to be accountable for his actions or decisions, not even nandini. Everyone has just has always accepted everything he does. And that is the flaw in his upbringing.

Remember shivina's dialogue in the pilot. KM me vahi hota hai jo ram bhai chahte hai. Why do you think nandini manipulated ram so much, bcz she knows ram needs to think it's his decision for him to do anything.

There was one person ram used to listen that was vedika but now he doesn't listen to her anymore. But still vedika also has never hold ram accountable to her either.

Ram has never learned been answerable to anyone in his life. Priya is the first person who he saw is different than how he has seen other as. He is slowly learning but the thing is when all your life Everyone has just accepted your every actions as they are set in stone your first instinct is not explaining yourself to anyone.

Originally posted by: bhubhnis

I agree that in any real relationship after seeing your loved one go through such pain (Ps drunken speech) the guy should do (and say) everything to bury all those doubts.

Here .. going by my understanding of the characters..(self acclaimed psychologist ... certified by tirchi :) ).... Ram doesn't like difficult conversations.. he did apologize for hiding the fact, he was asked whether he loves V which he denied wholeheartedly and tried to show by his actions that he wants only P in his life. I don't think he has still realised that he did any wrong... He doesn't know all V kaands.

Actually P surprised me. She is stronger and difficult conversations don't trouble her. She has been shown so forthright before (when she asked R bout the lie, bout him leaving her at the wedding etc). With the trust issues she had... I am finding it very difficult that she is willing to trust him without any questions asked.

But whatever rocks their boat. I am making peace with Ps evolution.

Moreover just couple of days back she was shown to go back to the shell after reading the messages on laptop. She got reminded of the no love deal and kept questioning Ram’s behaviour in her head, where did all those vanish when she got to know about the actual ex? Is it because the ex being V and she has been seeing Ram’s interaction with V changing over the course of their marriage? If so, at least show us a series of FBs from Pri’s pov sothat we get in sync with her thought process.