why is Aryan so attached to arvind ?

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Posted: 3 years ago
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it looks so ott how Aryan gets traumatized whenever arvind matter comes up, even arpi don't feel that way.. he was after all his brother-in-law only.. must've been married for a few years only as arpi don't have a child too, yet Aryan gets so hysteric about his deathđŸ€”..

n why Aryan holds akt responsible for his death when arpi or narmada or imlie don't feel that wayđŸ€”.. are narmada n arpi hiding something from Aryan 😒

the way arvind's death has been hyped there seems to be more to it 🧐.. may be he isn't dead, in captivity somewhere which akt knows as a reporterđŸ€” or will return as a big villain who wanted to own rathore fortune by killing Aryan 😈 but akt will turn to be innocent then..

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Posted: 3 years ago
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It's true that we need more details on this matter.

Uptill now it's been kept open ended because cvs wanted it to remain a choice for them. They have the steering wheel in their hands and can turn according to trps, or anything. But mostly their whim. I don't think they give an eff what we audience thinkđŸ€Ș



Now coming to your question.

Time doesn't determine attachment as much as we deem it to. There are other factors. If we look at that way. Imlie's attachment to Ts doesn't make sense. It looks completely illogical. But we interpret it mostly as psychological.

We don't know at what age Aryan lost his father. But Arvind as indicated by Aryan, had fill that void. For Aryan, that person became a father figure, someone he started to associate emotionally. Hence it became a trauma for him💔

Edited by Shabia1 - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
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Narmada said it in some episode that after her husband died, they were a bit lost and Arvind stepped in as her son. So he wasn't just a brother-in-law but also played the father figure role as well as a brother role to Aryan. In that sense, it was a double/triple loss for him. Plus, the way he died was so traumatic -- if he had died a normal way, say a heart attack or something like an accident, one would get over it after a certain period of time. Here, he was killed in a painful way in front of their eyes and they were unable to help him. They had to watch him die. That would be traumatic for anyone.

Have written about this earlier but Aryan is suffering from the trauma of prolonged grief. Aryan has not been able to let go of the loss and it has shaped everything about him. He had to pick up the pieces of the family, the business after Arvind's death and he wasn't in a position to grieve. With so many people depending on him, he chose to become a stone. Just because you don't cry publicly, does not mean that you don't cry inwards. If you sit too long with grief, it can grab a hold of your soul and corrupt it.

Plus, when something feels unfair, it sticks longer in your mind. From Aryan's perspective, Aditya's slanted reporting made a minor problem into a major one and then a disaster struck. It would be one thing if Aditya had acknowledged his role but it looks like he just moved on and never really looked back. Aditya claims it is all truth but as anyone with half a brain knows that there is power of the words and every news has a slant. How you choose to pursue a story, how you frame your questions does have the power to hype a small problem into a fire. -- we see it all the time with news channels these days as they run behind TRP.

Since Aditya is self-righteous, that is more of a double eged sword for Aryan. Only when someone acknowledges the wrong, can the person move on. That is why, we have justice system -- so the living may move on after an incident has occured.

Edited by mango.falooda - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
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The reason so many of us are quick to brush aside Aryan’s trauma as OTT is because we think of Arvind only as Aryan's brother-in-law and by default equate that to a distant relationship, one not of that much importance, merely because of the label.


But feelings, emotions and trauma don’t work with labels or time duration and that's what we've seen of the limited Aryan-Arvind moments that we saw in the show. Arvind, to Aryan, was not just Arpita's husband but also his friend, mentor, and father figure in the absence of his own father. And if I'm not mistaken, Narmada had said that Arvind was Arpita's childhood friend so they did know each other for much longer. Some people obsess more about their friends than they do about family and we don't find that OTT because we know that for a lot of people, friends understand them better than family. Here, just because of the brother-in-law label, we immediately think of the relationship as unimportant – which, for Aryan, was not case.


As to why does Aryan holds AKT responsible while Narmada and Arpita don't – there's no secret or backstory to it, just the way they are as people. Arpita and Narmada come across as soft and forgiving people, who don't dwell too much on something – this is evident from their treatment of Ts, even when AKT has constantly accused Aryan of being Imlie’s boyfriend, the Rathore ladies don't let that affect or annoy them.


Aryan, on the other hand, stresses a lot on responsibility and accountability. During the weather track, the collage of AKT's article clippings and Aryan’s explanation of that indicated that AKT wrote inflammatory articles without getting the facts right, which led to Arvind's death. Just because AKT didn’t actually murder Arvind doesn’t mean it absolves him completely. And given Aryan has seen what Arvind's death did to their family, he took it upon himself to avenge Arvind's death, along with all the other responsibilities that he had to pick up as part of suddenly growing up.


And Arvind was burned to death in that car right before their eyes so there's no way to bring him back alive for the makers.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: -JaZ-

it looks so ott how Aryan gets traumatized whenever arvind matter comes up, even arpi don't feel that way.. he was after all his brother-in-law only.. must've been married for a few years only as arpi don't have a child too, yet Aryan gets so hysteric about his deathđŸ€”..

n why Aryan holds akt responsible for his death when arpi or narmada or imlie don't feel that wayđŸ€”.. are narmada n arpi hiding something from Aryan 😒

the way arvind's death has been hyped there seems to be more to it 🧐.. may be he isn't dead, in captivity somewhere which akt knows as a reporterđŸ€” or will return as a big villain who wanted to own rathore fortune by killing Aryan 😈 but akt will turn to be innocent then..


Sorry, but I found what you wrote here very disturbing. Who are we to quantify what relations should matter how much and too whom? And how long a deep a marriage would be based on the existence/nonexistence of a child? Aryan lost his dad at a young age. Arvind was like a father figure to him even if the age difference was probably not as much. Aryan seems to form relationships deeply and for life. He values them. And for him to loose someone /anyone he deeply cared for is a loss. He also has a survivors guilt since, he was supposed to be in the factory that day instead of Arvind. Arvind was acting chairman in place of Aryan for Rathore industry at teh time because he was fresh out of university and wanting to still take his time before taking over. So that in his mind makes him partially responsible for Arvind's death.


Aditya's half baked journalism incited an already angry crowd into lynching and then arsoning Arvind to death. But since, such things cannot be proven in court of law, AKT can never be directly held responsible by anyone for Arvind's death. thats where Aryan's frustration stems from.


Imlie has no say in it because she was not in picture then and has made zero effort to understand anything other than her babusahib being a mahan atama.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Its subjective how one handles a loss and how much it affects ..

We could have seen more suicidal cases among males for a personal loss than females..

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Another point in this relationship is Aryan also has survivor's guilt in this situation.

It was his job and Arvind was filling in that day so that Aryan can be irresponsible Young Adult for some more time.

He also saw him burn alive with his own eyes, helpless and struggling locked inside the car

Even if i had no relationship with the person, the scene alone would traumatize me.


Obviously the extent of involvement of AKT is a bit shady, and needs to be dug up, but regardless of AKT having a hand in death of jiju, Aryan's relationship with jiju and the trauma are justified.

Edited by SundariP - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: -JaZ-

it looks so ott how Aryan gets traumatized whenever arvind matter comes up, even arpi don't feel that way.. he was after all his brother-in-law only.. must've been married for a few years only as arpi don't have a child too, yet Aryan gets so hysteric about his deathđŸ€”..

n why Aryan holds akt responsible for his death when arpi or narmada or imlie don't feel that wayđŸ€”.. are narmada n arpi hiding something from Aryan 😒

the way arvind's death has been hyped there seems to be more to it 🧐.. may be he isn't dead, in captivity somewhere which akt knows as a reporterđŸ€” or will return as a big villain who wanted to own rathore fortune by killing Aryan 😈 but akt will turn to be innocent then..


Firstly loss is handled in different ways. Here Aryan was like a young goofy kid till Arvind was alive with no care for responsibilities. Arvind's death made him grow up and take responsibility over night.


Secondly, Aryan saw his BIL burn with his own eyes while he could do nothing. Seeing a loved one die and feeling utterly helpless is traumatising to another level.


Thirdly, Aryan has survivors guilt because it was supposed to be him who was supposed to go to the factory but he wanted to chill so his BIL went instead. Aryan feels indirectly responsible. He feels it should have been him who died not his BIL.


Fourthly, him and his BIL were extremely close. Arvind was the only other male member so all the boy talk and activities they did together. Arvind was also like father to him because he was the one who stepped up when Aru's dad passed away.


Lastly, you cannot measur trauma and grief different people handle it in different ways. Arpita too had trauma from fire. She used to panic at the mere sight of a flame (no matter how small) till the makers of course made a joke of mental health to glorify Imlie. Anyways I won't get into that again.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Also the fact that Aryan had to become the stronger one among the three Rathores just so that Narmada & Arpita could heal and both the women had eo as well as Aryan to deal with the whole situation but Aryan had none to confide in has played a major part in him not being able to overcome the trauma. He badly needs someone to talk to & share his pain with. He tried it with Imlie thinking that she would listen to him but sadly she chose to defend Aditya that day making Aryan go back into his shell. I really don't know how the upcoming accident gonna change Imlie's perspective towards him. Let's see what happens.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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tagging a few for their thoughts

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